Originally Posted by
keda
Originally Posted by
joannevel69
Malaysia and Singapore have been hanging drug-runners for over 30 years without any prospect of mercy. Their justication is that the death penalty acts as a deterrent. If the deterrent factor is a successful policy, some might wonder why they still hang as many as they did a generation ago, . Logically, the threat of a death sentence does not deter the drug chiefs as they never expose themselves to the risk of being caught carrying. As for the mules, it is a case of ignorance or financial necessity that costs them their lives.
You seem to be dismissing the death penalty as a deterrent on the basis (will take your word on it) that they are still catching as many drug runners as they were catching 30 years ago. Then you start taking of logic as though your previous statement made any sense. Could it not be that intel, technology and understanding have improved detection rates, and or that there are more mules coming through than there were 30 years ago?
In fact if logic is at all relevant, a wild guess says Singapore/Malay-style capital punishment for drug traffickers is more of a deterrent than Western-style 8-10 mollycoddled years and out in 3. What do you think?
We may have different perceptions of what is logical. Take Malaysia as an example - it has had a mandatory death penalty for drug possession and trafficking for at least 25 years and many lowly mules have paid the ultimate penalty for their stupidity or greed or desperation or naivety. The harsh penalties are spelt out to those entering Malaysia. For most generally law-abiding people this record of merciless execution would re-inforce the lesson - if it was needed - not to deal in or possess drugs. The fact that there are still 300 people on death row in Malaysia and that, as one swings, another joins the queue, seems to me to say that the death penalty does not actually deter many of those most likely to break the law (due to their stupidity or greed or desperation or naivety); or, at least, does not deter them until they are convicted and face a grim wait for a grim and premature end.
Protesting against death penalty for drug possession in Malaysia | Demotix.com
My version of logic tells me that, if the threat of the death penalty had succeeded in deterring those it needed to deter, there would not still be 300 people awaiting execution in Malaysia, many of them for drug offences, a full generation after the mandatory death penalty was introduced.