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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    No matter what you do or how you come it is a complete rip-off.
    When you are responsible for Thai healthcare, you can set the rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    I was only concerned about not getting the 'rona until last week.
    Yea you're protected, allegedly, but as illustrated above, there are additional concerns for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    there are additional concerns for all.
    Yeah, fair enough.

    Still, arriving at Swampy, knowing there isn't a single person there less likely to be infected than you, and being guided by people in hazmat suits as you're shipped off to two weeks in isolation...

    Oh well, gots to be done I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Probably had been tested prior to leaving his house with his test result and FTF certificate.
    Since the virus doesn't reveal itself that quickly, it could well have been a sly snog with his girlfriend outside the airport before departing.

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    • One of the many news reports where I understood it would change to AQ………


    Free state quarantine for Thais set to end on July 1

    From July 1, Thai nationals who return from abroad by air or sea will have to pay the full cost of their 14-day Covid-19 quarantine.

    That is the date when the government will step back from providing state quarantine as a matter of course to all Thai nationals. Instead, alternative quarantine (AQ) facilities operated by the private sector, such as hotels certified by the government, will be the only option available, the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) announced yesterday.

    • About those Red zones. One of many Thai news organizations have reported on it.


    Chiang Mai tightens screening measures for travellers from red zone provinces

    The Chiang Mai Communicable Disease committee on Friday announced that people travelling from provinces in the red zone -- highest control area based on number of Covid-19 infections -- must register via CM-Chana application at least 24 hours before entering the province from June 1.

    They must present the evidence of registration to officials upon entry.

    The red zone provinces are: Bangkok, Nonthaburi, Pathum Thani and Samut Prakan.

    “Visitors from these provinces must strictly follow the guidelines provided by CM-Chana platform via SMS during the entire time of their stay in the province,” the announcement said.

    Meanwhile, Chiang Mai locals who return home from these provinces after work, study or delivery must quarantine themselves for 14 days, while those who need to enter Chiang Mai for a brief period or for product delivery will be observed by Chiang Mai disease control officers.


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    News today related to Red Zones………

    Man faces charges in Buriram for failing to report for COVID-19 screening

    Health officials, in Thailand’s northeastern province of Buriram, have filed charges against a man, who recently returned to his home in the province from Bangkok and refused to report to the authorities as legally required.
    Last edited by S Landreth; 01-07-2021 at 07:19 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    well have been a sly snog with his girlfriend outside the airport before departing.
    Yes, whatever you got up too during the time, 72 hours, of being tested and stepping into the taxi to the airport.

    A few Brixton spliffs was probably, with hindsight, not useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Yes, whatever you got up too during the time, 72 hours, of being tested and stepping into the taxi to the airport.

    A few Brixton spliffs was probably, with hindsight, not useful.
    I isolated and worked from home for two weeks before travelling and did all the hand washing, mask wearing, distancing shite.

    There was no fucking chance at all of me failing a PCR test in ASQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    all the hand washing, mask wearing, distancing shite
    I'm sure we all did, however the risks remain.

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    8+ potential hot spots
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    who was on his flight had subsequently tested positive. Fortunately he wasn't infectious during travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    I'm sure we all did, however the risks remain.
    Don't be fucking silly hoohoo, I wasn't slumming it with the types of people you mix with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I isolated and worked from home for two weeks before travelling and did all the hand washing, mask wearing, distancing shite.

    There was no fucking chance at all of me failing a PCR test in ASQ.
    So you were teleported from your home to the ASQ thereby avoiding contact with any humans..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    So you were teleported from your home to the ASQ thereby avoiding contact with any humans..
    I was transported to the airport by a vaccinated driver after a couple of weeks WFH. Checked in at the pointy end by vaccinated airline staff. Bags scanned by vaccinated security. Boarded a plane staffed with vaccinated crew. Seated in a cabin with one other vaccinated passenger. The only chance of getting infected would have been swapping spit with the staff at Swampy and amazingly I managed to resist that tempation.

    It isn't difficult to avoid getting this virus. Virtually everyone that gets it is not observing the rules.

    Oh, and of course I am vaccinated with a proper vaccine.

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    I'm coming back to Thailand at the end of August after having surgery on my hip and spending 6 weeks on IV in an extended care facility. I'm out now and trying to gather the strength to walk normally again.

    What I have learned is that since I have a type O retirement visa I will have to buy special Covid insurance with 400,000 usd coverage good for one year at the cost of 80,000 baht because of my age. That plus the hotel quarantine and airline ticket via Thai government arranged semi commercial flight. Quite a hefty sum. To add insult to injury I already have two jabs of Moderna and health care coverage in Thailand through the SSO.

    They are making it very difficult to continue to live in Thailand. I think I will cash out and return to the USA permanently ASAP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    I'm coming back to Thailand at the end of August after having surgery on my hip and spending 6 weeks on IV in an extended care facility. I'm out now and trying to gather the strength to walk normally again.

    What I have learned is that since I have a type O retirement visa I will have to buy special Covid insurance with 400,000 usd coverage good for one year at the cost of 80,000 baht because of my age. That plus the hotel quarantine and airline ticket via Thai government arranged semi commercial flight. Quite a hefty sum. To add insult to injury I already have two jabs of Moderna and health care coverage in Thailand through the SSO.

