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    29 unemployed bargirls in Pattaya arrested for doing online livestreaming

    29 unemployed bar girls and one foreign national were arrested by Chonburi police yesterday evening in the Pattaya area for allegedly breaking Covid-19 rules by gathering with many people in a small place to perform online live streams for foreign customers overseas.


    Due to Covid-19 rules and restrictions, all entertainment venues nationwide in Thailand have been closed for approaching three months, putting an estimated tens of thousands of people in Pattaya alone out of work with little to no financial aid given from the Thai government to the sector. As Pattaya is so reliant on tourism and the entertainment sector, with some estimates stating as much as 80% of the total GDP of the area coming from tourism, the closures with no financial assistance have caused many people to seek income from alternative revenue streams.

    Pol. Col. Thanawut Chongchara, Deputy Commander of the Chonburi Police, Special Operations Unit, led the raid just before sunset at a rented room on Soi Thrappraya 15 in Banglamung.


    According to Chonburi Police, live streaming, in general, has been picking up across the city as bargirls and business owners, faced with no government financial assistance like many Western countries that closed business sectors, struggle to find an income with their livelihoods and main revenue source shut off for the past several months.


    The live streams vary from small individual productions run by solo unemployed bar girls to larger ones with groups of girls from the various bar and nightclub groups, primarily dancing and interacting with guests online in exchange for virtual drinks that give them a commission. There has also been a significant increase in former bargirls running their own Facebook, Youtube, and Onlyfans feeds, attempting to make an income with their former employer’s businesses shut by government regulations.

    Police Col. Thanawut Chongchara did not identify by name those arrested and stated that although they were sympathetic to people being unemployed and attempting to make an income that they viewed the overall issue as having many people together in a gathering style environment without proper social distancing rules.

    The 29 women and one foreigner, described by police as someone helping to run the live broadcast system, were arrested and brought to a local police station for processing under alleged violation of Covid-19 Emergency Decree and Communicable Disease Acts prohibiting many people from gathering together. Livestreaming equipment was confiscated and taken as evidence.


    Livestreaming had been picking up in popularity during lockdowns last year, as we have previously covered in a special report. For the most part, until recently, police had not taken many actions on the live streams but now stated the main issue wasn’t the streaming but a violation of Covid-19 rules by gatherings of groups of people.


    This comes as the entertainment business sector both locally and nationally pleads with the government for either financial assistance to survive the current closures that have no end in sight or be allowed to open their business with strict Covid-19 rules. In Phuket, for instance, where the “Sandbox” is about to open to foreign tourists, entertainment owners have been told they cannot open, even fully vaccinated, and have been protesting.

    From a national level, many major entertainment associations, musicians, and others in the industry have also been asking the government for financial aid or to be allowed to open their venues.


    The Thai Center for Covid-19 Situation Administration has stated that they are also sympathetic to those who have lost their jobs but stated this sector was nearly impossible to relax due to people who would not follow Covid-19 rules when intoxicated. They have, however, asked the public for ideas on how to re-open businesses.


    We responded to this with an editorial with some ideas earlier this week.


    For now, the entertainment sector remains closed in Pattaya with almost no financial aid programs and no end in sight, which will likely lead many more to continue to find potential alternative revenue streams to make ends meet. Meanwhile, despite the shuttering of the industry, cases in Chonburi have actually risen since the closure, primarily driven by cases at markets, factories, construction sites, and densely cramped workers dormitories from the above locations.



    29 unemployed bargirls in Pattaya arrested for doing online livestreaming, alleged violation of Covid-19 rules - The Pattaya News

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    Explains the butthurt Bryan flowers has been posting on FB today !!

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    Eh? Linky?

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    wait till they work out they can make more from onlyfans than they did working the bar

    start their following with reddit.com: over 18?

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    good money in streaming, Bryan claims paypal has stooged him of 478,000,000 !!

    Quote Originally Posted by [url=https://www.facebook.com/BryaninBangkok
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    Around 6 months ago we started live streaming our 450 girls on Facebook to keep them employed as well as all the other support staff, I am always trying to put our staff before our feelings, so we did the live streaming even if we didn’t want to. We could have easily closed up for a long time, but staff is a key part of our business.

    We used paypal because its the most popular payment processor, paypal started banning our accounts but having approximately 30 streams going on, it was a complex operation and we thought it could be the amount of money coming in quickly. We asked paypal for reasons why the accounts were banned, we asked how we could try and not break any rules, we told them we were licensed to sell alcohol, or we can stop selling it etc. We were never told what rule we broke and we were unsure if it was the way we were doing it, in hindsight we should have had a wallet system. We were live streaming under facebook/youtube rules, so there wasn't any nudity or sex acts.

    We burnt through 32 paypal accounts while we were looking for a payment processor that actually told us what we can and cant do. Paypal told us all our money was held for 180 days, so we decided to keep finding more accounts to use and we paid all salaries and commissions. We did this to keep everyone employed and we figured we would get the money in 180 days. We switched to a new payment processor after our last paypal account was banned for 180 days and I had a huge backlash from customers and staff. We explained to everyone that we had large amounts of money held and we couldn't continue down this path to help our staff.

    I later found out, despite no nudity, we are bunged into the adult world of payment processors. Which from what I can tell seems to be controlled by the USA.

    Those 180 days are finally up and we have found all of the 32 Thailand PayPal accounts have been swiped completely. We have enough money in there to buy a house in any town in the UK. The reason why it's so much money is that we had around 30 streams going and they would roll back 3 days worth of withdrawals and I saw them reverse a withdrawal already in the bank.

