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    ^ I would be surprised if they even let you board the flight to bkk, and if they did, Thailand wouldn’t allow you through immigration without all the coe shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happynz View Post
    Yeah, I get that part. I just am hoping there won't be a whole bunch of extra hoops to jump through seeing as how I'm not really even leaving the airport.
    First, I would check with the first airline if you can check your bags all the way through to your destination.

    The Thais are a moody bunch of fuckers. Sometimes I've just strolled from arrival to departure gate, picking up a boarding pass on the way.

    Other times there is a sour-faced trout at the escalator who forces you to go through immigration and back out again (I think this is just to get "tourist" numbers up). Obviously for you that will be a problem.

    These people have an "in" with immigration. Maybe drop them an email and see if they can solve your problem for you.

    Bangkok Airport Fast track Immigration service with VIP Meet & Greet service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I'm guessing the ol' chinkies have been whinging again as the useless Sinopharm vaccine has been added to the list.
    It is the same shot they gave my niece who is a pharmacist in hospital in a government hospital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happynz View Post
    Yeah, I get that part.
    I guess I should have added 'with all that implies'.

    Being allowed to mix with general pop. at the airport renders all the other precautions pretty much a waste of time.

    However, on reflection it would be fairly consistent if you could pay for the service Harriet linked to in order to get around the restrictions. Often that's the way services like this work - like paying agents for visas.

    Basically it would involve a bribe paid by the service provider.

    I'd still be really surprised if it's possible, but that wouldn't be the first time Thailand has surprised me.

    If you can do it then they won't be guaranteeing it in advance, and you'll be taking a big gamble so you'd need to reconcile yourself to that.
    Last edited by cyrille; 06-04-2021 at 10:05 AM. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    I would be surprised if they even let you board the flight to bkk
    From IATA:

    "1. Until 31 May 2021, passengers and airline crew are not allowed to enter and transit."

    Followed by a list of categories the rule does not apply to.

    IATA - International Travel Document News

    Which suggests as Slick posted, if you're not on the list, you're not going anywhere.
    Last edited by OhOh; 06-04-2021 at 10:55 AM.
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    Even the golf cart people can't fix this I would think. You need to talk to your airline. Did you buy the second leg separately? Because if you can't check your bags through I suspect big pomplem.

    Guidelines for International Flights with Transit/Transfer Passengers at Suvarnabhumi International Airport
    (Effective from 1 Mar 2021)


    According to the Notification of the Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand on Conditions for Aircraft Permission to Enter Thailand (No. 5), for aircraft operating the international flight with transit/transfer passengers, which has come into force from 1 March B.E. 2564 (2021), in conformance with the resolution of the meeting of the Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) No. 3/2564 on 22 February B.E. 2564 (2021), the Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand (CAAT) hereby issues the following guidelines:



    1. International flights with transit/transfer passengers shall be permitted only at Suvarnabhumi International Airport;
    2. Each passenger shall possess the complete set of the relevant documents which are:
      1. Fit to fly health certificate;
      2. Medical certificate with a laboratory result indicating that COVID-19 is not detected (done by RT-PCR technique and issued no more than 72 hours before travelling);
      3. Travel health insurance (worldwide or including Thailand) covering health care and treatment expenses for COVID-19 disease, or any other guarantee throughout their stay in the Kingdom, with a coverage of no less than 100,000 USD;

    Before the issuance of boarding pass, the document verification shall be done by the air operator. If any document is found incorrect or incomplete after the verification process, boarding pass shall not be issued to such passenger;

    1. Each passenger shall not go outside the specified area (Concourse E) and shall proceed through the “Sealed Route” as detailed below:

