Thread: Pregnant Brit Faces Firing Squad In Laos

Originally Posted by thegent

Personally, I think anyone, anywhere, irrespective of their conduct should receive fair treatment in the course of their penance. Possible exceptions may be ginger haired people, silly American bigots and folk who let doors close behind them without first checking for others.

Seems that there is no doubt as to her quilt, as she was caught with it in her possession, and readily admitted to doing it with an excuse that she was forced to do it. which is hard to believe even for me and I will believe a lot of stuff.

Now comes the penalty stage, and if it is on their books that capitol punishment is the Justice for that crime then it looks to me as if she is outta here.
She has gotten pregnant in jail somehow in a womens prison, so maybe a guard, and it could have been a wish that she could get knocked up and maybe save her own life by being knocked up, who knows,,not I for sure.
But SMACK is a dangerous drug, and maybe I am prejudiced as it is the cause of both my sons dying before their 40th birthdays, and I have seen a lot of folks that just could not quit, same addiction as tobacco and most of us know what a bitch that shit is to get rid of, I have not smoked now for a year and a half, but it is an everyday fight.
But back on topic, she is guilty beyond a doubt, and it is illegal in every country in the world to smuggle smack, so ignorance is not a valid excuse, and if the law says firing squad for that offense, then it should be firing squad, and for the life of me I can see no room for argument or human rights or what ever.
If you break the law willingly then you have given up your rights to everything but the people whose laws you have violated and have put your life and rights in their hands, prison and law enforcement is up to them from that point on.
She is not British and her rights as a British citizen should be null and void the second she stepped off that plane as a criminal, but if as everyone says then if she is carrying a Brit Baby, which I would say is Nigerian and Lao, not Brit, but if it is deemed Brit then it should be taken Cesarean and her shot in the head as soon as the child is safe.

Originally Posted by watterinja

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Laos is a hellhole. Westerners who live in Laos rarely see the truth of what the government does but it has one of the worst human rights records in the world. While it's easy to see the problems in Thailand, as it has a reasonably free press (albeit one that's easily bought) and doesn't regularly kill people who criticise the government, the Laos government has full dictatorial control over their country and only the persistent or the unlucky get to see the filth hiding behind the facade of stability. It's an authoritarian one-party state with all that implies, torture, corruption, disappearances, massacres, insurgencies, and attempted genocides. Laos is as bad as Burma but we don't get to hear about it much because nobody really gives a damn about Laos, it has nothing we want. The Laos government are very good at giving a controlled and false impression internally of what really goes on in that benighted shit-pit but why on earth should anybody with access to reasonably honest reportage be surprised that Laos is governed by lawless savages?

Sounds like "Let's gang up on Laos, day". Doubt you really have much evidence to go on - sounds like a lot of heresay, Bob, to be honest.

Unfortunately it's not hearsay at all, there is absolutely no doubt about Laos' status as a major human rights abuser.

Originally Posted by The Gentleman Scamp

I have my fingers crossed for her but I expect the worst

I don't. Some kind of deal will be struck. She won't be shot. Lao has much to lose and nothing to gain now that it has become the subject of international scrutiny.

Originally Posted by Norton

it has become the subject of international scrutiny.

Yes, but not enough in my opinion - so let's big it up for this nigga, Laos must learn to treat people with basic human rights if it wants to continue attracting foreigners.

Originally Posted by The Gentleman Scamp

I think if she has to be shot then it should include the baby.

What crime has the unborn child commited!
Even in the 18th century we did not hang pregnant women.
The baby should be given it's chance in life and she should be given due process of law after it is born, if that includes clemency so be it.

Originally Posted by larvidchr

She might for all you know be an ice cold gang banger bitch with a long rap sheet moving up from street muggings, happy slapping, street drug peddling and prostitution!

This is true, she could well be - but I refer you to the middle section of my post #153.

Originally Posted by good2behappy

What crime has the unborn child commited!
Even in the 18th century we did not hang pregnant women.
The baby should be given it's chance in life and she should be given due process of law after it is born, if that includes clemency so be it.

You may as well say the same for sperm, they're all potential people - and to say we are plentiful is an understatement.

Why am I always out of ammo?

^ What colour do you wish for me?

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

Originally Posted by The Gentleman Scamp

I think if she has to be shot then it should include the baby.

What crime has the unborn child commited!
Even in the 18th century we did not hang pregnant women.
The baby should be given it's chance in life and she should be given due process of law after it is born, if that includes clemency so be it.

Nothing is going to happen to her Baby, she will be allowed to have it and after that it most likely will be sent to Britain for you British to pay for the rest of its life.

Good, well I'm glad that's settled then.

Wonder how the kid will turn out?

