Thread: Billionaire hotel tycoon Bill Heinecke asks Thailand to charge foreigners more per ro

Originally Posted by misskit

You should come up to Chaing Mai for a look around.

FFS misskit button it!

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Go for it!

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Soi 11 was in the running.

Well of course it was.
Over the fkin road from NEP.

Surely even you can’t be that fucking stupid.

Can you?

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Soi 11 was in the running but it is reverting to tourist central post- covid with the usual parasites infesting the pavements again.

Lived on 13 years ago and was not at all like it is now. No way I would live near there now.

Lived on 13 years ago and was not at all like it is now. No way I would live near there now

Mrs. T's wonderful family live on Suk 22 and it has been our BKK bolthole since 1989 when we are not in either Hua Hin or the UK.

Back then it was primarily a residential area, gated mansions and terraces of shophouses existed side by side with dozens of noodle and curry shops, wet markets and the usual businesses that serve a residential area; doctors, dentists, repair shops, barbers, beauty salons, ma and pa shops selling individual cigarettes, rubber bands, shots of liquor and home made herbal drinks out of those huge glass fronted fridges for 1b. The owners of all these family run and owned businesses lived above the shop and were invariably welcoming and cheerful.

But slowly came the condominiums, followed by the huge hotels, the noisy bar complexes, the happy ending massage joints, the supermarkets, the horrible 7/11 and family mart stores, the terrible traffic jams down the soi with the pollution they bring and hordes of burmese workers living 10 to a room as all semblance of a thriving community where residents knew one another disappeared.

The family businesses couldnt compete with the corporate invasion, sold up and with the massive profits they made on their properties or rents moved out to western style moo baans in the suburbs.

The demographic there now is mostly sweaty bobbleheads, phlegm spewing chinks, fat drunk euros all served by the gimlet eyed sour faced grasping out of town thais that have replaced the once cheerful happy go lucky locals.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Thailand these days is little more than a caricature of a cliche manufactured by a PR machine selling paradise on the cheap to the masses while trying to foster the illusion of exclusivity to a higher class of punter that is in fact created out of little more than extortionate pricing for poor value.

Frankly, it’s a bore and the ever growing numbers of unappealing Chinese, Russians, Indians, Arabs and Asians make it more and more unattractive.

The urban stink, the squalor, the litter, the traffic congestion, the pollution, the tainted beaches, the absence of any culture other than the folkloric, the ubiquity of the Thai addiction to shopping mall culture, the absence of any heritage of note other than the repetition of their uniformly uninteresting temples, the unexciting cuisine dependent upon the tediously inevitable over-use of garlic, fish sauce, lime and chillis to mask the poor quality of produce bolstered by their slavish addiction to their rice and noodles, and the absurdly ludicrous belief that their country is the centre of the universe and all visitors to it must never be permitted to integrate make the place increasingly tenth rate.

Why do you still live there? It seems your a miserable kunt . There is an airport ya know

Originally Posted by taxexile

The demographic there now is mostly sweaty bobbleheads,

You should feel right at home with your kin then. Well done you!!

The entire society that once lived within their stratified communities in a mutual balance has now morphed into a world where narrow self interest is the primary vector of their interaction as they come to terms with debt.
Thailand is heading for a crash - their debt exposure is simply not compatible with an economy based on a monthly wage rate of 12000 -15000 baht - and the old order is no longer there to sustain the medieval straitjacket of supine compliance.
Thailand has the distinction of being the world’s worst country where its total wealth is controlled by the least number of people.
But in the end it doesn’t matter, China will control everything in the region so who gives a fuck.

Originally Posted by Norton

What in your opinion set them apart? I agree re your assessment of a shift toward western consumerism. However, I disagree this is the case for the entire nation. Get out of the urban areas and you would be hard pressed to find any sign of extreme consumerism. Everyday I see many things, to my mind, that set them apart.

You say that but even while navigating the many sleepy backroads of the Myanmar border region last week I was struck by the number of adverts nailed to trees advertising HP deals on Rangers, white goods, etc...

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

number of adverts nailed to trees advertising HP deals on Rangers, white goods, etc.

Extreme consumerism!

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The entire society that once lived within their stratified communities in a mutual balance has now morphed into a world where narrow self interest is the primary vector of their interaction as they come to terms with debt.
Thailand is heading for a crash - their debt exposure is simply not compatible with an economy based on a monthly wage rate of 12000 -15000 baht - and the old order is no longer there to sustain the medieval straitjacket of supine compliance.
Thailand has the distinction of being the world’s worst country where its total wealth is controlled by the least number of people.
But in the end it doesn’t matter, China will control everything in the region so who gives a fuck.

For fucks sake mate. You do talk a load of bollocks . Its just word Salad .
Stratified communities
Morphed into a world where narrow self interest is the primary vector.

Sustain the medievil.straitjacket of supine compliance.

Give it a rest ya silly kunt, your 18th century banter and world view are not entertaing, just the same shit regurgitated post after post. . What an extremely miserable chap you are. It must suck to be living in a country you despise. Why not move back to india. Join millions of miserable fuckers.

The World Bank’s data for 2019 has Thailand having the highest income inequality rate in East Asia/Pacific region and the widely reported data singling Thailand out as having the world’s highest income inequality was the Credit Suisse report of December 2018.

