Thread: Phuket Manhunt for Expat Killer: Englishman Knifes American to Death

The only thing the Thai fear is being criticized by the UK or US, they'll give him an average UK or US sentence. So probably 25-30 years divided by 2.

The UK did so much for Thailand in this case, that the Thais were forced to follow, I doubt if they'll then sentence him to something that the UK (and the US) would find distasteful.

The Thais will only care about being patted on the back from them, like a child who has done something good, and be told 'Well done son, you did well and made us proud'. The Thais would grow an extra inch and have it in newspaper headlines, framed in their offices.

^No, that Thais will look quite stupid if they do so much to get him extradited and then give him a paltry sentence .

The Thais will only care about being patted on the back from them,

Indeed, the thais dont give a damn about falang on falang crime and whether this gobshite is gaoled or free, they scored a victory in getting him back but hes more of a nuisance to them whilst hes here as the prisoners abroad human rights tree hugger ngo's will be sniffing around making sure he is well fed and looked after.

hopefully some americans will pay for a scalding water and sharpened buttplug party for him before too long.

Are you referring to the Thai judiciary system, or the Thai people in general ? ^

the judiciary would rather they didnt have to deal with falang on falang crime, although they are indecently happy to dish out draconian punishments to any falang found guilty of getting one over on a thai.

thais in general live in tiny bubbles of indifference to anything that occurs outside of their tiny universes composed of their immediate family, a bowl of rice and a facebook page.

Originally Posted by Mikey Forester

Originally Posted by Fluke

^No, that Thais will look quite stupid if they do so much to get him extradited and then give him a paltry sentence .

Er yes, that's my point.

They'll give him a sentence on par with the UK and US in order to make themselves fit in.

I would guess that this is about 25-30 years, then divided by 2.


As for the finer details, whether the time on remand in Thailand or/and the time fighting extradition in UK (which must have been around 2 years) will be deducted from his sentence I doubt the teakdoor judiciary and legal experts would know.

Both Thai and UK punishments for murder are pretty much the same , 10-30 years depending on the case , also UK prisoners automatically get 1/3 off their sentence , whether they plead guilty or not and with time taken off for good behavior and being let out on a tag , UK prisoners will probably serve half their prison sentence in jail .
Also, time spent on remand in Thai jails is counted as time serves , in other words, time spent on remand is deducted from the sentence

All in all I am in admiration of the local plods in persisting with the extradition from the UK. Linguistically not least it must have been a real challenge. Real evidence must have been produced and accepted into evidence under UK rules.

Originally Posted by Fluke

Both Thai and UK punishments for murder are pretty much the same

Incorrect.

Originally Posted by taxexile

Thais in general live in tiny bubbles of indifference to anything that occurs outside of their tiny universes composed of their immediate family, a bowl of rice and a facebook page.

I think its fair to say they are like this simply because the vast majority of Thais do not have the financial means to travel outside there country and actually see first hand how the rest of the real world live.

Considering this fact its not hard to see why they are sometimes lacking in a worldly view on things.

Regards Edhouse, just tie his legs together and off him into the nearest canal .

I can easily see why sometimes Thais have zero disrespect and time for falang as there is some truly fuked up individual tossers getting around this country.

On the other hand many Thais like Falang as long as they show a bit of respect to the country they choose to reside in.

Originally Posted by Fluke

Both Thai and UK punishments for murder are pretty much the same , 10-30 years depending on the case , also UK prisoners automatically get 1/3 off their sentence , whether they plead guilty or not and with time taken off for good behavior and being let out on a tag , UK prisoners will probably serve half their prison sentence in jail .

Not true. If he gets 25 years he'll serve 25 years, unless he gets a Royal pardon. I think he is allowed to return to the UK after 1/3 of the sentence, but he'll have to serve it according to Thai law.

If you read Sandra Gregory's book, this is what happened to her. When she returned to the UK, she was to serve the remainder of her full sentence in High Security prisons because the Thai legal system considered the offence to be that serious. She actually said that she preferred prison in Thailand because she could spend more time outside.

She was eventually released on a Royal Pardon.

Phuket Murder Victim's Mother Makes Facebook Plea for Long Aldhouse Sentence - Phuket Wan

Originally Posted by Fluke

Are you referring to the Thai judiciary system, or the Thai people in general ? ^

Fair question that one.

Just drifting off topic for a tad I'd like to offer up my observations since 1987.

The Thai's that have worked in falang orientated areas like Phuket, pattaya, samui and other tourist orientated centers have become tainted to the falang as they have witnessed so much human falang trash wander through over time.

Its like, here is another fat falang monger, lets rip him off. Why Not ?

Get up country or away from the tourist places and they are a brilliant lot.

Just my observation, carry on.

i

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

If you read Sandra Gregory's book, this is what happened to her. When she returned to the UK, she was to serve the remainder of her full sentence in High Security prisons because the Thai legal system considered the offence to be that serious. She actually said that she preferred prison in Thailand because she could spend more time outside.

I have read it
Think the British prision Authourities didnt like here / considered her an escape risk hence the continuing max security .
She had mixed feelings about where best to be jailed .

Yawn @ Farang Red / Mikey Forester.

Give it up fella, nobody's listening to your little agenda.

