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    Pretty girls yes, Pretty Girls no

    Pretty girls yes, Pretty Girls no

    In apparent response to Her Majesty the Queen's concern over a popular racy dance craze by "Coyote Girls", Thailand's Ministry of Culture is issuing a regulation prohibiting female students aged under 20 to become "Coyote Girls" and "Pretty Girls", young women usually featured in provocative clothing hired by merchants to promote their products.

    Seeing TV footage of flirtatious dancing during a broadcast from the recent Rocket Festival in the northeastern province of Nong Khai, Her Majesty Queen Sirikit expressed concern through her secretary that "coyote dancing" seemed inappropriate at such an event and would tarnish the image of Thailand as a centre of Buddhism.

    The ministry plans both short-term and long-term measures to deal with the matter. Immediately the ministry ordered heads of provincial cultural offices to coordinate local administration and police to strictly monitor and for inappropriate shows not to be allowed in public places, according to Ladda Tangsupachai, director of the ministry's cultural watchdog centre.

    Some businesses had hired the young women to dress and dance provocatively at temple entrances and other places during busy festivals, it was explained. an activity and location which the Queen found inappropriate.

    Ms Ladda said that heads of provincial cultural offices must report to the ministry monthly and the ministry will report progress of its implementation to Her Majesty the Queen's secretary.

    Meanwhile, Ms Ladda said, the Ministry of Culture and the Education Ministry will enact a ministerial regulation banning students aged below 20 to work as Coyote Girls or Pretty Girls. The regulation will be effective immediately upon being issued.

    As for the long-term solution, the director said, the ministry will hold a national workshop deliberating establishment of a National Cultural Fund to preserve and protect the Thai culture as well as to solve cultural problems in sustainable manner. The scheme will be put on the national agenda, she said. (TNA)




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    But the ancient cultural 'Lum Wong Dance' will continue inside temple grounds ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by William
    Some businesses had hired the young women to dress and dance provocatively at temple entrances and other places during busy festivals, it was explained. an activity and location which the Queen found inappropriate.
    Where's the pics?

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    They certainly put a rise in my Levis!

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    Young dancing girls a dilemma for Culture

    A proposed regulation to ban women aged younger than 20 working as so-called "coyote dancers" is attracting fire for alleged violation of workers' rights.



    Culture Minister Khunying Khaisri Sriaroon yesterday vowed to resolve the issue of young women promoting products or entertaining at public events "dressed in skimpy outfits and moving erotically".

    She said she was exploring legal avenues to restrict the practice.

    Her Majesty the Queen recently expressed concern at television coverage of young women dancing at a Buddhist charity event at Nong Khai.

    The ministry wants a regulation to stop women under 20 from working as product presenters and dancers at public events. Khaisri is due to meet officials, employers and the media on November 8 to find solutions.

    The ministry's Cultural Monitoring Centre was investigating.

    Meanwhile, Labour Protection and Welfare Department chief Padungsak Thephasdin na Ayutthaya said prohibiting under-20s from working as dancers was against labour rights. He said women aged around 20 were mature and had a right to work where and at what they wished.

    He said event organisers should do their homework before sending dancers to events or locations to ensure it was appropriate for them to appear. The dancers themselves could use their own discretion and cultural knowledge to determine if what they were doing was tasteful.

    The law already provides regulations restricting young people from certain work - in the sex trade for example.

    However, he admitted the "coyote" issue was difficult. There was little information about employer-employee patterns. The department was working on the problem so the industry could be controlled and penalties for rule breaches imposed.

    Education Minister Wijit Srisaan warned the Culture Ministry to proceed with caution. Regulations had to be workable and individual rights protected.

    "This is not an issue like drinking alcohol. If anyone dances in public in a lewd manner it would be inappropriate regardless of age," he argued.

    Wijit said the Education Ministry already had guidelines governing student conduct, and improper behaviour resulted in disciplinary action.
    Meanwhile, Interior Ministry permanent secretary Pongpayom Wasaputi informed provincial governors of Her Majesty's concerns and sought their help in preventing future inappropriate performances, especially at Buddhist sites and public events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    "This is not an issue like drinking alcohol. If anyone dances in public in a lewd manner it would be inappropriate regardless of age," he argued.
    Only if they are old and overweight!

    Seriously though - it seems someone needs to take a chill pill. Times chance, and there are other problems in Thai society far more worthy of attention than a few girls dancing "lewdly".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteshiva View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    "This is not an issue like drinking alcohol. If anyone dances in public in a lewd manner it would be inappropriate regardless of age," he argued.
    Only if they are old and overweight!

