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    At least 129 killed after riot breaks out at football match

    At least 129 people have been killed after a riot at a football match in Indonesia, a police official has said.

    The violence broke out at a stadium in East Java during a game between Arema and Persebaya Surabaya.

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    Chaos broke out after the match ended 2-3 for the visitors - and according to local reports, thousands of Arema fans went on to the pitch after their team lost.

    It is also claimed that several Arema players who were still on the field at the time were attacked.

    More than 300 people were rushed to nearby hospitals, but many died on the way or in treatment.


    East Java Police Chief Nico Afinta said about 180 people are injured, but many of them are in a deteriorating condition.

    It is believed a stampede began when the police fired tear gas into the crowd.

    A local health official said many of the victims died of "chaos, overcrowding, trampling and suffocation".

    Two of those killed at the Kanjuruhan Stadium in Malang province are reportedly police officers.


    Indonesia's football league has now been suspended for a week, with Arema banned from hosting matches for the rest of the season. Further sanctions could follow.

    The chair of the country's football association, Mochamad Iriawan, has apologised to families of the victims.

    He added that the incident "really tarnishes the face of Indonesian football".


    More than a dozen vehicles were set alight within the grounds of the stadium, and many of them were police cars.

    At least 129 killed after riot breaks out at football match | World News | Sky News
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    He added that the incident "really tarnishes the face of Indonesian football".
    Really? I wasn't aware that it could be tarnished any further

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    Are you prepared to expand on your opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
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    At least 129 people have been killed after a riot at a football match in Indonesia
    Holy hell. How do people get that wrapped up in a game of football? I get that people have a passion for the sport, but it's not worth killing someone 'cos the result didn't go one's way. Damn, take the L and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post
    Are you prepared to expand on your opinion?
    Sure, ASEAN Cup matches in Ind between them and Malaysia show what to expect from Indon 'fans' time and again:



    Indonesian football fans display 'F**K YOU LOSERS' sign for visiting M'sians


    Indonesian football fans display 'F**K YOU LOSERS' sign for visiting M'sians - Mothership.SG - News from Singapore, Asia and around the world

    Indonesia apologises to Malaysia over football fan misbehaviour

    Malaysia went head-to-head with the Garuda squad in the Group G match for the 2022 World Cup/ 2023 Asian Cup Second Qualifying Round on Thursday night.
    But the showdown was marred by incidents of rioting by a portion of the 50,000 Indonesian fans, who also threw bottles, flares and pieces of metal from the upper section of the stadium onto Malaysian fans.
    The incident forced South Korean referee, Ko Hyungjin, to stop play for almost 10 minutes when both teams were tied at 2-2.
    The match resumed once the situation was brought under control and Malaysia came from behind to score a dramatic 3-2 win over Indonesia
    Just a moment...


    Yes, it's a long-standing rivalry but the Indons tend to go a bit too far

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Really? I wasn't aware that it could be tarnished any further
    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post
    Are you prepared to expand on your opinion?

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    174 and rising

    Ferli Hidayat, local police chief of Malang, said there were some 42,000 spectators at the game, all of whom were Aremanias because the organizer had banned Persebaya fans from entering the stadium in an effort to avoid brawls.



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    Unbelievable the number of people to die at a football game!

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    Indonesians has adjusted it down to 125 deads

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    Seems several reports are of pitch invasion which was countered with tear gas from the police and all hell broke lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prawnograph View Post
    aid there were some 42,000 spectators at the game
    To a stadium that holds 38,000

    Quote Originally Posted by happynz View Post
    Holy hell. How do people get that wrapped up in a game of football? I get that people have a passion for the sport, but it's not worth killing someone 'cos the result didn't go one's way.
    They didn't. It was a stampede/crush after police fired tear gas into the crowd.


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    Above the law’: Indonesia stampede puts focus on police force

    The Indonesian stadium stampede that left 131 people dead has sparked anger against the nation’s police, whom critics have long accused of using excessive violence.


    Police, who described the unrest on Saturday night as “riots”, said they tried to force supporters to return to the stands and fired tear gas after they invaded the pitch.


    But survivors — who had described the police as wielding batons and firing tear gas at helpless spectators — accuse them of overreacting, which led to a crush that became one of the deadliest disasters in football history.


    Indonesia’s police has, along with the military, been involved for decades in suppressing dissent, quelling riots, crushing radical Islamist groups and anchoring the government’s bloody fight against separatists in Papua, Aceh and East Timor.


    The police force has grown in power as an institution used for the security of the state since the fall of Indonesia’s military dictatorship under Suharto in the late 1990s.


    Data reviewed by AFP shows a force heavily armed and funded to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars for tactical riot equipment since Joko Widodo rose to the presidency in 2014.


    Spending on crowd control tactical gear — batons, tear gas, gas masks, shields and vehicles — has jumped in recent years, according to figures collected by Andri Prasetiyo, a researcher at NGO Trend Asia who analyses government purchases.