Needless to say, the Thai rejected the report but then, they would, wouldn’t they.

BLD, stop babbling and stick to your own pursuits. Incidentally, I don’t despise the country, I despise its governance but then, that’s probably true of most of the world, you oaf.

World Economics is not a reliable source, particularly when one notes the data has been skewed by the worst fucking pandemic in modern history since 1918.

Originally Posted by Norton

Extreme consumerism!

What did you mean by "extreme consumerism" other than getting into debt then?

You think they don't have Shopee in Ban Nit Noi?

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The World Bank’s data for 2019 has Thailand having the highest income inequality rate in East Asia/Pacific region and the widely reported data singling Thailand out as having the world’s highest income inequality was the Credit Suisse report of December 2018.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

You think they don't have Shopee in Ban Nit Noi?

I live in what Thais refer to as Ban Nok. Sure a few have Shopee but even those that do simply don't have the money to purshase much of anything.

SA's quote above is spot on. The vast majority in the village don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out.

Tell ya what Harry, you seem an ok fella so come visit for a week to see first hand how folks here live day to day.

Originally Posted by Norton

Tell ya what Harry, you seem an ok fella so come visit for a week to see first hand how folks here live day to day.

No thanks, I did it last week and I'm still recovering from the lao khao which I suspect destroyed at least one lobe of my liver

Maybe it's different in Shan territory but none of them seem to have settled for a Nokia 3350.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

No thanks, I did it last week and I'm still recovering from the lao khao which I suspect destroyed at least one lobe of my liver

Maybe it's different in Shan territory but none of them seem to have settled for a Nokia 3350.

Green owed.

It’s quite clear that SA misses the ‘supine compliance’ of the native population. The posture that allowed him to lord it over locals, using his highly refined colonial manners.
You have clearly been here too long, especially given that you settled in Pattaya, to enjoy the fruits of your colonial past.
The Thai do not enjoy your superiority complex SA. They copied it, enabling them to kick you into the gutter where you rightfully belong. Time has moved on and you should have moved on long ago, instead of extolling the virtues of your faded and precarious ‘upstairs downstairs’ memories.

Originally Posted by Switch

to enjoy the fruits of your colonial past.

Thailand was famously, and erroneously, never colonised so they lack the mechanism to kowtow to foreigners . . . their own overlords are akin to Gods, but not whitey.

The whole 'colonialism' schtick is worn out, especially in places like NZ where it is used as an excuse for all behaviour, demands and emotional blackmail with the ensuing 'Malay Dilemma' response, which has turned into the 'Second Malay Dilemma'. .


SA simply doesn't like the place, but it still offers a better life for him than the UK, like you prefer Bali for probably similar reasons.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Thailand was famously, and erroneously, never colonised so they lack the mechanism to kowtow to foreigners . . . their own overlords are akin to Gods, but not whitey.

The whole 'colonialism' schtick is worn out, especially in places like NZ where it is used as an excuse for all behaviour, demands and emotional blackmail with the ensuing 'Malay Dilemma' response, which has turned into the 'Second Malay Dilemma'. .


SA simply doesn't like the place, but it still offers a better life for him than the UK, like you prefer Bali for probably similar reasons.

It’s quite clear that the colonial past to which I referred belongs to SA. Despite past centuries, when western countries vied for influence in Siamese matters.

Originally Posted by Switch

It’s quite clear that SA misses the ‘supine compliance’ of the native population. The posture that allowed him to lord it over locals, using his highly refined colonial manners.
You have clearly been here too long, especially given that you settled in Pattaya, to enjoy the fruits of your colonial past.
The Thai do not enjoy your superiority complex SA. They copied it, enabling them to kick you into the gutter where you rightfully belong. Time has moved on and you should have moved on long ago, instead of extolling the virtues of your faded and precarious ‘upstairs downstairs’ memories.

You really are a dribbling idiot.

The ‘supine compliance’ to which I referred, you dull-brained dolt, was in reference to the default position adopted by the Thai who invariably kowtow to their medieval masters making up their ruling classes as a consequence of which they remain under their jackboot of exploitation.

Fuck knows how you manage to construe some sort of imaginary, recherche colonialism on my part but then, who knows just what goes on inside that walnut-sized brain of yours as you slip ever deeper into your senility.

You fucking stupid tit.

Originally Posted by taxexile

bld



although i am prepared to believe the reality might be different, the image gleaned from blds posts on this forum picture him as being of similar appearance to bluto, the perpetually scowling, heavily tattooed, unshaven low iq bruiser that always came off second best in the popeye cartoons.

possibly still wearing the dated double denim uniform typical of the middle aged illiterate meathead class, his loud throaty belches reeking of stale beer, scotch eggs and cigarette smoke, tapping his doc martins to the unsophisticated rhythms of status quo and headbanging to the downer rock beats and phrygian chordal progressions of metallica and judas priest, the poor frazzled gormless old throwback lives in an alcoholic haze of confusion, bewilderment and puzzlement, completely unaware of having being overtaken, lapped and left for dead as life passes him by and finds him hopelessly scrabbling for purpose, meaning and reason in a cloud of dust.

he just doesnt get it at all.

Are you perhaps lord Lucan? You and yer mate seem to occupy a place in yer heads that is of a bygone era. Every post. Exactly the same. Nothing interesting or nice to say. Strange cats