Thread: Taiwan ready to duke it out if China attacks

Taiwan officials say they are ready to duke it out if China decides to take its military activities a step further. The announcement, made by its foreign minister, comes after China has stepped up its aircraft carrier drills near the island along with other military activities in the past few months.


“From my limited understanding of American decision makers watching developments in this region, they clearly see the danger of the possibility of China launching an attack against Taiwan. We are willing to defend ourselves without any questions and we will fight the war if we need to fight the war. And if we need to defend ourselves to the very last day we will defend ourselves to the very last day.”


Washington, Taiwan’s most important international ally has been pushing for Taiwan to modernise its military and spend more on defence in order to make it harder for China to successfully attack the island.


“The defence of Taiwan is our responsibility. We will try every way we can to improve our defence capability.”


Taiwan’s Defence Ministry said they will run 8 days of computer-aided war games this month which would simulate a Chinese attack on Taiwan. The Han Kuang exercises are the island nation’s largest annual war games. The next phase of the games will include live firing drills, according to general Liu Yu-Ping.


“The drills are designed based on the toughest enemy threats, simulating all possible scenarios on an enemy invasion on Taiwan.”


Taiwan has not indicated if the Chinese carrier group is planning to go to the South China Sea, which is a disputed territory where a US carrier group is operating. But deputy defence minister Chang Che-ping says Taiwan is closely monitoring the carrier’s movements, saying that, for now, it seems the carrier is just doing routine drills.



Taiwan ready to duke it out if China attacks | Thaiger

Originally Posted by misskit

Taiwan officials say they are ready to duke it out if China decides to take its military activities a step further.

I think a misspelling and what was said was "juke" it out.

Where in the world do you find this material Misskit?

Taiwan won't be duking anything out with China. Not anytime soon.

nuking !

Originally Posted by russellsimpson

I think a misspelling and what was said was "juke" it out.

Where in the world do you find this material Misskit?

Taiwan won't be duking anything out with China. Not anytime soon.

It was a speech by the foreign minister that has been well publicised.

I wonder how important the south china sea islands are to their strategy ?

I am sure the seppos would have enough oceanographic data to engineer an underwater landslide during the next convenient seismic event

Originally Posted by russellsimpson

Taiwan won't be duking anything out with China. Not anytime soon.

Well, the Communist government in Beijing is the troubled and aggressive one, so if it were up to Taiwan they wouldn't want to.

...the mainland knows full well that the Taiwanese government speaks with an American accent...an experienced and attentive American fleet is just around the corner...

Originally Posted by tomcat

an experienced and attentive American fleet is just around the corner

Which, according to amersitani military war simulations will be defeated in 2 days.

By Chinese airmen, sailors and soldiers.

Unless ameristan goes nuclear. Which they have previously done, just because they consider it a worthy cause.

Originally Posted by OhOh

according to amersitani military war simulations will be defeated in 2 days

...doubtful: dire predictions by military brass are ruses to obtain more funding and greater operating freedom from politicians...

Originally Posted by baldrick

I wonder how important the south china sea islands are to their strategy ?

Since part of their strategy is mopping up the entire global seafood stock, I'd say it's very important.

And they are too stupid and greedy to realise that once depleted, it won't be coming back any time soon.

...^

Originally Posted by tomcat

dire predictions by military brass are ruses to obtain more funding and greater operating freedom from politicians

...repeating this may improve your comprehension...maybe...

China says U.S. to blame for tensions over Taiwan

BEIJING (Reuters) - Beijing blamed the United States on Thursday for tensions over Taiwan after a U.S. warship sailed close to the Chinese-claimed island, asking rhetorically whether China would sail in the Gulf of Mexico as a “show of strength”.

The democratically-run island has complained of repeated military activities by Beijing in recent months, with China’s air force making almost daily forays into Taiwan’s air defence identification zone.


On Monday, China said an aircraft carrier group was exercising close to the island, and on Wednesday a U.S. warship sailed through the sensitive Taiwan Strait that separates the island from its giant neighbour.


