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    That is hilarious. I bet the Americans were grinning like cheshire cats when they turned that down.

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    U.S., Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, and Pakistan Agree to Establish Quadrilateral Diplomatic Platform

    Friday, 16/07/2021

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    Representatives of the United States, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan and Pakistan agreed in principle to establish a new quadrilateral diplomatic platform focused on enhancing regional connectivity.

    The parties consider long-term peace and stability in Afghanistan critical to regional-connectivity and agree that peace and regional connectivity are mutually reinforcing.

    Recognizing the historic opportunity to open flourishing international trade routes, the parties intend to cooperate to expand trade, build transit links and strengthen business-to-business ties. The parties agreed to meet in the coming months to determine the modalities of this cooperation with mutual consensus."

    U.S., Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, and Pakistan Agree to Establish Quadrilateral Diplomatic Platform - Ministry of Foreign Affairs - Islamic Republic of Afghanistan

    A tad short and presumably the current Afghanistan government, but something maybe materialise.
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    The parties agreed to meet in the coming months to determine the modalities of this cooperation with mutual consensus."
    Translation: Everyone knows the talitubbies will be back to the old tricks in no time.

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    Department Press Briefing – July 19, 2021

    Ned Price, Department Spokesperson


    July 19, 2021


    "QUESTION:

    Good afternoon, everyone. Happy Monday. Welcome back. We have a few things at the top, so we’ll get right going.


    At the President’s direction, the Department of State is working to relocate interested and eligible Afghan nationals and their families who have been approved through the Special Immigrant Visa, or SIV, program.


    As the next step in that process, I am pleased to announce that the Department of Defense has agreed, at the request of the Department of State, to allow the use of Fort Lee, Virginia, as the initial relocation site for the pool of applicants who are closest to completing special immigrant processing. These are brave Afghans and their families, as we have said, whose service to the United States has been certified by the embassy in Kabul and who have completed thorough SIV security vetting processes. They will be provided temporary housing and services as they complete the final steps in the special immigrant process.


    We expect to begin the first relocation flights before the end of July, as you heard from the President. Approximately 2,500 Afghans and family members are currently eligible to finish special immigrant processing in the United States, and we’ll certainly provide more details as they become available."


    Department Press Briefing - July 19, 2021 - United States Department of State

    "700 are Afghan nationals who supported military efforts, and they are being processed through the Special Immigrant Visa Program, which was created in 2009. The rest of the applicants are family members."

    Afghan refugees who aided US to be housed at Fort Lee military base with families while awaiting final visa approval — RT USA News

    Only a few 100,000s to go.

    Here is a list of the 44 ISAF member countries (ranked by numbers of personnel):
    Country name:
    United States
    United Kingdom
    Germany
    France
    Italy
    Canada
    Poland
    Turkey
    Australia
    Spain
    Romania
    Georgia
    Denmark
    Belgium
    Bulgaria
    Czech Republic
    Norway
    Sweden
    Hungary
    Slovakia
    Croatia
    Portugal
    Albania
    Lithuania
    Macedonia
    Latvia
    Estonia
    New Zealand
    Finland
    Azerbaijan
    Slovenia
    Greece
    Armenia
    Mongolia
    Singapore
    Montenegro
    United Arab Emirates
    Ukraine
    Luxembourg
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Ireland
    Jordan
    Iceland
    Austria

    Countries Currently Contributing Troops to ISAF

    No news if any will follow the leader, so far.

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    I wonder if Russia did a similar thing when it also left with its tail between its legs?

    Nah, only joking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I wonder if Russia did a similar thing when it also left with its tail between its legs?

    Nah, only joking.
    A good joke...
    Not having similarly devoted his trustful allies (read satellites - or are there any other names for such sacrifice?), the poor papa Brezhnev did not come on the idea to involve them in his just war...

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    "The Beast is a 1988 American war film directed by Kevin Reynolds and written by William Mastrosimone, based on his play Nanawatai.

    The film follows the crew of a Soviet T-55 tank who became lost during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan"

    "Lost", in so many ways.

    For the full movie:

    1988 The Beast
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    Erdogan Urges Taliban to Stop ‘Occupying’ Afghanistan, Says Ankara Can Run Kabul Airport if US Pays

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    World17:58 GMT 20.07.2021(updated 19:02 GMT 20.07.2021)

    "Last month, after it was revealed that Turkey may stay on in Afghanistan to ensure security at the country’s main airport once US and other NATO forces are gone, the Taliban warned Ankara that doing so would be “a big mistake".

    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has called on the Taliban to end its “occupation” of the areas of Afghanistan which are under its control, and indicated that Ankara remains ready to take control of Kabul airport if Washington provides diplomatic, logistical and financial support.