    (a). Each passenger shall disembark via Gate E10, go through security screening process and board the aircraft via Gate E9 or get in the separated shuttle bus to board the aircraft at the remote parking stand;
    (b). If the demand exceeds the existing capacity, there will be additional operations available at Gate E5, E7 and E8 which shall apply the same conditions as stated in 3. (a);
    (c). For aircraft making technical landing, follows the conditions stated in 3. (a) or (b);
    In case that Concourse E is under construction or maintenance condition, Concourse F shall be used under the following procedures:
    (d). Each passenger shall disembark via Gate F6, go through security screening process and board the aircraft via Gate F5 or get in the separated shuttle bus to board the aircraft at the remote parking stand;
    (e). If the demand exceeds the existing capacity, there will be additional operations available at Gate F1, F2, F3 and F4 which shall apply the same conditions as stated in 3. (d);
    (f). For aircraft making technical landing, follows the conditions stated in 3. (d) or (e);
    4. Physical distancing shall be managed by preparing space in the waiting areas for transit/transfer operations. Each passenger and personnel shall wear mask at all times except for necessary or emergency situation, and there shall be hand sanitizer containing at least 70% alcohol sufficiently provided;
    5. Personnel working in the waiting areas for transit/transfer operations shall wear Personal Protective Equipment (PPE).
    6. Food and beverage service in the waiting area shall be organized in a proportion of specific functional area. Active oversight shall be conducted consistently during area utilization in order to keep the operations safe and effective;
    7. Cleaning and disinfection shall be applied to areas and equipment regularly according to the Ministry of Public Health standards;
    8. The time period of each Transit/Transfer operation shall not exceed 12 hours. If any irregularities happened and extended the waiting period to more than 12 hours, the airline staff shall manage to carry the passengers by bus to wait at Gate D3 and D4;
    9. There shall be no COVID-19 screening or laboratory service at the Transit/Transfer area in the airport;
    10. If any ill or suspected to be affected from COVID-19 traveller is detected, such air operator shall hold full responsibility;
    11. Avoid the port of embarkation where the prevalence rate of COVID-19 is at high risk, according to the risk level officially categorized by the Ministry of Public Health;
    12. Air operators shall submit transit/transfer operation plans to the Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand (CAAT) and Airside Operations Control Center (AOCC) at Suvarnabhumi Airport no later than 24 hours before the flight.
    Update On Bangkok’s Suvarnabhumi Airport International Transit Passengers Regulations As Per March 1, 2021 '-' LoyaltyLobby

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    Or a pretty picture:

    Thailand quarantine and entry conditions-caat-infographic-guidelines-international-flight-transit

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    ^ Thx, Harry. That's good info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Did you buy the second leg separately? Because if you can't check your bags through I suspect big pomplem.
    The flight was booked through a travel agent. It's a bit complicated as we're flying on to New Zealand and with the wife in Thailand, the daughter returning to New Zealand from her studies in the US, and me being in the Middle East. It was bit tricky trying to get all three of us on the final leg to New Zealand. Normally I wouldn't be so fussed about arriving at different times, but with the Managed Isolation Quarantine accommodation so tight, I wanted to avoid a screw up with the three of us arriving at different times if not different days.

    Edit: As I understand it now, I'll have to buy insurance (around 4500 baht for myself and maybe not the daughter if she gets off her backside and renews her Thai passport) and we get CoE from the Thai Embassy and I'll have the Covid tests already because we can't fly to New Zealand without 'em.
    Last edited by happynz; 06-04-2021 at 05:47 PM.
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    I would stress again the need to contact the airline, because they are the ones who would have to fly you back to your origin airport if you are not permitted entry, which is why they may not even let you board.

    Even if you are good to go with COE and vaccine, you are still looking at 7 days in quarantine if you enter Thailand.

    But notice the bit bottom left of that poster: It seems to me that the air operator (I assume that means airline) is supposed to submit their transit/transfer plans to Swampy before the flight. If they've been operating a while they should be able to tell you exactly what you need just to get off one plane and get on another.

    If you're all going to end up in the same Kiwi quarantine, I really wouldn't fuss about whether you all arrive at the same time and focus on getting there first.



    P.S. If you do need insurance, Look at AXA Thailand, they have a "Sawasdee" policy for foreigners that meets COE requirements. Minimum is 30 days and it looks like that costs Bt2,700 (Cost me about Bt4,900 for the 60 day).

    COVID insurance for Thailand'''s foreign visitor... :: AXA Thailand

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    Quote Originally Posted by runker View Post
    It is the same shot they gave my niece who is a pharmacist in hospital in a government hospital.

    Poor niece.

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    Green owed, Harry.

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    Update: not that anyone here would or should give a shit, but Malaysia Airlines cancelled our flight to New Zealand a bloody eleven-and-a-half weeks out "due to recent developments/movement control restrictions enacted to curb the spread of the Covid-19 pandemic." Has some new Covid-19 event kicked off in Malaysia or New Zealand that I'm not aware of?

    At any rate, if you are thinking of booking with Malaysia Airlines, think twice. It's a pity because I've always have had generally good experiences with them both on the ground and in the air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happynz View Post
    Update: not that anyone here would or should give a shit, but Malaysia Airlines cancelled our flight to New Zealand a bloody eleven-and-a-half weeks out "due to recent developments/movement control restrictions enacted to curb the spread of the Covid-19 pandemic." Has some new Covid-19 event kicked off in Malaysia or New Zealand that I'm not aware of?

