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    Quote Originally Posted by waah
    I used to work for the CRB back in Blighty... and it is fookin hard for anyone to get any info out of them with out having a set of meetings to decide whether the company who need the info is responsible enough to have it...

    So the chances of the boys in brown getting it is........... slim to none
    Quite.

    So does anyone have any actual idea how Thailand proposes to investigate the background of 1000 random teachers??

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    They will make each one under investigation apply for there personal records from crb? Probably lock them up while they are waiting for it to be processed?

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    ^I can see CMN's comment to you on another thread has worked wonders!

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    does anyone have any actual idea how Thailand proposes to investigate the background of 1000 random teachers??
    Start with the morons at Ajarn Forum.

    I have no problem with searches -- even random searches. If you're a Boy Scout, you've got nothing to worry about, in theory.

    If the police confiscated your computer for 24 hours, would you sweat?
    Last edited by Texpat; 01-11-2007 at 02:27 PM.

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    ^ no, but i'd be bladdy well inconvenienced!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    They will make each one under investigation apply for there personal records from crb?
    can't be done DD.
    you can not apply for a CRB report as an individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    If the police confiscated your computer for 24 hours, would you sweat?
    I think my wife might.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    If the police confiscated your computer for 24 hours, would you sweat?
    Yes, cos I think if you look deeply enough everyone has something illegal on their computer. Don't forget pornography is illegal in Thailand and I've got shed-loads of that

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    What about if it's your own personal porn? ie me and the girlfriend, does that count
    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    you can not apply for a CRB report as an individual.
    Under the data protection act you can, it used to cost 25 quid and criminal records office had to send everything they had on their pcs about you.

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    ^ illegal software, pictures of people who you did not have their consent etc etc

    CMN is right, only organisations can have access to this info..
    However I think you can ask the local old bill for a record of any charges/sentenses given in ur home town...?!?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Under the data protection act you can, it used to cost 25 quid and criminal records office had to send everything they had on their pcs about you.
    that's nt CRB check.

    it's the one you already need to get a non-imm B (allegedly)
    it isn't as full.

    it's the one that new teachers have to get and doesn't include a lot of convictions, particularly sppent ones.

    costs a tenner by the way.
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    True, CRB was set up as a new-ish govt agency for civil servants/teachers/cops n the like, to check on em b4 they started workin....
    But as an organisation you can ask for access to that info too

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    Quote Originally Posted by obsidian
    how old are you, norton?
    Can't tell but if you recognize the avatar, subtract 7 from it's release date and you will know BD.

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    From the UK police

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    I need a police check for immigration/emigration purposes, what do I have to do? Answer

    The police can make checks of what is held on their computer systems about individuals and it is known as a subject access request. This is not a criminal records check. The police check will either provide a certificate stating that there is currently no information held about you on the police computer systems or it will provide a list of convictions.
    There are three possible ways of obtaining the form. You can write/telephone the force involved and they will post one out to you, if you are outside the UK you can ask a friend or relative to collect one from the local police station in the force area concerned or some forces may have the form on their website that you can download.
    By law these checks have to be done in a maximum of 40 days. The cost of one of these types of checks varies from Police Force Area to Area, but is usually around £10.
    The fee needs to be paid in sterling so if you do not have an English bank account you would need to ask a friend or relative to pay the fee for you. They would need to send in a cheque with your details to the relevant police force so that the form and the fee can be matched. If you do not have a relative or friend in the UK then you can ask your local bank about an International Money Order (there will probably be a fee) but do not send cash.
    You must complete the form yourself as it is your data (unless a child). In order to complete the form you need to provide two forms of identification, one with your name and date of birth and preferably a photograph (passport or driving licence) and the other with your current address or the address you lived at whilst in the UK (a recent utility bill or bank statement). Photocopies are accepted by some forces but not all (check prior to sending) and they must be of a good quality . If there is any suspicion of forgery then the check will not be carried out and the form will be posted back to you.
    The form can be sent to your address abroad and it does not cost extra. It is advisable but not obligatory to send the form to the police force whose area you resided in in the UK.
    All forms are sent to New Scotland Yard and the results are sent out on tamper proof paper and cannot be fast tracked, so apply in plenty of time.
    The name of the form and procedure may vary slightly from force to force.




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    How can I get a check of my criminal records for pre-employment vetting purposes? Answer

    The Criminal Records Bureau (CRB) is a Central Body which exists to allow employers (including educational establishments) who are registered with them to obtain checks on employees/students. If the employer is not registered then you can apply to Disclosure Scotland for a Basic Disclosure, see below for more information.
    There are two types of checks that the CRB can currently do.
    Standard disclosure, mainly available to those working with children and vulnerable adults shows current and spent convictions, caution, warnings and reprimands held on Police National Computer (PNC). It costs £31 for standard disclosure
    Enhanced disclosure, highest level of check for those responsible, caring for ,training or supervising children or vulnerable adults contains same as above but also includes relevant and proportionate information held by local police forces. It costs £36 for enhanced disclosure. See the website in related information for more details.
    The CRB now offer a service where you can check the progress of the checks online - Criminal Records Bureau - Online Tracking Service
    If you want the check for pre-employment vetting purposes and you are not required to declare spent convictions then you can apply for basic disclosure through Disclosure Scotland. Although based in Scotland it is the sister organisation to the Criminal Records Bureau and does criminal records checks for individuals from England and Wales as well as Scotland. The Basic Disclosure check provides individuals with a list of only current convictions that they should declare if the employer has no exemption to the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974, see website in related information.
    If you want a check for emigration or visa purposes then please see Q542.





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    Well, if it was filmed in black and white, you must be old!

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    There u go then.. the subject access check is from the local old bill, and the CRB bit os the govt agency... I know coz I used to work for em!

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    When I lived in the UK it was always done thru Scotland Yard, then again there weren't that many computers in them days like there is now.

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    The old bill still do some local checks, this CRB bit just puts control under the scope of a govt agency now, specifically to do all the bobbins needed for checking backgrounds of all potential govt employees.. and then they decided they could make some money off it by letting other companies use them to check thier potential employees...

    I think the reason they started to do that was coz the project was so expensive, and they wanted to try and reap some cash back!

    I even had to have one done b4 i went to work for em

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    Quote Originally Posted by waah
    There u go then.. the subject access check is from the local old bill, and the CRB bit os the govt agency
    yes.
    they are completely different things.

    I have just interviewed a chap who has an old conviction for possession of a tiny amount of cannabis. (he was open enough about this, I also know the guy from a few years back when he was last here hardly the criminal type)
    He worked as a teacher in the uk for 6 months before the CRB check came through.
    The school weren't overly bothered owing to the age and lack of seriousness of the offenc.

    Not so sure how the Thai authorities would react so I told him to get a subject access report instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    What about if it's your own personal porn? ie me and the girlfriend, does that count
    i thought porn was suppose to be erotic?

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    ^don't worry, I think the rottweiler joins in at some point.

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    probably after the gf falls asleep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    if you recognize the avatar, subtract 7 from it's release date and you will know
    Is that The African Queen, with Humphry Bogart and Katharine Hepburn? That was the year my Mum and Dad got married.

    Cheers!

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    Paedos wishing to take the pulse of Thai law enforcement operations should make a beeline for Teakdoor.com.

    You won't find this level of tips about ongoing police action on Thaivisa.

    We gather all salient reported info from across the world wide web ! This may help you avoid PC Plod's latest crackdown

    Welcome pervert-guests !
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    hahaha

    the what?

    the pulse of Thai law enforcement operations
    do they still have one?

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