    Seriously though - it seems someone needs to take a chill pill. Times chance, and there are other problems in Thai society far more worthy of attention than a few girls dancing "lewdly".
    agreed.

    however, jus about every culture and society throughout history has been concerned about problems with it's youth and provocative dancing etc...

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    The objection to the dancing has been raised because it is new and officials are usually scared of anything new.

    Lum Wong dancing has been going on for ages and is accepted even inside temple grounds. Why is this acceptable ?

    Lum Wong.
    The stage is erected inside temple grounds.
    On the stage is about 15 girls all dressed in very short mini skirts
    You buy a ticket for 20 baht.
    When the music starts you give your ticket to the girl you want to dance with. ( she gets 10 baht for every ticket she collects)
    You dance with the girl and must behave yourself.
    When the music stops the lights are turned off and you have 30 seconds groping time.
    The lights come back on and everyone stands there pretending nothing happened.

    I have been to two of these in Phrae and the girls were all in their twenties but I have been told of 14 year olds performing in Nan.

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    I used to enjoy going to the local Wat-a-go-go. Seems like I'll have to go elsewhere for my relief rubbings.

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    go to the local high schools sports carnival. the cheerleding competition is something else.
    and the moe are wellaware of these.
    trying to change the indepth culture of thais by bringing in legislation to prevent it???
    most of the purveyors of this , are government officials, or up here in the sticks, monks.
    and when has a law worked for more than two weeks?

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    Coyote dancers blame imposters for criticism

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    Coyote dancers have blamed "fake" racy dancing during a religious ceremony for criticism of their job.

    Many dancers in Bangkok insist their work does not offend morality because they usually dance in bars. They say the problem is caused by some organisers exploiting the sexy shows to promote products at inappropriate areas.

    "Those are not coyote dancers like us. We know what kind of jobs we should accept or reject," said Yok, 25.

    She was referring to a group of girls in sexy clothes who danced provocatively to promote motorcycle sales in Nong Khai province. The dancing drew strong criticism as it was held near a temple during a religious ceremony to mark the end of Buddhist Lent in October. The show upset Her Majesty the Queen and as soon as her concern was made known, state agencies led by the Culture Ministry considered imposing restrictions on coyote dancing. Culture Minister Khaisri Sri-aroon will today unveil the outcome of a meeting between officials and private companies on state initiatives to set a minimum age for dancers and introduce strict controls on the dancing.

    Yok and other dancers have joined a chorus of voices calling on the government to differentiate between dancers working in pubs and bars and those dancing at inappropriate venues. "Those dancing in the temple are fake," she said.

    However, most dancers agree with the idea of setting a minimum age for dancers, which should be in line with a law that does not allow teenagers under the age of 20 to enter discotheques.

    Coyote dancing has become a big hit since 2000, following the release of the popular American film Coyote Ugly.

    The film depicts the lives of female bartenders who perform erotic dancing in a New York bar.

    In real life, Yok says, it is not easy to become a coyote dancer. She spent two years studying dancing before becoming a coyote dancer. Others have also worked hard to become good dancers.

    But they are rewarded for their efforts as they can earn a lot of money from dancing to support their studies and families. Yok earns 20,000 baht a month while Wave, 21, makes nearly 30,000 baht.

    This is a key reason why they have asked the government to carefully consider restrictions on coyote dancing. The impact would not be limited to them, but could extend to their families.

    Wave is saving money for her undergraduate studies. Each month she also has to give some of her earnings to her family. The inappropriate coyote dancing in Nong Khai also upset her as she fears it could lead to the end of her career.

    "I don't think coyote dancing spoils girls," Wave said. "Most of us return home after work."
    However, Pol Maj-Gen Kamronwit Toopkrachang, chief of the Crimes Against Children, Juveniles and Women Suppression Division, has warned the dancers and organisers to beware of outdoor shows that may break the law on public lewdness and could put the dancers, clad in short, tight outfits, in danger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    But they are rewarded for their efforts as they can earn a lot of money from dancing to support their studies and families. Yok earns 20,000 baht a month while Wave, 21, makes nearly 30,000 baht.
    Wow, looks like somebody I know needs a career change.

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    Back in the days when she her self was a young darling and being praised for her beauty in the world's press, she was lapping it up.

    Now she objects to some young thing making the best of her own looks on the grounds that it offends Thai culture.

    OR is it..

    Young things with great bodies being admired by men offending older women?

    It often is that way.

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    working in a bar, dancing is ok by thai standards.

    ok. the show here has finished. lets go to the bar and see some more.

    double standards anyone?
    tit. it doesn't happen.

    ps. i'm, when out on the piss with my farang and thai mates that it does.

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