    I didn’t mention this a few weeks ago, because there are some sad individuals that enjoy the suffering of our company, but I feel that I should be warning friends on my Facebook about how paypal operates.

    This is one of many recent "hurdles" we have faced, some of them we cant talk about, we had court cases today and we have another court case over a substantial theft in our company but that's another sad story. People are acting desperately now.

    We have served 32 legal notices to Paypal Thailand Ltd, with a capitalisation of 478,000,000 baht, we have told them we will respond with legal action if they do not pay us back our money, with a 7.5% interest of course. Not many people take paypal to court but we are fighters and my friend has a good law firm in Thailand.

    They will wipe your entire account if they feel you have broken the rules, they won't tell you why or prove it either. I read one guy had 14000 USD taken from one account, there is no limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    good money in streaming, Bryan claims paypal has stooged him of 478,000,000 !!

    it will be post nut clarity - too many punters would be posting disagreements with the product they got thinking they were getting a free wank

    really they chose the wrong payment service to use

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    I'm guessing the Paypal T&C's probably say "We can take what we like when we like whyever we like and if you argue you owe us a kidney".

    No fucker ever reads them before clicking "I agree", do they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    wait till they work out they can make more from onlyfans than they did working the bar

    start their following with reddit.com: over 18?
    If you go down the rabbit hole there is a link to r/ihavesex

    I think every poster is Skidmark.


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    So Thai that they failed to acknowledge the rather large chang in the room that the ladies are prostitutes and the farang is their pimp. Since the inception of COVID, and to be accurate probably quite a while before that, the 10,000 prostitutes working the beer bars and Go-Go bars in and around Pattaya have struggled to attain business levels last seen in their heyday back in the late '90s and early Noughties. Many have discovered that online social media pimping is much more lucrative and as well as netting profits from 'virtual' whoring the girls have a ready-made market waiting for capture when the mongers actually travel here to meet their 'avatars'.
    As I understand it the virtual world has eclipsed the old paradigm of the beer bar/ brothel Go-Go environment when it comes to exploiting the trade with the younger, more attractive whore, leaving the traditional venues to the old broilers and homosexuals working the geriatric Johns from the lower end/blue collar scene.

    The BiB are pretty much cut out of the loop and have to go scavenging for their bonuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    So Thai that they failed to acknowledge the rather large chang in the room that the ladies are prostitutes and the farang is their pimp. Since the inception of COVID, and to be accurate probably quite a while before that, the 10,000 prostitutes working the beer bars and Go-Go bars in and around Pattaya have struggled to attain business levels last seen in their heyday back in the late '90s and early Noughties. Many have discovered that online social media pimping is much more lucrative and as well as netting profits from 'virtual' whoring the girls have a ready-made market waiting for capture when the mongers actually travel here to meet their 'avatars'.
    As I understand it the virtual world has eclipsed the old paradigm of the beer bar/ brothel Go-Go environment when it comes to exploiting the trade with the younger, more attractive whore, leaving the traditional venues to the old broilers and homosexuals working the geriatric Johns from the lower end/blue collar scene.

    The BiB are pretty much cut out of the loop and have to go scavenging for their bonuses.
    Is a girl that gets her tits on cam a prostitute?

    One thing this cam thing is good for is money laundering !!

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    Could it be that Pattaya bars are set up in the same way western strip joints are?

    Cash businesses that are used to launder drug money.

    Despite the protestations of the bar owners that it's all about looking after their staff, do you think Paypal may have AML concerns about this?
    Some people think it don't, but it be.

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    No, drug distribution is a local thing and they ain't washing proceeds through beer bar shite. The leisure industry that works as a laundromat is mostly utilised by the farang boiler rooms boys and they prefer bigger leases - think of, say, Hooters type operation rather than Dirty Noi's Shagarama.

    Given Barclays and the HSBC never really gave a fuck about the Colombian cartels using their banks, I shouldn't think Paypal are that bothered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    rather than Dirty Noi's Shagarama.
    What's the URL of that one SA? Did you find it on Google or was it a Spam email?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    What's the URL of that one SA? Did you find it on Google or was it a Spam email?
    The same as the 10,000 prostitutes he quoted. He counted them personally, or plucked a figure from the ether, like he usually does with his financial and economic stats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    No, drug distribution is a local thing and they ain't washing proceeds through beer bar shite.
    I know of one bar in LK Metro that is 100% a laundry, been confirmed by multiple sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    The same as the 10,000 prostitutes he quoted. He counted them personally, or plucked a figure from the ether, like he usually does with his financial and economic stats.
    The conservative estimate before COVID posited a minimum of a thousand beer bars distributed around Naklua, Central Pattaya and Pattaya Tai, dozens of GoGo bars in Walking Street and environs, several hundred massage salons ranging from the 5 girlie wankaramas to the several ginormous soapie palaces, the dozens of Boyztown brothels, the score or so of 'gentlemen's clubs' that proliferate discreetly and fuck knows how many freelance/callgirl bureaux working the territory which adds up to a working population of at least 10,000 but in all likelihood probably more, and in its heyday the whore industry was estimated to have employed up to 15,000 plus.

    And of course we have the hundreds who paraded the entire promenade along Beach Road nightly.

    Christ, I mean, just who the fuck thinks it was less.

    Now? It's a ghost town and most whores have gone back to Isaan or found proper jobs in factories etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    or found proper jobs in factories etc.
    Poor girls.

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