    They are making it very difficult to continue to live in Thailand. I think I will cash out and return to the USA permanently ASAP.
    I thought Covid coverage was up to USD 100K?

    See what this quotes you for 365 days.

    https://direct.axa.co.th/TA-Inbound/...avel-insurance

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I thought Covid coverage was up to USD 100K?

    See what this quotes you for 365 days.

    https://direct.axa.co.th/TA-Inbound/...avel-insurance

    They were the first company I contacted. They were very helpful. They do not provide covid insurance for people over 70 but they referred me to several companies that do. In fact, very few companies offer coverage to people over 70. The premium depends on age, visa type, nationality and length of stay. 400,000 is the minimum for OA, OX and O visa holders. Coverage for the sandbox and visa on entry require less coverage.

    This kind of coverage is now a requirement for retirement visa holders. This is going to be very tough on a lot people living in Thailand on fixed monthly incomes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    They were the first company I contacted. They were very helpful. They do not provide covid insurance for people over 70 but they referred me to several companies that do. In fact, very few companies offer coverage to people over 70. The premium depends on age, visa type, nationality and length of stay. 400,000 is the minimum for OA, OX and O visa holders. Coverage for the sandbox and visa on entry require less coverage.

    This kind of coverage is now a requirement for retirement visa holders. This is going to be very tough on a lot people living in Thailand on fixed monthly incomes.
    I'm surprised it's so high, I would have thought the high mortality rate for the over 70's would make healthcare costs quite low. Does it include funeral costs or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    400,000 is the minimum for OA, OX and O visa holders. Coverage for the sandbox and visa on entry require less coverage.

    This kind of coverage is now a requirement for retirement visa holders. This is going to be very tough on a lot people living in Thailand on fixed monthly incomes.
    It certainly is going to be tough for many but just did my 1 year extension and was told O holders do not require insurance. Of course, as with so many things, this too is subject to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    It certainly is going to be tough for many but just did my 1 year extension and was told O holders do not require insurance. Of course, as with so many things, this too is subject to change.
    So you need insurance for the initial retirement visa but don’t need it for the yearly extensions?

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    ^ Yes, Mendip had the same. I've come in on just the tourist visa, with insurance until the end of September in the hope that I can get a one year non-imm visa based on marriage in a couple of weeks, without the compulsory year's worth of insurance.

    The way things are at the moment I'll probably get insurance anyway, but want it to be by choice.

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    Note: As I understand it, this is the case with a non-imm based on marriage, but not on a non-imm based on retirement. However that apparently has not been Norton's experience. So unsurprisingly, it seems this might vary office to office.

    It does seem that a visa based on marriage is generally preferable though, or also one based on having a Thai child according to Mao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    I've come in on just the tourist visa, with insurance until the end of September in the hope that I can get a one year non-imm visa based on marriage in a couple of weeks, without the compulsory year's worth of insurance.

    The way things are at the moment I'll probably get insurance anyway, but want it to be by choice.
    I entered back in March last year before the borders closed with no visa at all and then swapped to a single entry non-o based on marriage from within Thailand and nothing at all was mentioned or required regarding insurance for both the initial visa nor the extention, but I’m 37 so maybe it’s an age thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    It does seem that a visa based on marriage is generally preferable though, or also one based on having a Thai child according to Mao.
    Yeah that’s my plan in the unlikely event that I out-live my wife, but only until I get close to retirement age, then I’ll likely go back home to retire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    The way things are at the moment I'll probably get insurance anyway, but want it to be by choice.
    Yeah I’m maintaining my Luma covid policy until this covid shit is over with. The last ASQ I stayed at was paired with Bangkok hospital so a 2 week stay there, if you fail your test, would be quite pricy. Couple thousand baht a day for basic sole occupancy hospital accommodation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Note: As I understand it, this is the case with a non-imm based on marriage, but not on a non-imm based on retirement. However that apparently has not been Norton's experience. So unsurprisingly, it seems this might vary office to office.
    I've never been asked to show an insurance, general or covid specific, and I'm as Norton on a non-Imm O visa based on retirement with yearly extensions of stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    I've never been asked to show an insurance, general or covid specific, and I'm as Norton on a non-Imm O visa based on retirement with yearly extensions of stay.
    How old are you? I think the whole deal is age?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    I've never been asked to show an insurance, general or covid specific, and I'm as Norton on a non-Imm O visa based on retirement with yearly extensions of stay.
    Non OA need insurance, Non O do not. Go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Non OA need insurance, Non O do not. Go figure.
    It is strange.
    My understanding is that the OA is applied for outside of the country at an embassy who report through the MFA, while the O extension is applied for at immigration offices within Thailand which has a different reporting structure.
    Therefore different interpretations can be made for similar situations without apparent conflict.

    I am pretty certain however that if the mfa's interpretation proves to be a money spinner over time it will be adopted by all.

    It should also be interesting to see howSyn Mun Kong Insurance's decision to arbitrarily terminate its Covid policies will affect things

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