Speaking at a daily news briefing, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian said U.S. ships engaging in “provocations” “send a seriously wrong signal to the forces of Taiwan independence, threatening peace and stability in the Taiwan Strait”.


“Would a Chinese warship go to the Gulf of Mexico to make a show of strength?” he added.


In 2015, five Chinese Navy ships sailed in international waters in the Bering Sea off Alaska, in an apparent first for China’s military that came as then-U.S. President Barack Obama toured the U.S. state.


The U.S. Navy has been regularly conducting what it calls “routine” transits of the Taiwan Strait.


Washington has expressed its concern about a pattern of Chinese intimidation efforts in the region, including towards Taiwan, reiterating that the U.S. commitment to Taiwan is “rock solid”.


China believes the United States is colluding with Taiwan to challenge Beijing and giving support to those who want the island to declare formal independence.


Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen says they are already an independent country called the Republic of China, the island’s official name.


Taiwan is China’s most sensitive territorial issue and a major bone of contention between Beijing and Washington.


The widely-read Chinese state-backed tabloid the Global Times, published by the ruling Communist Party’s official People’s Daily, said on Thursday China’s carrier group had been drilling near Taiwan “amid U.S. provocations”.


It published what it said was a conversation between a Chinese fighter pilot and a Taiwanese one, who was warning China’s aircraft to turn around.


“This is China’s airspace,” the Chinese pilot says, in a recording the paper said was made on Tuesday while he was on duty cruising southwest of Taiwan.

China says U.S. to blame for tensions over Taiwan | Reuters

^^^

Simulated war games and sensational headlines. The real reality is that China has never been successful attacking anyone outside its own boarders. The Viets decimated the Chinese in '79 after they attacked and forced a full retreat.

Conducting large scale combined arms operations are highly technical and is only something that can be learned by actually doing and that is the sole domain of the United States.

The real motivation for these leaked "war games" where the US loses is to keep the military from getting its budget cut by the new administration. It is very covenant that all these articles are only now sprouting up.

If China attacks Taiwan it will be a defeat that will be the beginning of the end of the CCP and that is a risk that Xi will not take.

Beijing blamed the United States on Thursday for tensions over Taiwan after a U.S. warship sailed close to the Chinese-claimed island, asking rhetorically whether China would sail in the Gulf of Mexico as a “show of strength”.

I doubt anyone would give a shit if a chinky warship sailed around the Gulf of Mexico. But it would probably be followed by hundreds of chinky fishing boats and factory ships mopping up everything that isn't nailed down.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

But it would probably be followed by hundreds of chinky fishing boats and factory ships mopping up everything that isn't nailed down.

If they did that it would not end well for them, I can promise you that.

Someone has broken OhNo . . . is he finally going to thank the US and Americans for saving China from the Japanese forces? He and his countrymen should bow to Washington DC ten times a day in gratitude.

Originally Posted by tomcat

...repeating this may improve your comprehension...maybe...

Originally Posted by OhOh

doubtful

Originally Posted by bsnub

The real reality is that China has never been successful attacking anyone outside its own boarders

Nepalese women, children, sheep herders and monks - a successful invasion

Taiwan reports 11 Chinese aircraft in defence zone


HONG KONG (Reuters) - Eleven Chinese air force aircraft entered Taiwan’s air defence identification zone on Friday, including eight fighter jets, the island’s defence ministry said.


Chinese-claimed Taiwan has complained over the last few months of repeated missions by China’s air force near the island, concentrated in the southwestern part its air defence zone near the Taiwan-controlled Pratas Islands.


Taiwan reports 11 Chinese aircraft in defence zone | Reuters

It is time to shoot a few down. Whack the dog on its nose.

US Vows to Defend Taiwan Amid Chinese Military Incursions

The United States has reaffirmed its commitment to defend the democratic island of Taiwan amid ongoing incursions from China's military in recent weeks.


"Our commitment to Taiwan is rock solid," U.S. State Department spokesperson Ned Price told a news briefing on Wednesday.


"We think and we know that it contributes to the maintenance of peace and stability in and across the Taiwan Strait and within the region as well," he said.


