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    Leaked documents from the North Korean government show Kim is running an anti-K-Pop c

    North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un has declared war on K-Pop and is targeting BTS fans in particular in a bizarre battle of music and control.


    The 37-year-old supreme leader has taken issue with the infectious tunes of Korean pop music – which blends European music style with Korean lyrics.


    Control freak Kim has declared the music style a “vicious cancer” and says it risks corrupting the people of North Korea – who live under his totalitarian control.


    Mr Jong-un’s government is now cracking down on the style of music as he regards it as “a serious threat to North Korean socialism.”

    TMZ reports: “Leaked documents from the North Korean government show Kim is running an anti-K-Pop campaign against what he calls the ‘vicious cancer’ of South Korean pop groups.


    “The docs, detailed in the New York Times, rip K-Pop for spreading ‘anti-socialist’ sentiment and corrupting the ‘attire, hairstyles, speech, behaviors’ of the youth.”


    The report hints that there are concerns over how brutal Mr Jong-un’s vendetta against the music style, and those who enjoy it, will go.

    They write: “The scary part is it's hard to say how far Kim would go to stem what he sees as a cultural invasion from South Korea and its boy bands.”


    And add: "While BTS and other K-pop groups are hurling infectious hits like Dynamite ... Kim Jong-un has actual explosives."


    The latest threat against K-Pop comes three months after Kim Jong-Un made a veiled threat to entertainment.


    In March, a propaganda site was uncovered describing artists as: "bound to unbelievably unfair contracts from an early age, detained at their training and treated as slaves after being robbed of their body, mind and soul by the heads of vicious and corrupt art-related conglomerates".

    Expert Keith Howard, from London's School of Oriental and African Studies, told CNN at the time: "There's no evidence that people are creating any of their own music outside of what's centrally allowed.


    "The only recording company is state-owned, and there are no performances that would be permitted outside what's authorised.


    "You don't even have the right to create new words (to existing songs), and if you did, you'd have to be incredibly careful, because if they were deemed to be inappropriate you'd be in trouble."

    North Korea's Kim Jong-Un targets BTS fans in brutal crackdown on K-Pop music



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    So pretty much a propaganda article for Americans and simpletons against KJU.

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    Maybe. Maybe not.

    N. Korean authorities using new law to crackdown on spread of South Korean content

    The North Korean government has been actively using its new “anti-reactionary thought law” to crackdown on all forms of anti-socialist behavior, including going as far as ordering executions as punishment for those engaging in such acts.


    The law, officially called the “Law on the Elimination of Reactionary Thought and Culture,” was enacted in December 2020 and is aimed at cracking down on the influx of outside (particularly South Korean) materials such as movies, dramas, music, and books, and punishing those involved in consuming or distributing such materials. Those caught possessing such foreign “propaganda” can face five to fifteen years in prison while those involved in distributing these materials can be sentenced to life imprisonment or even death.


    Tougher crackdowns


    In recent months, North Korean authorities have stepped up efforts at arresting those involved in such acts by emphasizing the importance of “reporting illegal behavior” by ordinary citizens. The authorities have recently created an entire list of actions that should be reported, including secretly accessing or distributing foreign materials via portable radios or computers and watching, listening to, copying, or distributing “unusual, decadent, or impure material or recordings.”


    The full force of the law was on full display in April, when authorities publicly executed a man living in Wonsan (Gangwon Province) for illegally selling CDs and USBs with South Korean movies, dramas, and music videos. A source quoted by Daily NK inside the country said that the man was caught by his inminban (people’s unit) leader’s daughter while secretly selling storage devices loaded with South Korean content. On April 25, approximately forty days after his arrest, he was publicly executed by firing squad in front of a crowd of five hundred people.


    Minors are also not exempted from being tried under this law. In fact, some North Korean sources say the law is aimed mainly at youth, since they are the most susceptible to being influenced by foreign, especially South Korean, culture. Earlier this month, Daily NK reported that six students in Nampo were arrested and given prison sentences for secretly watching South Korean content. The defendants were two third-year high school boys and four second-year high school girls. The students were accused of watching over 120 dramas and disseminating them among their classmates. As a result, they were sentenced to five years at a re-education camp.


    Moreover, according to local sources, North Korean authorities have been ordering Pyongyang residents to report the number of TVs in each household. The move is apparently aimed at preventing people from watching South Korean programs. Although TVs and radios must be registered with authorities and are manufactured only to pick up local signals, some people find ways to access South Korean channels, either by using foreign televisions or modifying domestic ones.

    “The number of households that have purchased one or two extra televisions has increased, so the police have instructed each neighborhood watch unit to accurately report the number of televisions in each household,” RFA reported recently. Those who are caught breaking the law are likely to be kicked out of the Workers’ Party, fired from their posts, or sent into internal exile.

    A direct threat to party control


    There is good reason for the government to be worried about the influx of such foreign information; it poses a direct threat—perhaps the most significant one—to its grip of control over the North Korean population. As long as people don’t know there are better alternatives to life inside the DPRK, they won’t put up any resistance and the Kim family can continue its dynastic rule indefinitely.