Laos is not a rich country. I don't agree with its rules, but then I don't agree with the stupid western nations and the NGOs who go in there to prop it up, either. "UN Fresh Water Well Here" say the signs but only on the roads where foreigners travel, NGO SUVs all over the place. The west has made a two-tiered economy there -- the dirt poor and the rich who milk the NGO orgs and also get their second-hand vehicles, etc, every year (hey, can't have UN folk driving around in year-old vehicles).

Originally Posted by Thetyim

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So what do you suggest ?
Let her give birth and then shoot her ?

Sure, the prison guard dad probably wants the kid coz the UK will give them both free citizenship and welfare in the UK.

Originally Posted by English Noodles

By the time I was 20 I had spent over 6 years in Africa, 2 in India and 3 in Thailand.
We don't all grow up with the same run-of-the-mill childhood.

Ah, so now we know why you're so messed up. Mommy and Daddy were missionaries.

Originally Posted by watterinja

Originally Posted by Jools

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

^^ Jools, you are only thinking in Western terms. Why should these countries abide by Western standards in every sense?

You're damn right I'm thinking in Western terms. You have the audacity to use Ayn Rand as your avatar and ask such a question. Everything about the West is demonstrably superior. If you don't agree, why not use Noam Chomsky as your avatar. It seems a perfect fit.

If you can't see the problem with this statement, then you should never venture outside of so-called western 'civilisation'...

OMG, the first time I agree with Watter baby.
Jools, Rand's philosophy is far from what the west is doing these days -- welfare states, high taxes, leniency for criminals. Laos is not perfect by any means, but it states its laws clearly for criminal offences. This chick is guilty. And, the only commonwealth embassy in the nation is Australia's, if I remember correctly, so all related nationals deal through them. The UK folks know that.
She deserves the punishment for her crime. Probably thought they'd give her leniency for packing a kid. Typical user and abuser of others' good will.

Originally Posted by The Gentleman Scamp

Should, yes... Sadly there are many things that should be that are not.

That's a fair enough reason for supporting the Asian justice system and the penalty she will get - but what about the cockroaches, rats, cramped conditions, inedible food, darkness, rape and lack of exercise? Is the death penalty itself not enough for a 20 year old?

Originally Posted by The Gentleman Scamp

Good, well I'm glad that's settled then.

Wonder how the kid will turn out?

I fully agree with you, there are many prisons around in the world with appalling conditions, this is to us unacceptable and we work to change that in different ways trying to raise the levels of living standard and understanding of human rights in the third world, and through different organisations prison conditions is on the agenda as it should be.

But it is also a very good reason why you should choose carefully where you want to commit crime. there are hundreds of cases every year and everyone starts immediately to whine, ohh I did not know it would be that bad please help me, sorry but to me it's BS Scampy, you do have personal responsibility of your actions.

The baby will according to statistics probably turn out like shit, but that is not your responsibility or mine nor the Government of Laos, it is her responsibility unless she has been raped, if she has not been raped she should get additional punishment for bringing a baby to this world knowing it is going to suffer because of her totally lunatic actions.

^ I reckon felons in all western countries should be shipped to a third-world jail for six months of time. Save taxpayer money and let them suffer instead of getting bennies. I like that Arizona sheriff who has his prisoners in tent camps.

Personally I hate smack...lost too many mates to it. On the other hand I don't believe that the death penalty is a just thing either...it is their country and their laws, so you also have to understand that as well.

No she claims that someone made her do it/carry it ???? This I find a little hard to believe..she's from the UK-ish. So who in the UK made her travel to Lao to transport smack??? come on that sounds just a little too far fetched...more like her Nigerian yardie wannabe boyfriend from the UK said
'Do dis baby an all will be irie' Ras-clart.

On the other hand she loves the smack soooo much she wanted to get messed up in every country she visited on her Asian tour without the hassle of having to score in a new place everytime

Either way if she was raped in a Lao gaol then ooooohhhh that's nasty and I feel sorry for that experience...on the other hand if she had managed to get the smack back to blighty then it would've been cut to shit to make vast profits, and possibly been the cause of someone elses death!!! so rule of thumb don't transport or do this crap in the first place.....

Everytime I've been to Lao I have always been offered Weed and Opium....and yes it's been very tempting...but I managed to say NO at least to the Opium... just don't take it anywhere and generally anywhere you maybe in the world if you do it within the confines of your home/hotel (indoors) you can pretty much do what you want..

Take the UK for example Anal sex is illegal but we don't have the Anal police smashing your door down to check your partners arse .

So she was a silly little girl who may pay with her life for a stupid mistake...

That's gotta sting a little when she walks out to the sound of rifles being cocked