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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
    "How long before they're publishing hit lists of names and addresses?"

    Not long,...................

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    The yeloows are scum. I know many members, some senior; they are blind scum... using kids, ruining kid's lives, to better their political cause... Educators???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    The yeloows are scum. I know many members, some senior; they are blind scum... using kids, ruining kid's lives, to better their political cause... Educators???

    Baby, the yellows are/aren't scum

    the reds are/aren't scum

    why take it seriously?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bkkrunner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    The yeloows are scum. I know many members, some senior; they are blind scum... using kids, ruining kid's lives, to better their political cause... Educators???

    Baby, the yellows are/aren't scum

    the reds are/aren't scum

    why take it seriously?

    Bkkrunner, thank you for making me think.

    Actually, this is the first time that I 100% agree with you. (first point)

    The second point, I take it seriously because the yellows/Dems actively stop freedom of speech. I hate Thaksin, but the TRT never stopped freedom of speech. I work at the top Uni in the nation; I work with the kids, the future; I don't need them to agree with me (I only require them to think for themselves and come to whatever conclusions they will...), but I refuse to allow others to inhibit/threaten their freedom of speech and freedom of thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    ....but the TRT never stopped freedom of speech.
    Any error in tact, fact or spelling is purely due to transmissional errors...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteshiva View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    ....but the TRT never stopped freedom of speech.
    Keyword: STOPPED.

    Bullied, infringed, antagonized, abused their power and limited: yes.

    Stopped: no.

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    ^

    I concur with the view above, the TRT never stopped freedom of speech.

    However they did make every effort to ensure that it was their political views that got pushed through in all government departments. If you spoke out against them at work it was suspension or a P45 for your trouble.

    This government censorship is keeping Thailand in the Dark Ages. I was talking to a Thai Engineer the other night who works offshore in Malaysia, a clever guy from Mukdahan with a University education.
    He told me that whilst he was on the platform during the Bangkok riots, he was always being questioned by the other engineers on political developments at home.

    He said that on more than one occasion his country was being compared to Myanmar/Burma by outsiders or falangs.

    He said to me its back to the bad old days of blind obedience and subservience to the Bangkok elite. He also said that the PM, DPM and a few other should rot in hell along with a few red shirt leaders for not being able to see the end game coming for their protesters.
    "Don,t f*ck with the baldies*

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehighlander959 View Post
    … He said to me its back to the bad old days of blind obedience and subservience to the Bangkok elite...
    Yep, it's looking that way.

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    ^ In their tiny minds perhaps. They are just mocked around here.
    I saw some local cockfighting yesterday.
    Light Cocks are nicknamed 'Abhi' and dark Cocks 'Plem'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    In their tiny minds
    indeed, see below

    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    Light Cocks are nicknamed 'Abhi' and dark Cocks 'Plem'

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    18-year-old's Facebook Posting Spurs 'Hate Campaign'

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    Pravit Rojanaphruk, The Nation




    An 18-year-old high school graduate has become the subject of an on-line hate campaign over alleged insult of the Royal institution. Natthakarn Sakundarachat also claims that she has been refused a place at Silpakorn University because her highly controversial postings on her Facebook account. Natthakarn Sakundarachat, also known as “Karn Thoop” in cyber space, told The Nation yesterday she had received death threats both on-and off-line. Internet users have spread her picture and family details and vilified her through repeated forward mail, she said.
    She described herself as the victim of an online "hate" campaign, although those offended by her Facebook postings ask whether she played a part by stirring things up.


    “I would like to ask people in this country if we have liberty to choose our religious faith why can’t we have the right to choose who we love or not love as well?” Natthakarn said, adding that while some of her writings on Facebook should be treated as political writing it weren't meant to be taken seriously. She also alleged that some of the content attributed to her Facebook profile page has been fabricated by others and used in the on-line hate campaign on Facebook and people her to “go and die”, “to get out of Thailand”.


    At press time, people in charge of admission at Silpakorn University could not be reached for a comment. But Natthakarn insisted her political belief and the on-line campaign led the university to be biased against her. She insisted her grade was good and her interview went well.


    Natthakarn is a member of a socialist group of the red-shirt movement called Social Progressive Congress.She said she was disappointed and added she may not be able to study at any university for the upcoming school year as a result.
    Natthakarn said her neighbours in Ratchaburi’s Baan Poeng district also received leaflets attacking her and family. She said police refused to accept her complaint, saying they could not trace those behind the leaflets.


    “I am afraid that I might be attacked,” she said. “Around my home, I have been accused of trying to overthrow the monarchy. When I went to the police two days ago the police told us to be careful. The whole district knows about it now… I feel that I am not getting justice. It has not been proven that I really defame [the monarchy]. Now I can’t even use a phone,” she said, adding that barrage of hateful calls had been made after her family details were revealed online.
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    I like this girl...

    “I would like to ask people in this country if we have liberty to choose our religious faith why can’t we have the right to choose who we love or not love as well?”

    After the discreet, considerate treatment by the press, it's hardly surprising she's getting lots of crap.

    I'm very sad to hear of the predictable behaviour she and her family have had to endure.

    All power to her.
    "Slavery is the daughter of darkness; an ignorant people is the blind instrument of its own destruction; ambition and intrigue take advantage of the credulity and inexperience of men who have no political, economic or civil knowledge. They mistake pure illusion for reality, license for freedom, treason for patriotism, vengeance for justice."-Simón Bolívar

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
    "How long before they're publishing hit lists of names and addresses?" For now we have the "conspiracy map," with names that generally don't require addresses.

