Thread: Swiss man kills armed Thai burglar, gets arrested

Talking of which CSI: Vegas debuted last night.

I'm sure it's not a patch on CSI: Moo 4 Ban Khamin

Originally Posted by Mendip

Another part of my reasoning was that she has a vicious temper and I wouldn't be altogether sure she wouldn't shoot me during an argument of we had a gun in the house.

Smart Move Mendy. I had quite a few guns while wife and I lived in the US (Sold before We came). Even taught my wife how to shoot my Benelli 12 gauge semi Auto Shotgun. My uncle and I had some good laughs but she did really well. In US no fear of having a gun. HERE.....NFW. Safer to have a crossbow or a big ass knife.

Bit leftfield. Perhaps the chap was a Ma Song worshiper and the Swiss chap didn't like that fact he had the cheek to carry a gun.


Phuket Vegetarian Festival takes to the streets, without face piercings


In accordance with requests from provincial officials for Ma Song and their devotees to abide by COVID prevention measures, the shrine asked all Ma Song to avoid wearing any piercings, the likes of which had previously made the Phuket Vegetarian Festival famous around the world, with spirit mediums sporting beach umbrellas, bicycles and even handguns protruding through their faces.

I think it is interesting that if the gun went off, why did he have to go wake up the wife? She must've really gotten plastered.

Udon Thani police searches home of Swiss national who killed armed intruder at his house after mother of slain man claims almost 300,000 baht was missing

The Udon Thani police raided and searched the home of a Swiss national today who admitted to killing what he called an armed intruder to his home on October 3rd.


The raid followed the mother of the slain man claiming there was more to the story than the Swiss national was stating and claimed that almost 300,000 baht her son had on him from a recent land sale had gone missing following the incident.

Today’s raid was led by Pol. Lt. Col. Noppadon Wisetsri, the Deputy Superintendent of the Nakha Police Station in Udon Thani. The raid was given the green light by the Udon Thani Provincial Court, which issued a search warrant with the order number of 142/2564.


Police raided the home of 63-year-old Rudolf Joseph Rothy, a Swiss national, around 2:00 P.M. in Ban Khamin, part of the Kudsa sub-district in Mueang Udon Thani. Mr. Rudolf and his wife were not home during the raid and so police had the village headsman, identified as Mr. Buasen Sriyangkabutr, and a prominent local monk, Phra Lek Sareerup, 65, accompany them for the raid for transparency reasons. The reason for the raid, according to Udon Thani police, were claims by the mother of the victim, Khan Chantarakhantri, that her son had nearly 300,000 baht from a recent land sale go missing during the confrontation with Rudolf.

Police reportedly did not find any evidence of these claims at the raid but stated the matter was still under investigation. They also stated that they would fully investigate the incident and both sides’ statements and claims to get to the bottom of what had really happened.


According to Mr. Rudolf’s prior statement to Udon Thani police, the intruder, Sathien Chantarakhantri, 53, had climbed a wall to his home near midnight on October 3rd and threatened him for money with a firearm. Mr. Rudolf said he refused and disarmed the intruder, punching him and tying him up, immediately calling the police and village headsman afterward. He claims he only meant to stop the man from hurting him and his family and not to kill the man. This story can be seen in the above reference articles.


The statements from Sathien’s family, however, as can be seen in the reference articles above, claimed that the slain man had no money issues and had just sold land for almost 300,000 baht and had the money physically on him at the time of the incident with Mr. Rudolf. According to Khan Chantarakhantri, the mother of Sathien, Sathien had a not-so-secret affair with Rudolf’s wife, and the confrontation between the two men was regarding this issue and not a robbery attempt.

Rudolph was initially charged for assaulting others to death while the deceased was also charged for trespassing at night, carrying a firearm in public, and attempted murder.


Mr. Buasen Sriyangkabutr, the village headsman, spoke with the associated Thai press today at the scene of the raid and stated that he was the first person called to the scene of the incident and stated that Mr. Rudolf’s story that was given to him matched that later given to police. He also stated that the wife of Mr. Rudolf has stated to him that she had never met the slain intruder before and did not know him, nor had been involved in any sort of relationship.