    “Afghanistan is facing a new period at the moment – there are three players there: NATO, America and Turkey. The United States made the decision to leave and wanted us to manage the airport, which we have already been managing for 20 years. We view this situation positively, but we have our own conditions,” Erdogan said, speaking to reporters in Northern Cyprus on Tuesday.

    “First: America will be on our side in diplomatic negotiations. Second: logistics capabilities will be mobilised for us as much as possible. The resources that are there must be transferred to Turkey. Furthermore, there are financing issues and administrative issues. The USA must support Turkey on these questions. If our conditions are met, we will think about taking over the management of Kabul airport,” the Turkish president said.

    Acknowledging the Taliban’s “discomfort” with Turkey’s airport security scheme, Erdogan assured that the Turkish side would discuss the process with the Islamist militant group, noting that the militants who previously successfully negotiated with the US in Doha “should hold these talks much more comfortably with Turkey. It’s possible that we will discuss these issues with them well and reach an agreement because Turkey does not have an opposition to their beliefs,” he said.

    Erdogan also suggested that Turkey has always stood with Afghanistan against “imperial powers", including in the past two decades. He did not specify to which “imperial powers” he was referring.

    In separate remarks made on Monday before his departure for Northern Cyprus, which Turkey has controlled since 1974, Erdogan called on the Taliban to “end the occupation of the soil of their brothers". He added that the Islamist militant group’s vision of how the country should be governed was not the way Muslims should treat other Muslims.

    Turkey, which has more than 500 troops in Afghanistan at the moment as part of the soon-to-be disbanded NATO mission, has been negotiating with the US on staying in the country to guard Kabul’s Hamid Karzai International Airport when other alliance members - including the US - leave next month. The proposal was made at the NATO summit in Brussels in mid-June by Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar.

    The Taliban warned Turkey against taking the guard duty, with a spokesman for the group suggesting that it was “not appropriate for an Islamic country to be at enmity with another Islamic country on behalf of the occupying infidels". The spokesman stressed that the Taliban has “made it clear to the occupiers that it does not accept the presence of foreign forces in any part of Afghanistan".

    The Kabul government welcomed the Turkish plans, however, saying it would be an "essential" way to continue NATO support for Afghanistan.

    Russia called Turkey’s plans a “violation” of the previously reached US agreement with the Taliban, and expressed doubts whether a Turkish deployment would have any impact on the security situation in the war-torn nation.

    On Monday, Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said that Washington and Ankara were finalising the “modalities and details of exactly what [Turkey’s involvement is] going to look like.” Expressing the US' gratitude to Turkey over its offer, Kirby said that “security [at the airport] is going to be critical to our ability, any nation’s ability, to have a diplomatic presence in Kabul.”

    In addition to Afghanistan, Turkey is engaged in several other military conflicts abroad, illegally deploying troops to Syria, providing military and arms support to the Tripoli government in Libya, sending military assistance to Azerbaijan in that country’s recent war against Armenian forces in Nagorno-Karabakh, launching airstrikes in northern Iraq, and engaging in a maritime dispute with Greece and Egypt over maritime boundaries in the eastern Mediterranean Sea."


    https://sputniknews.com/world/202107201083424794-erdogan-urges-taliban-to-stop-occupying-afghanistan-says-ankara-can-run-kabul-airport-if-us-pays/


    Asian Cup Final

    Full Time:

    Afghanistan 1 - ameristan 0

    Substitutions by ameristan.

    (11 ameristan players taken off in tears, stumbling in the tunnel to the showers.

    Replaced with the, beaten by Russia at last years Euro 2020, reserve "Ankara" squad.

    According to ameristan it's in the "rules")

    Some are suggesting the new squad are too inexperienced and their Pirelli boots/crampons have been previously banned, due to "human rights/excessive carbon content" rules)

    U.S. leaves its last Afghan base, effectively ending operations-crampons-jpg


    Ongoing Extra Time:

    Afghanistan 2 - ameristan 0

    Will it go to penalties?

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    The Ankara squad may regret trying to stick their grubby snouts in that trough.
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    Erdogan the Useful Idiot.

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    Erdogan considers his people to be expendable, he won't give a fuck.

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    As "ageing one" suggests, via his red star, the two teams are so similar.

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Afghanistan 1 - ameristan 0
    Both engaged in multiple citizens being shot daily, both have competing political parties alleging they are the legitimate government, both in the midst of a financial crisis, both have a history of being defeated in wars ....

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    Not quite sure what hoohoo thinks he is scoring, but right now it's Taliban 1 Everyone else 0.

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    18 military personnel die in Turkmenistan, circumstances unclear


    ASHGABAT (Agencies): Eighteen military personnel, including a major and a lieutenant, have died in Turkmenistan amid reports about rising tensions along the border with Afghanistan, where Taliban militants have been on an offensive to capture districts in the region.