    Ah, we even have the kind of emesis-inducing unintentional hilarity I recall from my time in the USSR: "But due to tons of information we have received from people, we have decided to repeal her right to study in our Faculty” said the Dean of Faculty of Arts, Silpakorn University." Dude, sorry, Dean, like, "tons"? Rilly? But on a more chilling note: ". . .there is no written rule that a student of this university has to be loyal to the major national institutes. It is assumed a duty for Thai people to know and hold on to this noble attitude." Baby, you are not only ignoble, you are un-Thai. Get out of the house if you hate it here so much.
    Oh i see now so in a democratic society we can say and do what ever we like, as long as it is what you say and do. They got it wrong they won't admit it and this is the sort of thing Nazi Germany did just before murdering people in their homes.

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    If she really did say all the things, anti government and anti monarcy why has she not been arrested, seems the University has had it's own trial no matter that the evidence is hearsay he said, she said etc. I wonder if the girl has even been able to refute any allegations, i doubt it. Here you can be arrested for not standing up in a Cinema to show respect for the King so if she had put anything in writing that reflected badly on the Royal Family i'm sure the boys in blue would of come calling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangkok gooner View Post
    If she really did say all the things, anti government and anti monarcy why has she not been arrested, seems the University has had it's own trial no matter that the evidence is hearsay he said, she said etc. I wonder if the girl has even been able to refute any allegations, i doubt it. Here you can be arrested for not standing up in a Cinema to show respect for the King so if she had put anything in writing that reflected badly on the Royal Family i'm sure the boys in blue would of come calling.
    Yes, seems like some kind of kangaroo court has sat. I wonder if it on ethnic grounds? Stranger things have happened. Academics hgere seem to be more obsessed with political correctness, 'Thai-ness', the length of student skirts and whether or not the female students are wearing underwear than they do with the actual quality of education.


    Which I guess is one reason the quality is so low.

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    Dispicable and disgusting but oh so PAD and yellow.

    Still the PAD and yellow can comfort themselves regards the not so disloyal judicial process and military junta eh , understand.

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    Has anyone heard any updates on this story?

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    What's to update Paul?

    She won't get into this Uni (or any other?). She has been tarred and feathered already by an extremist group that use children/education to further their political/financial cause.

    Job done. Nothing further to report.

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    I wonder if her English is good. I bet a university abroad might offer her a free spot. Call it political educational asylum.

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    Can't believe the Thai-Chinese middle class are now trying to portray themselves as Royalists (See Facebook for evidence). F00king phonies the lot of them.

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    ^ #70

    Some PAD leaders, Sondhi for example, are certainly not royalists (unlike say Samak/Chavalit who they attack/ed...), they're oportunists, IMHO.

    If you look at the PAD rallies you'll see 95% Chinese looking people. At the red rallies you see 95% Thai looking folk (much darker skin for example). Of course it's not so clearcut with the Northern people looking very Chinese and the Southern folk looking very dark, but the stark contrast between the colour of the wealthy and the colour of the poor (the vast majority anyway) is very obvious.

    Walk around Paragon/Emporium and take some snaps. Then walk around a local market of an average BKK neighbourhood (not Thonglor...) and take some snaps. Compare the two; different ethnic groups.

    The Malaysians feared the ethnic Chinese taking over, hence Singapore. The Thais were Sabai Sabai, and the ethnic Chinese look to have taken over. This isn't a problem in itself, except for the fact that once in a position of power the ethnic Chinese close all the doors to every other group and become the new ruling class, effectively keeping the indiginous population as a subclass...

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    ^

    Chinese never had it as easy as in Thailand. Imagine if they ended up
    in Indonesia instead. Coming to think of it most of the major players in
    this mess are Thai-Chinese. Surprise no one written an article about it.

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    Most of the Chinese within Thailand, you will find, naturally look down on the buffaloes and darkies. Its been like this since ... well forever. The stuff you see on Facebook during the Red riot is just a public manifestation of what has been said behind closed doors for decades.

    The Chinese in Thailand aren't particularly united either. If you look into history, many of them originally migrated to Thailand because of inter-ethnic/clan wars. Basically millions of Chinese hacking each other to bits back in Guangdong. The differences are still seen in Thailand. The majority are the Teochew, then there are the Hakka (Thaksin, Abhisit?, etc), Hainan-ren (Sonthi), Cantonese, Fujianese, etc. The older generations especially don't like each other very much.

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    As for this happening, I don't think this is just about the controllers and those controlled. I think this is also a story of the culture of apathy which is Thailand. Thais don't sincerely care about the plight of others. In the villages there may be less apathy for their connected family and neighbors. In general though despite not being a western style dog-eat-dog society, it is everyone out for themselves, cut-throat in its own unique way. This girl will be just another forgotten victim.

    There are a lot of words/phrases similar in meaning to Mai Bpen Rai in Thai and Mai Bpen Rai can be translated into different meanings in English depending how it is used in context. But I think it has a meaning I hadn't thought of before. It means 'Who cares!' too. Welcome to Thailand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post

    The Malaysians feared the ethnic Chinese taking over, hence Singapore. The Thais were Sabai Sabai, and the ethnic Chinese look to have taken over. This isn't a problem in itself, except for the fact that once in a position of power the ethnic Chinese close all the doors to every other group and become the new ruling class, effectively keeping the indiginous population as a subclass...
    The new ruling class, huh? Historic observations {and as of today} should show you that the Chinese/Chinese Thai have had their influence amongst the ruling few for some time. Seems to be a quiet working acceptance. The reference to 'indigenous' subclass would be.....?? As a pure Thai/Tai would be quite in the minority. One could even ask: What is Thai?

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