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    Bit careless lads
    Doing the ANZAC tradition proud, ya muppets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Begbie View Post
    Cry me a river.

    Fraud is a crime, sorry folks and Chiang Mai has a newish jail which I've been told is much better than the alternatives in Bangkok.
    Yes, Fraud is a crime. And we all do end up paying for it.

    When people go on a holiday and insure things like a laptop computer, that's newish, and other items like digital cameras, it somehow,

    Gets stolen:

    A few days ago, at my local pub this Woman in her early 20s (OK, she was Aussie) claimed she was walking down the tourist street and her wallet with $300 USD and about $200 worth of local currency were stolen.

    She then asked the staff at my local, which rents about 10 rooms, to have someone accompany her to the police station for translation for a police report to file an insurance report.

    Maybe true; maybe not.

    But these "thefts" seem very common - especially when insured.
    ............

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    Quote Originally Posted by mordiboy
    Doing the ANZAC tradition proud,
    nothing to do with ANZAC tradition mate !!!

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    pair of plonkers!

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    22 years old you think you're untouchable and Thai's are a bunch of no brained ricefarmers.

    There's loads like that in Chiang Mai, just left uni and think they know more than anybody else in the world.

    How many people on here can say they didn't pull fast ones in their youth ?

    They're daft and they got caught.

    Cheers

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    Absolute foking first class wankers and they both deserve a good shellacking for being so foking stupid.

    No tears for those bastards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiLeakHunt View Post
    22 years old you think you're untouchable and Thai's are a bunch of no brained ricefarmers.

    There's loads like that in Chiang Mai, just left uni and think they know more than anybody else in the world.

    How many people on here can say they didn't pull fast ones in their youth ?

    They're daft and they got caught.

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    What don't know what they knew.

    But they were ignorant as hell. I still wonder how much of this "theft" fraud goes on.

    Lot of wankers out there. Tons of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy View Post
    why didn't they hide the stuff somewhere else!
    Exactly, I can hardly see this a a scam, thats just too stupid, like reporting the car stolen and hiding it in the garage.

    Could cleaning staff have put them somewhere safe in the room and not let them know?

    Could they have been knocked off and then returned to the room when the cops got involved

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    Quote Originally Posted by nedwalk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mordiboy
    Doing the ANZAC tradition proud,
    nothing to do with ANZAC tradition mate !!!
    No offence intended. A weak attempt at sarcasim

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    Dont do the crime unless you can do the time .They got off lightly .

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    Hopefully, they understand what they've done wrong and next time they won't make the same mistake again...and they'll get away with a few bob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by venturalaw
    They're both lovely kids. They're not dole bludgers.
    no, they are fraudsters

    Quote Originally Posted by Jools
    Probably lack of a bribe has caused these young men their misfortune.
    maybe. If they had tried a bribe they may have been let off with a warning

    Quote Originally Posted by Jools
    If a Thai court "proves" guilt, I always assume innocence, especially where farangs are involved.
    your assumption is nonsense, esp where farangs are involved. The courts need to be very careful if farangs are involved

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jools
    If a Thai court "proves" guilt, I always assume innocence, especially where farangs are involved.
    your assumption is nonsense, esp where farangs are involved. The courts need to be very careful if farangs are involved
    That's good to know. Never having been involved with the police here in a criminal matter I had no idea how they treat farangs.

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    If they are guilty, they treat them badly!

    but because of the inevitable publicity and the involvement of the relevant embassy, they are more careful in their handling of the cases

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    Quote Originally Posted by venturalaw View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jools
    If a Thai court "proves" guilt, I always assume innocence, especially where farangs are involved.
    your assumption is nonsense, esp where farangs are involved. The courts need to be very careful if farangs are involved
    That's good to know. Never having been involved with the police here in a criminal matter I had no idea how they treat farangs.
    The police (generally but not universally) treat everybody with no power over them extremely badly, no matter whether they're farang or Thai. The courts, however, generally treat farangs fairly, there are exceptions and fair should be defined as being treated the same as the average non-connected Thai, not as being just.
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    Quote Originally Posted by venturalaw
    "They're both lovely kids. They're not dole bludgers.
    That's right, they're fraudsters not dole bludgers.

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    Something doesn't smell right about the entire affair... Why would they claim that these items were stolen to the police, only to have them found in their own room??? Seems a bit of a stretch for 2 young Aussies on vacation to plot such a devious & stupid plan for a few $$$ on an insurance claim...

    More likely that someone stole the items, the aussies reported the theft to the police, thief becomes scared and returns items to the room... Police investigate and find items, then confront the aussies with the facts... Aussies don't know to offer baht to make the problem go away and are then coerced in pleading guilty by the BiB for a reduced sentence.... Sounds about right for Thailand...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muadib
    Something doesn't smell right about the entire affair... Why would they claim that these items were stolen to the police, only to have them found in their own room??? Seems a bit of a stretch for 2 young Aussies on vacation to plot such a devious & stupid plan for a few $$$ on an insurance claim...
    sounds perfectly feasible to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Muadib
    More likely that someone stole the items, the aussies reported the theft to the police, thief becomes scared and returns items to the room... Police investigate and find items, then confront the aussies with the facts... Aussies don't know to offer baht to make the problem go away and are then coerced in pleading guilty by the BiB for a reduced sentence.... Sounds about right for Thailand...
    Jaysus, talk about making things complicated...what thief would return to the room to give back the goods? throw them in the nearest klong more like!

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    yup I am sure the thieves brought the stolen goods back. It was all a scam. Poor little ozzie boys.

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    Why would they claim that these items were stolen to the police, only to have them found in their own room???
    Probably because the police in Australia and the UK would just right a report and get back to worrying about the rest of the 10,000 papers they need to push around their desks that day.

    They'd hardly go and check.

    They probably understimated the diligence and world class sleuthing skills of your average Thai plod.

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    AAAHHHMMM they admitted to the crime did they not, obviously tortured

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    Well, the fact that even their family members are not protesting their innocence implies to me that they know what they have done and are taking it on the chin.

    Fair enogh.

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    Maybe one of the Chiang Mai members could go see them at the prison and let us know the real story.

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    Police Report sends two Australians to jail.

    Two young men visiting Chaing Mai from Australia, Paul Johnson and Jacob McGrath, were staying at a guest house in the city, and returned to their room reportedly to find a number of expensive items missing – including a digital camera, an iPod, a laptop computer and a pair of sunglasses.
    After allegedly searching through the guest house property, the pair called Chiang Mai police. All of the missing items were found shortly after the police arrived.
    The two men were arrested, and charged with supplying false information to the police.
    Although the men were scheduled to fly home to Australia the following day, they were required to remain in custody, pending a court appearance. Just four days after they were arrested, Johnson and McGrath were convicted of the charges and sentences to four months in jail.
    The sentence was reduced quickly reduced to two months, due to the two pleading guilty to the charges.



    The boys returned to Australia today after serving 10 weeks.

    Insurance fraud or drunken mistake?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAMorJOE
    Insurance fraud or drunken mistake?
    they confessed.



    Quote Originally Posted by SAMorJOE
    due to the two pleading guilty to the charges.
    guilty.

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