Police continue to investigate the incident. Associated Thai Press attempted to speak to Mr. Rudolf and his wife about the claims from the family of Sathien on Tuesday, October 5th, but Rudolf declined to comment, referring the matter to his legal team and the court system.

Udon Thani police searches home of Swiss national who killed armed intruder at his house after mother of slain man claims almost 300,000 baht was missing - The Pattaya News

Originally Posted by misskit

while the deceased was also charged for trespassing at night, carrying a firearm in public, and attempted murder.

I didn't know that police could charge a deceased individual. I can see why they have, just found it strange.

The latest story is even more unbelievable. The boyfriend goes to his girlfriend’s house while her husband is home with a loaded gun AND 300,000 baht in his pocket. WTF?

One can't help but think the victim's relatives are making it up as they go along.

mum : He didn't need money he had 300,000 Baht from a recent land sale
Police: Where's this money then?
mum: It was in his pocket, oh gosh, it's been stolen.

Trying to save face and digging a deeper hole...

Perhaps he was going to buy the Farang off and brought the persuader with him

Where's Inspector Sid when you need him?

Originally Posted by misskit

Police reportedly did not find any evidence of these claims at the raid but stated the matter was still under investigation. They also stated that they would fully investigate the incident and both sides’ statements and claims to get to the bottom of what had really happened.

Good to see that the police hasn't already taken sides

Originally Posted by panama hat

Good to see that the police hasn't already taken sides

Outwardly, at least.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Good to see that the police hasn't already taken sides

Now then, about the missing Baht 300,000 ....

Originally Posted by Shutree

Now then, about the missing Baht 300,000 ....

I don't believe I have commented on this type of thread before but in this case I am intrigued and thought I would play the game and put forward my hypothesis.

The Thai guy sold his land and then did what I believe most Thai's would do went out to show off his money got pissed and others thought it a good opportunity to start gambling so they could fleece the drunk Thai guy.
So once he has lost all his money he thinks (probably a stretch) I will go and rob the farang he'll have money.

He gets his gun and gets into the farang's house by climbing over the wall. He is confronted by the farang who seeing the guy is drunk takes a calculated risk and goes for it, the gun that is.
The gun goes off missing both but the farang is able to overpower the Thai guy who drunk and worn out from climbing the fence doesn't put up much of a fight. The farang gains the upper hand and taking no chances gives the Thai guy a flogging then ties him up. He then takes the gun and disposes of it so it can't be used against him in the future by throwing it his pond.

He wakes his missus up, hard to believe she would sleep through a gunshot but Thais do like to sleep, and gets her to call the Pu Yai and the cops.

Meanwhile the Thai guy is struggling to breathe as he is hogtied on the ground and being drunk he either pukes and chokes or has a heart seizure and dies.

I await the autopsy results with bated breath.

And where's the 300K?

^Lost in a card game if you read Detective Senior Sergeant Ootai's police report more carefully

Originally Posted by Headworx

^Lost in a card game if you read Detective Senior Sergeant Ootai's police report more carefully

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Originally Posted by ootai

So once he has lost all his money he thinks (probably a stretch)

Originally Posted by Saint Willy

And where's the 300K?

Originally Posted by Headworx

^Lost in a card game if you read Detective Senior Sergeant Ootai's police report more carefully

SW I said he went out got drunk and ended up gambling and then "once he has lost all his money"

HW I never said anything about a card game but it could have been as that would fit "gambling".

Originally Posted by Headworx

^Lost in a card game if you read Detective Senior Sergeant Ootai's police report more carefully

That's "Horatio Ootai" to you.

Originally Posted by ootai

put forward my hypothesis.

Impressive sleuthing!

This is what TDCSI crime solving is all about

Originally Posted by Joe 90

Impressive sleuthing!

This is what TDCSI crime solving is all about

I agree . . . NZD$10 on ootai being correct

Just for my edification, do thais with "no money problems" often sell land?

The argument is that he had no money problems because he'd sold land.

The statements from Sathien’s family, however, as can be seen in the reference articles above, claimed that the slain man had no money issues and had just sold land for almost 300,000

Originally Posted by nidhogg

Just for my edification, do thais with "no money problems" often sell land?

Yes, the difference is that those without money problems sell it for a profit rather than a loss.

Any update from our CSI:TD gumshoes?