"We have, of course, taken note with great concern the pattern of ongoing efforts [by China] and attempts to intimidate in the region including in the context of Taiwan," Price said, citing the 1979 Taiwan Relations Act that requires the U.S. to "resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security or the social or economic system of the people on Taiwan."


A Chinese aircraft carrier group conducted drills in waters off Taiwan and as 15 Chinese warplanes entered Taiwan's air defense identification zone (ADIZ) on Wednesday, the fifth day of incursions into the zone by China's People's Liberation Army (PLA).


Taiwan's military responded by scrambling planes to monitor the Chinese aircraft, issuing radio warnings and mobilizing air defense systems until the aircraft left the area, its ministry of defense said.


Taiwan foreign minister Joseph Wu warned on Wednesday that the country would fight "to the very last day," if the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), which has never controlled Taiwan, were to invade.


"From my limited understanding of American decision makers watching developments in this region, they clearly see the danger of the possibility of China launching an attack against Taiwan," he told reporters.


"We are willing to defend ourselves without any questions and we will fight the war if we need to fight the war. And if we need to defend ourselves to the very last day we will defend ourselves to the very last day," Wu said.


Meanwhile, the USS John S. McCain (DDG 56), an Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer, conducted "a routine Taiwan Strait transit April 7 (local time) through international waters in accordance with international law," the U.S. 7th Fleet said in a statement.


Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said the move wasn't in response to "specific events or actions," but rather to demonstrate its commitment to the freedom of all nations to "sail, operate and fly in accordance with international law."




'Combat ready'


China hit out at the United States for "endangering the peace and stability of the Taiwan Strait."


CCP leader Xi Jinping has told the country's military and armed police force to get 'combat ready' to defend national sovereignty and security, amid fears that Beijing may be planning an invasion of democratic Taiwan in the next few years.


Gaining control over Taiwan has been highlighted as a core goal of Xi's "national rejuvenation program" by 2035, with some analysts saying Beijing will likely make its first move in the next few years.


The top U.S. military commander in the region has warned that China could be preparing to bring forward plans to invade Taiwan as early as 2027.


Admiral Philip Davidson, commander of the U.S. Indo-Pacific Command, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that Beijing could launch an invasion within the next six years.


The PLA has flown multiple aircraft into Taiwan's ADIZ since the administration of U.S. President Joe Biden took office on Jan. 20.


The ADIZ was created by the United States Armed Forces after World War II, and covers most of the Taiwan Strait, part of the East China Sea, and adjacent airspace.


Not mentioned in or regulated by any international agreement, the zones extend far beyond territorial airspace and are designed to give a country more time to respond to potentially hostile aircraft.


Taiwan's defense ministry said recent incursions have included bombers and fast-moving fighter jets usually used for offensive purposes.



Possible invasion


In 2018, the Pentagon warned that the PLA is gradually preparing for a possible invasion of Taiwan, as the CCP "continued to develop and deploy increasingly advanced military capabilities intended to coerce Taiwan, signal Chinese resolve, and gradually improve capabilities for an invasion."


Taiwan has never been ruled by Beijing nor formed part of the People's Republic of China, but has been locked out of international diplomacy and agencies at the Chinese Communist Party (CCP)'s insistence.


Washington has said it will no longer seek to "appease" China on Taiwan, as the State Department announced an end to a ban on high-level official and diplomatic contact with Taiwanese officials on Jan. 9, at the tail end of the Trump administration.


Under CCP general secretary Xi Jinping, China has stepped up its rhetoric claiming the island as part of its territory, and has refused to rule out a military invasion.


But Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen has repeatedly said that the country's 23 million people have no wish to give up their sovereignty or their democratic way of life.


US Vows to Defend Taiwan Amid Chinese Military Incursions — Radio Free Asia

Shoot the bastards down.

Originally Posted by tomcat

...doubtful: dire predictions by military brass are ruses to obtain more funding and greater operating freedom from politicians...

In a nutshell.

Warmongers be gone. There will never be a war between China and the USA based on what is currently happening in the area.

End of.

Shadowboxing. Boring really.