    At any rate, if you are thinking of booking with Malaysia Airlines, think twice. It's a pity because I've always have had generally good experiences with them both on the ground and in the air.
    Sorry to hear that.
    Traveling now days has become a nigh mare. Hope you get together with your family soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    P.S. If you do need insurance, Look at AXA Thailand, they have a "Sawasdee" policy for foreigners that meets COE requirements. Minimum is 30 days and it looks like that costs Bt2,700 (Cost me about Bt4,900 for the 60 day).

    COVID insurance for Thailand'''s foreign visitor... :: AXA Thailand

    Spoke with them when I was considering going back. The big trouble with insurance policies is many will not cover a stay in hospital if asymptomatic. AXA will, and there is a good rep in BKK who will handle things. Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcusb View Post
    Spoke with them when I was considering going back. The big trouble with insurance policies is many will not cover a stay in hospital if asymptomatic. AXA will, and there is a good rep in BKK who will handle things. Good luck
    Why do you need to stay in hospital if you are asymptomatic? To get out of government quarantine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by happynz View Post
    Update: not that anyone here would or should give a shit, but Malaysia Airlines cancelled our flight to New Zealand a bloody eleven-and-a-half weeks out "due to recent developments/movement control restrictions enacted to curb the spread of the Covid-19 pandemic." Has some new Covid-19 event kicked off in Malaysia or New Zealand that I'm not aware of?

    At any rate, if you are thinking of booking with Malaysia Airlines, think twice. It's a pity because I've always have had generally good experiences with them both on the ground and in the air.
    Well that's a pisser.

    But at least they didn't let you down at the last minute.

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    Wife now wants to cancel out travel plans, she says, that they just announced that anyone traveling from Bangkok to Khon Kaen has to quarantine at home for 14 days.
    Has anyone heard anything like that?
    I cant believe that , first you are vaccinated, then you quarantine for 7 days and then go home and quarantine 14 more days. But trying arguing with my wife.
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    How closely would you expect that to be monitored, if so?

    I'd say 'not at all'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Wife now wants to cancel out travel plans, she says, that they just announced that anyone traveling from Bangkok to Khon Kaen has to quarantine at home for 14 days.
    Has anyone heard anything like that?
    I cant believe that , first you are vaccinated, then you quarantine for 7 days and then go home and quarantine 14 more days. But trying arguing with my wife.
    Er, which bit of ' vaccination does not prevent infection or your ability to transmit the virus, it simply prevents the development of symptoms that might otherwise require hospitalisation and life support therapy' do you not understand.

    In light of the recent outbreaks it would be sensible to curtail all travel out of Bangkok and between chanwats.

    Frankly, I think it will only be a matter of time before Thailand and Malaysia are placed on a 'no-fly' list by other countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    I cant believe that , first you are vaccinated, then you quarantine for 7 days and then go home and quarantine 14 more days.
    I can also not believe that, I have not seen any limitations for local travel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    But trying arguing with my wife.
    Well that's your problem!

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    I see that Buriram has imposed a 14-day quarantine requirement on travellers from current red zones, including Bangkok, but if they submit to a rapid test ( 600 baht ) that shows a negative result then they can proceed unhindered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    I see that Buriram has imposed a 14-day quarantine requirement on travellers from current red zones, including Bangkok, but if they submit to a rapid test ( 600 baht ) that shows a negative result then they can proceed unhindered.
    Thats at the buriram airport, and it’s been like that off and on for months now. Oddly Buriram has had some of the more strict travel rules.

    Fly in from don muang and they have a rapid covid test station after you walk off the plane.

    FYI it’s sort of elective. If you tell them you are not staying in Buriram then you can avoid the test. I flew through there 5-6 times during covid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Wife now wants to cancel out travel plans, she says, that they just announced that anyone traveling from Bangkok to Khon Kaen has to quarantine at home for 14 days.
    Has anyone heard anything like that?
    I cant believe that , first you are vaccinated, then you quarantine for 7 days and then go home and quarantine 14 more days. But trying arguing with my wife.
    LOL

    Dude tell your wife to calm down. First of all nobody is going to even check you when you travel. Second, if anyone does you’ll have proof of vaccination, proof of multiple covid tests, and proof that you JUST left quarantine. You’ll be cleaner than anyone already in Thailand lmfao.

    I can guarantee you’ll have zero issue and this should be the least concern.

    Once you get to Thailand you’ll see that what you read in the media and what’s happening in the ground is completely different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    First of all nobody is going to even check you when you travel.
    I can guarantee you’ll have zero issue and this should be the least concern.[/QUOTE]
    Last December when travelling from a Bangkok ASQ to Trat province via a Blue Bus, everyone was asked to confirm their destination address and phone number.

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