    They have spent close to a quarter of a billion dollars in less than a decade, he said, to kit out officers who use what experts say is often excessive force that almost always goes unpunished.


    In 2014, the national police spent $6 million on tear gas. In 2022, that figure rose to $10 million. In the period between, it spent more than $68 million to procure tear gas.


    In East Java, where the site of tragedy in the city of Malang is located, police spent $3.2 million on batons in January 2022 alone.


    “They use our tax money to kill us,” said Prasetiyo.


    The nine elite officers suspended after the incident remain under investigation and come from a unit notorious for its aggressive crowd control tactics.


    All are commanders in the Mobile Brigade Corps, or Brimob, a unit that acts as the special operations paramilitary unit for the Indonesian police force.


    Since the election of Widodo, they have been used to crush government opponents, activists say. Their coffers have since been heavily buffeted to militarise the force.


    “In the past the most brutal force in the military were the special forces. I think they (Brimob) are now getting more notoriously known as a special force of the military,” said Usman Hamid, director of Amnesty International Indonesia.


    “They are being used as a stick.”


    A national police force spokesman was not immediately available for comment.


    – Souring public sentiment –


    While Saturday’s stampede appeared to have little to do with politics, the displeasure of a society with its leaders can often be heard on the football terraces and some Arema FC fans were yelling obscenities at police as the chaos began.


    Indonesia’s Commission for Disappeared and Victims of Violence, or Kontras, recorded 677 incidents of violence by police between July 2021 and June this year that left 59 people dead and 928 injured.


    In the years before the Covid-19 pandemic, such incidents spiked. In 2018 to 2019, Kontras recorded 643 cases of violence. In the following year, it recorded 921 cases.


    At least 10 protesters were unlawfully killed in post-election riots in 2019, most of them by gunshot, in cases that were not brought to justice, according to rights groups.


    “The police feel like they are above the law and can do anything they deem necessary,” Ardi Manto Adiputra, deputy director of human rights group Imparsial, told AFP.


    – ‘Not fair or just’ –


    Many Indonesians fear this cycle of violence will never end without punishment for officers.


    A key problem in bringing them to justice is little oversight inside or outside the force and close ties between the police and the government, Fatia Maulidiyanti, coordinator for Kontras, told AFP.


    Experts say Widodo has helped place police allies in key positions after the force supported his most recent election bid, and the officers’ presence within the Indonesian elite is blurring the lines.


    It means little action is taken against officers who commit alleged crimes, said Maulidiyanti.


    “The sanctions against guilty officers are not fair or just. They are rarely brought to the criminal court,” she said.


    Transparency International ranks the national police force as one of the most corrupt institutions in Indonesia.


    Mochamad Iriawan, the president of Indonesia’s football association — which has refused to criticise the police over the stampede — is the former police chief of Jakarta.


    The country’s intelligence chief was deputy of the national police force.


    And the head of the country’s anti-graft commission was chief of the national police’s security maintenance agency.


    “If we don’t do something, I think Indonesia is going to become a police state,” said Amnesty International’s Hamid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by happynz View Post
    Holy hell. How do people get that wrapped up in a game of football?
    (Fan)atics can at times go off the rails so not surprised this sort of thing happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    In East Java, where the site of tragedy in the city of Malang is located, police spent $3.2 million on batons in January 2022 alone.
    Hang on a second.

    $3.2 million dollars on police batons.

    estimate $50 each.

    that's 640,000 batons.

    the entire population of Malang is less than a million. Let's round up to an even million.

    that's more than 1 baton per 2 people, not police, people.

    In 2012 Washington Post reported that Indonesia has approx 1 police per 222 head of population.

    Therefore we have 4500 police in Malang meaning each policeman was issued 142 Batons in Jan 2022....


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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    $3.2 million dollars on police batons.

    estimate $50 each.

    that's 640,000 batons.
    Hmm--

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    In East Java, where the site of tragedy in the city of Malang is located, police spent $3.2 million on batons in January 2022 alone.
    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    Hang on a second.

    $3.2 million dollars on police batons.

    estimate $50 each.

    that's 640,000 batons.

    the entire population of Malang is less than a million. Let's round up to an even million.

    that's more than 1 baton per 2 people, not police, people.

    In 2012 Washington Post reported that Indonesia has approx 1 police per 222 head of population.

    Therefore we have 4500 police in Malang meaning each policeman was issued 142 Batons in Jan 2022....
    East Javan police, not just Malang police.
    Last edited by cyrille; 06-10-2022 at 07:57 AM. Reason: added mk quote

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    East Javan police, not just Malang police.

    Fair enough, my maths is out a little on that assumption.

    However, I think the illustration still serves.

    Either Ahmad the police procurement officer made a good windfall for himself, or a bunch of East Javan police received many multiples of an item they only need one of.

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    Fair enough.

    (David, please, spare us the 'truncheon meat' 'gags').

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