What I want to know is - when this scumbag gets sentenced, what next? Are the marines really gonna have this guy sorted? Or, are they just full of hot air and a bunch of ladyboy banging mouthpieces, as we all suspect?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Fluke

Both Thai and UK punishments for murder are pretty much the same , 10-30 years depending on the case , also UK prisoners automatically get 1/3 off their sentence , whether they plead guilty or not and with time taken off for good behavior and being let out on a tag , UK prisoners will probably serve half their prison sentence in jail .

Not true. If he gets 25 years he'll serve 25 years, unless he gets a Royal pardon. I think he is allowed to return to the UK after 1/3 of the sentence, but he'll have to serve it according to Thai law.

If you read Sandra Gregory's book, this is what happened to her. When she returned to the UK, she was to serve the remainder of her full sentence in High Security prisons because the Thai legal system considered the offence to be that serious. She actually said that she preferred prison in Thailand because she could spend more time outside.

She was eventually released on a Royal Pardon.

The Judge has already stated that Aldehouse will get 50 % reduction off his sentence for pleading guilty .

Originally Posted by Fluke

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Fluke

Both Thai and UK punishments for murder are pretty much the same , 10-30 years depending on the case , also UK prisoners automatically get 1/3 off their sentence , whether they plead guilty or not and with time taken off for good behavior and being let out on a tag , UK prisoners will probably serve half their prison sentence in jail .

Not true. If he gets 25 years he'll serve 25 years, unless he gets a Royal pardon. I think he is allowed to return to the UK after 1/3 of the sentence, but he'll have to serve it according to Thai law.

If you read Sandra Gregory's book, this is what happened to her. When she returned to the UK, she was to serve the remainder of her full sentence in High Security prisons because the Thai legal system considered the offence to be that serious. She actually said that she preferred prison in Thailand because she could spend more time outside.

She was eventually released on a Royal Pardon.

The Judge has already stated that Aldehouse will get 50 % reduction off his sentence for pleading guilty .

Yes, but that's the Thai legal system, not the UK one.

For pleading guilty, Sandra Gregory got something like 35 years instead of being executed (although I think they normally commute it to life anyway if it's a pinkie).

Ah, I believe that if people in Thailand get a jail sentence and then get sent back to the UK to serve the sentence , then they must serve the whole sentence .
There has been instances of British people getting lengthy jail sentences in Thailand and refusing to get transferred back to the UK to serve their time , because they know they will have to serve the full sentence back in the UK and in Thailand they will receive a sentence reduction or even a Royal pardon

Originally Posted by Fluke

Ah, I believe that if people in Thailand get a jail sentence and then get sent back to the UK to serve the sentence , then they must serve the whole sentence .
There has been instances of British people getting lengthy jail sentences in Thailand and refusing to get transferred back to the UK to serve their time , because they know they will have to serve the full sentence back in the UK and in Thailand they will receive a sentence reduction or even a Royal pardon

Sandra Gregory's pardon came while she was in the UK. Being back home doesn't prevent you applying for a Pardon.

Anyone who wants to stay in the Bangkok Hilton rather than go home, using this as a reason, is misinformed!

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by Fluke

Are you referring to the Thai judiciary system, or the Thai people in general ? ^

Fair question that one.

Just drifting off topic for a tad I'd like to offer up my observations since 1987.

The Thai's that have worked in falang orientated areas like Phuket, pattaya, samui and other tourist orientated centers have become tainted to the falang as they have witnessed so much human falang trash wander through over time.

Its like, here is another fat falang monger, lets rip him off. Why Not ?

Get up country or away from the tourist places and they are a brilliant lot.

Just my observation, carry on.

i

A Thai friend of mine went to the North with her English husband and she lost her ID card so went to the Police station. When she walked in they all stood up because a ferang walked in, when they realized it was her that wanted to see them it was back to their grumpy selves and disinterest. She was fuming that he gets special treatment because he's white.

I went in to get a police report and they couldn't have looked less interested. It was like they felt they were doing me a big favour instead of their job.

So I guess oop North they don't see too many pinkies, eh?

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by taxexile

Thais in general live in tiny bubbles of indifference to anything that occurs outside of their tiny universes composed of their immediate family, a bowl of rice and a facebook page.

Regards Edhouse, just tie his legs together and off him into the nearest canal .

.

Well put Tewwy

Originally Posted by Stranger

Thought the US marines in Phuket were having a whip round, to get him bashed up inside?

That was the rumor a few years ago. If Thais are half as corrupt as they say, it would be so easy to do.

28 NOVEMBER 2013

A Thai court has sentenced a British kickboxer to 25 years in jail for the 2010 murder of a former US Marine on a resort island.

The Phuket provincial court today found Lee Aldhouse guilty of stabbing to death ex-Marine Dashawn Longfellow after being beaten by the American during a brawl at a Phuket bar.

The court reduced Aldhouse's sentence from a life sentence because he pleaded guilty.

Aldhouse was a semi-professional kickboxer who fought under the nickname "Pitbull." He had been living on-and-off in Phuket, where Mr Longfellow was also studying the sport.

Aldhouse was extradited to Thailand last year in the first case of extradition of a criminal suspect from Britain to Thailand.

He was arrested at Heathrow Airport after fleeing Thailand.

British kickboxer guilty of murder - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

Looking a bit pasty-faced isn't he? Better get used to that. I'm guessing he'll be going somewhere a little less luxurious now. Perhaps his "bad boy" days are numbered.

Good start to the day here in the UK.

I hope Longfellow's father is satisfied with the sentencing and that Aldhouse does the full term.