    Two separate sources told RFE/RL on July 20 that of 18 deceased military personnel, six had been returned to their relatives in the eastern Lebap region that borders Afghanistan.


    An RFE/RL correspondent in the region confirmed the information, adding that he visited burial sites of two soldiers in two villages in the region on July 19 and was able to talk to the relatives of other soldiers who were brought to the region in coffins.


    Officials told relatives that the soldiers died in a mass traffic accident near Ashgabat, the capital, and did not allow them to see the dead men, who were buried in closed coffins.


    It remains unclear if a massive deadly traffic accident with the involvement of military vehicles happened near Ashgabat in recent days as the tightly controlled and isolated Central Asian nation’s government is known for its reluctance to talk to media.


    The sources, however, told RFE/RL that the bodies were not brought to Lebap from Ashgabat, but from the neighboring Mary region that lies next to Afghanistan and where a major border crossing with Afghanistan, Serhetabat, is located.


    One of the sources who is close to the Defense Ministry told RFE/RL that two of the six men buried in Lebap were an army major and a lieutenant.


    Neither the Defense Mi-nistry nor the Interior Mini-stry would comment to RF-E/RL about the situation.


    There have been traffic accidents in the past in which military personnel were killed. Last September, at least five soldiers died in a traffic accident in the Mary region. Independent media reports said at the time that 11 soldiers died in the accident.


    There have also been several deadly incidents along the Turkmen-Afghan border in recent years as well. In June 2018, shoot-outs near Serhetabat left 25 Turkmen soldiers dead.


    In recent weeks, Turkmenistan has been sending heavy weaponry, helicopters, and other aircraft to areas along the 800-kilometer Turkmen-Afghan border as the security situation in Afghanistan has deteriorated sharply with Taliban fighters advancing on provincial centers and even some border crossings.


    Hundreds of Afghans, including soldiers, local police, and regular citizens, have reportedly fled into other neighboring Central Asia countries, including Tajikistan.


    On July 5, the border guard service reported that more than 1,000 Afghan troops had crossed into Tajikistan over the previous 24 hours.


    The United States has announced the withdrawal of all of its forces by August 31. Earlier this month, U.S. forces vacated their largest base in Afghanistan at Bagram, north of Kabul.


    Amid the pullout, the Taliban have pushed into several areas and now control about one-third of the country’s 421 districts and district centers.


    The rapid withdrawal of U.S. forces, and the Taliban battlefield successes, are stoking concerns that the Western-backed government in Kabul may collapse.


    https://thefrontierpost.com/18-milit...ances-unclear/

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Erdogan the Useful Idiot.
    Hmm

    Only if he gets paid

    He is a tragi comical Trumpesque maniac and a little too close to Europe

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    18 military personnel die in Turkmenistan, circumstances unclear
    And so it begins...

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    the soldiers died in a mass traffic accident near Ashgabat
    Judging from watching travel on road videos of the area, somewhat understandable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Judging from watching travel on road videos of the area, somewhat understandable.
    You can always trust hoohoo to believe the party line...

    Officials told relatives that the soldiers died in a mass traffic accident near Ashgabat

    <snip>

    The sources, however, told RFE/RL that the bodies were not brought to Lebap from Ashgabat, but from the neighboring Mary region that lies next to Afghanistan and where a major border crossing with Afghanistan, Serhetabat, is located.

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    Tajikistan says it's ready to take in up to 100,000 Afghan refugees

    DUSHANBE, July 23 - Tajikistan is preparing to take in up to 100,000 refugees from neighbouring Afghanistan where fighting has escalated as United States-led troops withdraw, a senior Tajik official said on Friday.


    Taliban insurgents are gaining control of more and more territory in Afghanistan, which the Pentagon estimates now extends to over half of Afghanistan's district centres.


    Imomali Ibrohimzoda, deputy head of Tajikistan's emergencies committee, told a briefing on Friday the former Soviet republic was already building two large warehouses to store supplies for refugees in the Khatlon and Gorno-Badakhshan provinces adjacent to the border.


    A few hundred Afghan civilians fled to Tajikistan this month but the Dushanbe government says they have already returned to Afghanistan.

    https://www.qatarday.com/News/tajiki...efugees/2038/0

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    The problem with that is, as we well know, that the talitubbies will just melt into the crowd...

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Tajikistan says it's ready to take in up to 100,000 Afghan refugees
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The problem with that is, as we well know, that the talitubbies will just melt into the crowd...
    They can have our afghans

    100 % taliban free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    They can have our afghans

    100 % taliban free.
    How many % of mudjahedin?

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    I would gladly swap your Afghanis for the same amount of our Somali's.