    Despite the harsh rhetoric, crackdowns, and punishments, foreign media continues to spread within North Korea and locals still consume this content throughout the country. The fact that the government felt the need to impose this law as recently as a few months ago points to the circulation of a significant volume of foreign content within North Korea’s borders.


    Recent surveys among defectors show a high percentage of them consumed foreign media while living in North Korea. According to a 2019 survey conducted by Unification Media Group, 91% of respondents said they had consumed South Korean and other foreign content while still living in North Korea. This is despite the fact that 75% of them had also witnessed someone being punished for engaging in this same behavior.


    Documents obtained by AsiaPress earlier this year show just how paranoid the North Korean leader has become about the spread of South Korean ideas in his country. According to one speech he made in September 2020, Kim Jong Un emphasized the need to eradicate certain South Korean terms—which he referred to as “puppet language”—from use in everyday conversation among North Korean youth. He particularly referred to the use of the words “oppa” (older brother) and “dongsaeng” (younger sibling), terms often used among close friends in the South. It is likely North Korean youth picked up on these terms while watching South Korean dramas.


    This is why some are calling the law the “Korean Wave suppression law,” as it’s main purpose is to eradicate materials coming from South Korea, especially dramas and films depicting South Koreans living a prosperous, happy, free life in a modern, safe, dynamic society—a very different reality to what ordinary people experience in the North.


    Too little too late?


    Although the government will continue to try and weed out “reactionary” behavior by increasing crackdowns and strengthening punishments, it cannot eliminate the ideas implanted in the minds of people through their consumption of these foreign materials. On the contrary, the more brutal the crackdowns, the more it will highlight the stark difference between North Korea and life abroad, especially South Korea. This will only make the youth more disillusioned with socialism and more inclined to exploring life outside the strict confines of their country. This new law may thus end up having the opposite effect in the long-term, pushing North Koreans away from their outdated system based on juche and self-criticism towards one that respects individual freedom, self-expression, and personal growth.

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    An image showing a portion of the new anti-reactionary thought law. / Image: Daily NK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    So pretty much a propaganda article for Americans and simpletons against KJU.
    It's quite well known that North Korea regulates anything coming from SK, and elsewhere - no different than China, Iran etc... During the Cold War times it was the same in east Germany, the Soviet Union and the rest of the Warsaw Block - best not let the oppressed population see what's going on outside their walls
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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    the ‘vicious cancer’ of South Korean pop groups.
    He is right about K-Pop. That shit is aids to the ears. Horrible shit.

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    ^The music is crap but they are cute little dancing girlie boys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    During the Cold War times it was the same in east Germany, the Soviet Union and the rest of the Warsaw Block - best not let the oppressed population see what's going on outside their walls
    I was on the high tower (Fernsehturm 368 m) in East Berlin in mid 70s, having lunch while the restaurant turned around within one hour, looking into West Berlin behind the Wall, even getting available binoculars for detailed peeking in. In fact, the views did not affect me, surprised when seeing people with two legs, not really excited by Berlin Straßen... (should I had been?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    I was on the high tower
    Of course you were.

    That would have been 15 years before I was at the луковичная глава, watching the Russian peasants line up for hours for a loaf of bread

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    The music is crap but they are cute little dancing girlie boys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    looking into West Berlin behind the Wall
    The wall which was there so that the West Berliners wouldn't escape into the land of milk and honey, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post

    That would have been 15 years before I was at the луковичная глава, watching the Russian peasants line up for hours for a loaf of bread
    Dunno what did you have, my google translator says "bulb head", still having?

    That was after Yeltsin rule when he was generously advised, not only by the daily calls from Bill... (but perhaps it's not true...)

    Boris Yeltsin had entourage of ‘hundreds’ of CIA agents who instructed him how to run Russia, claims former parliamentary speaker

    12 Jun, 2021



    The first Russian president, Boris Yeltsin, was surrounded by “hundreds” of CIA agents who told him what to do throughout his tenure as leader. That’s according to Ruslan Khasbulatov, the former chairman of Russia’s parliament.

    Speaking to radio station Govorit Moskva, Khasbulatov claimed Yeltsin’s entourage was full of Americans. In 1991, he was elected to his leadership post with Washington’s help, it has been alleged, and it is still not yet known to what extent the US remained the voice in his ear throughout his presidency.

    “There must have been a hundred [CIA employees],” Khasbulatov said. “They determined everything.” He also added that, after winning the presidential election, Yeltsin would send security officials and heads of departments to the US so the Americans could “examine them” and “give conclusions.”

    Boris Yeltsin had entourage of ‘hundreds’ of CIA agents who instructed him how to run Russia, claims former parliamentary speaker — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    The wall which was there so that the West Berliners wouldn't escape into the land of milk and honey, eh?
    Whatever purpose the walls has had... (to your own satisfaction and pride that you have stayed on the right side of it)

    BTW, two years later when I drove (with my wife) through München I was shocked to see something what I haven't seen from the Fernsehturm (the views were only into the showcase of West Berlin):
    Seeing first time in my life homeless people laying on walkways, begging...

    Afraid to go further the streets down...

    And realizing that the communists' brainwashing - what nobody listened and believed anyway (unlike the Hollywood brainwashing for the people on the right side of the Wall) - was not untrue...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Dunno
    That's obvious . . .
    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    the communists' brainwashing - what nobody listened and believed anyway (unlike the Hollywood brainwashing for the people on the right side of the Wall) - was not untrue...

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    Anyway, back to k-pop.

    BTS sure are pretty boys (too pretty for me). But some of their tunes are very danceable and good for a workout. Example:



    As for the girls, here's BlackPink. This was famous in PH two years ago. I remember it being played in our summer outing/ team building, pre covid.



    +++++++

    Disclaimer: not really a fan of k-pop, but my younger colleagues (and my niece) are huge fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    In March, a propaganda site was uncovered describing artists as: "bound to unbelievably unfair contracts from an early age, detained at their training and treated as slaves after being robbed of their body, mind and soul by the heads of vicious and corrupt art-related conglomerates".
    So not much different to the way Disney grooms and exploits their singers.


    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    here's BlackPink.
    Eddie with the masturbation emoji, incoming.

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    North Korean defector slams ‘woke’ US schools
    June 14, 2021

    A North Korean defector said she viewed the US as country of free thought and free speech – until she went to college here.

    Yeonmi Park attended Columbia University and was immediately struck by what she viewed anti-Western sentiment in the classroom and a focus on political correctness that had her thinking “even North Korea isn’t this nuts.”

    “I expected that I was paying this fortune, all this time and energy, to learn how to think. But they are forcing you to think the way they want you to think,” Park told Fox News. “I realized, wow, this is insane. I thought America was different but I saw so many similarities to what I saw in North Korea that I started worrying.”

    The 27-year-old told The Post that she could’t believe she would be asked to do “this much censoring of myself” at a university in the United States.

    “I literally crossed the Gobi Desert to be free and I realized I’m not free, America’s not free,” she said.
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    “I thought North Koreans were the only people who hated Americans, but turns out there are a lot of people hating this country in this country,” she told The Post.

    Cancel culture and shouting down opposing voices is becoming an issue of self-censorship.

    Park, who chronicled her escape from North Korea and life in the repressive regime in the 2015 memoir “In Order to Live,” said Americans seem willing to give their rights away not realizing they may never come back.

    “Voluntarily, these people are censoring each other, silencing each other, no force behind it,” she said.

    “Other times (in history) there’s a military coup d’etat, like a force comes in taking your rights away and silencing you. But this country is choosing to be silenced, choosing to give their rights away.”

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    “In some ways they (in the US) are brainwashed. Even though there’s evidence so clearly in front of their eyes they can’t see it.”

    Columbia University did not immediately respond to The Post’s request for comment.

    North Korean defector slams 'woke' US schools

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    North Korean defector slams ‘woke’ US schools
    Amazing - these schools will now be modelling themselves after North Korean schools? Surely even you aren't stupid enough to give this any heed . . . but then you are a nasty-arsed Russina-Invasion-Apologist Czech. No wonder you had to leave your country

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Amazing - these schools will now be modelling themselves after North Korean schools? Surely even you aren't stupid enough to give this any heed . . . but then you are a nasty-arsed Russina-Invasion-Apologist Czech. No wonder you had to leave your country
    Clearly, he was one of the select few who was "more equal" than most and did quite well for himself under Russian rule. Why should he care about the millions who suffered under the evil empire? Nobody else at the top did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Clearly, he was one of the select few who was "more equal" than most and did quite well for himself under Russian rule. Why should he care about the millions who suffered under the evil empire? Nobody else at the top did.
    Yup - proudly sharing on here that he was in London's East End while his countrymen were in jail, being tortured simply for wanting more liberalism.

    What a piece of dirt
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    Kim Jong-un’s war on K-Pop has Thai fans feeling political


    Kim Jong Un’s declaration of hostilities against South Korea’s K-pop style of music and TV prompted a range of responses this week from Thailand, home to one of the genre’s most dedicated fanbases, after the North Korean leader called it a “vicious cancer” corrupting his country’s youth.


    Thai netizens poked fun at Kim’s dramatic comments, jokingly asking if he was angry because the girl band Red Velvet hasn’t been releasing new songs, recommending he not get caught dancing to pop hit “Psycho” in the shower, and more.

    Others expressed more sympathy for the people of North Korea, drawing comparisons to Thailand’s own brand of conservatism and efforts to curb foreign influence on Thai youths, especially regarding demands for more freedom and human rights.

    Others expressed more sympathy for the people of North Korea, drawing comparisons to Thailand’s own brand of conservatism and efforts to curb foreign influence on Thai youths, especially regarding demands for more freedom and human rights.

    Kim Jong-un's war on K-Pop has Thai fans feeling political - Thai Enquirer

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