    Our Afghanis make nice kebabs, and polite Uber drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    No news if any will follow the leader, so far.
    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Canada
    Special immigration measures will help Canada resettle thousands of Afghans who worked with military, embassy

    Meaka Raman-Wilms
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    Published 1 day ago

    "Thousands of Afghan nationals who worked for Canadian troops and diplomatic staff will be allowed to resettle in Canada through a fast-tracked process, as part of a new federal program intended to protect them from Taliban reprisals.

    Three cabinet ministers on Friday described the program to reporters. They said that they could not provide many details, for security reasons.

    The announcement comes after weeks in which the government faced increasing pressure to act in order to protect the lives of Afghans whose association with Canada now puts them at risk, as U.S. troops withdraw from Afghanistan and the Taliban expands its territory.

    Immigration Minister Marco Mendicino acknowledged that the situation is urgent.

    “The risk of retribution from the Taliban is grave,” Mr. Mendicino said, adding that people who worked with Canada, as well as their families, are often subject to intensifying threats of violence, torture and death. “Not only does Canada owe them a debt of gratitude, we have a moral obligation to do right by them,” he said.

    Mr. Mendicino, joined by Foreign Affairs Minister Marc Garneau and Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan, said the program involves “special immigration measures,” and will include not only Afghans who worked for Canada, but also their families. He said that he anticipates the numbers of resettled people will be “in the several thousands.”

    The government said the new program will offer a “path to protection in Canada” and will allow certain Afghan nationals to be in the country shortly. However, Mr. Mendicino did not provide a time frame, or details of what the protection would consist of.

    The announcement was welcome news for Roya Shams, a graduate student in Ottawa, who said she has been terrified for her family in Afghanistan.

    “To some extent it’s hopeful,” she said, adding that she is relieved to see the government taking action, though she is still anxious about the situation.


    Ms. Shams said her father, who was an Afghan police officer and an advocate for girls’ education, used to work “side by side” with the Canadian military.

    She said he was assassinated in 2011, and now her family in Kandahar are in danger of Taliban reprisals.


    “I fear for their lives,” she said. “The minute [the Taliban] come, I have no hope.”

    Mr. Mendicino said the government’s focus is on those who have had a “significant and enduring relationship with the government of Canada in Afghanistan,” and that this includes interpreters who worked with Canadian forces, current and former locally engaged staff at the Canadian embassy, and their families.

    Asked how many people are eligible, and when they will arrive, Mr. Mendicino said work is underway to identify eligible Afghans. He added later that the government is making an effort to be flexible and inclusive in the requirements.
    The government’s new program follows weeks of pleas from various quarters.

    Former Afghan drivers who worked for Canada
    recently told The Globe and Mail that they’re in danger, and that they have been asking the Canadian government to bring them to safety. And a former employee of the Canadian embassy in Afghanistan said he has been pleading with Ottawa to help get his family out of Kabul.

    Andrew Rusk, the co-founder of Not Left Behind, an organization recently formed to advocate for action on the issue, said he was generally pleased with Friday’s announcement.

    “But it shouldn’t have taken dozens of veterans and other Canadians to push the government to do the right thing,” said Mr. Rusk, whose sister-in-law was Nichola Goddard, the first woman to die in a combat role with the Canadian military.

    Mr. Rusk said he and his wife, Kate, read in the news that the interpreter who had worked with Ms. Goddard was still in Afghanistan and needed to get to safety. That was what led him to start Not Left Behind, which consists of veterans, family members of veterans and others.

    “Anybody that helped Canada previously that isn’t brought out has a target on their back,” Mr. Rusk said. “The Taliban isn’t going to care what your individual circumstances were.”

    Canadian armed forces withdrew from Afghanistan in 2014.


    In a statement, Conservative Party Leader Erin O’Toole said that the resettlement program comes too late. “The Liberal government should have made this announcement weeks ago,” he said. “The Americans made it clear that they would be leaving Afghanistan months ago, and the rise of the Taliban was an expected result.”

    The NDP’s defence critic, Randall Garrison, and its immigration critic, Jenny Kwan, released a statement saying these measures are “long overdue” and that it was “unconscionable” for Canada not to have done more already.

    “The Liberals’ scramble to change their tune is demonstrated by the fact that the government is still unsure how many Afghans are eligible to come to Canada,” the statement said.

    Ms. Shams said she doesn’t know yet if her family will be resettled in Canada under the new program, but that she hopes they’ll qualify. She said her heart goes out to everyone who is in the same situation.

    “Right now my family needs rescue,” Ms. Shams said. “I hope the Canadian government would consider everything that’s happening and bring my family to safety.”


    Special immigration measures will help Canada resettle thousands of Afghans who worked with military, embassy - The Globe and MailOnly took 7 years to show some compassion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I would gladly swap your Afghanis for the same amount of our Somali's
    Hmm

    No

    Never

    Not even if you offered to take all our swedes too

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