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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Don’t even need a visa
    Only for a 45 day visa except stamp. Which I suspect is the minority of TD members.

    "Categories of visitors and requirementsGeneral requirements to go to Thailand

    1. Valid visa or re-entry permit, except visitors under the 45-day visa exemption scheme"

    Requirements for foreigners travelling to Thailand during COVID-19 travel restriction - Royal Thai Embassy, London

    Here is a link to the country's citizens that are eligible:

    https://image.mfa.go.th/mfa/0/zE6021...%B8%A3/VOA.pdf
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    ^ Yep, most of us are eligible for the 45 day stay.

    You can also swap to a non-o in-country too. Come in on 45 day stay, then swap to single entry non-o, then 1 year extensions, all without leaving.

    Change visa – สำนักงานตรวจคนเข้าเมือง – Immigration Bureau

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    All good then, thanks.

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    From today's Post. It's a rehash of previous articles and makes no mention of the 7 days or vaccination certificates.

    Usual contradictory fucking twaddle until it becomes official I suppose. Look forward to a few more flips and a few more flops before they make their fucking tiny minds up.

    Quarantine period cut to 10 days

    Guests allowed to leave rooms, less travel paperwork required


    Thailand has shortened the quarantine period for arrivals to 10 days from 14, effective next month.

    Starting April 1, both Thais and foreigners coming to Thailand will be isolated for 10 days, according to the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA), which posted the updates on its Facebook on Monday.


    During the period, they will be tested for Covid-19 twice — one during day 3 to day 5 and the other on day 9 or day 10.


    The exception is those from countries where there are mutations of the virus in which case they will be isolated for 14 days.


    Rules on allowed activities during the quarantine are also eased.

    People in quarantine may leave rooms during certain hours and for some purposes such as to use fitness centres or swimming pools; exercise outdoors; or buy food and products, but must remain in the quarantine facilities.


    In addition, the required paperwork before trips will be slightly changed.


    For foreigners coming to Thailand, fit-to-fly documents will no longer be required. Only RT-PCR test results taken within 72 hours are needed.

    Thais may choose to submit either fit-to-fly documents or RT-PCR test results, according to the CCSA.
    Quarantine period cut to 10 days

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    From today's Post. It's a rehash of previous articles and makes no mention of the 7 days or vaccination certificates.

    Usual contradictory fucking twaddle until it becomes official I suppose. Look forward to a few more flips and a few more flops before they make their fucking tiny minds up.
    April 1st is only a week away, if this is going to happen by then they better get their ass in gear.

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    I'm sure this is solely based on what the Post said, but...

    Thailand will reduce the mandatory quarantine period for foreign travellers from two weeks to 10 days, starting from April 1.

    In addition, the Kingdom is looking into ceasing quarantine altogether starting from October 1. However, government authorities have deferred a decision in recognising vaccine certificates, and delayed a decision on an isolation period of seven days for vaccinated tourists.

    Officials hope that the shorter quarantine would make Thailand more appealing to foreign visitors and is seen as a step towards reopening.

    Thailand is heavily reliant on tourism, which the pandemic has devastated. In 2019, the industry provided more than US$60 billion in receipts from some 40 million international visitors.
    Thailand shortens quarantine for international visitors | TTG Asia

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    Wife got her first shot of the Pfizer vaccine today, by the 13th of next month we will both be fully vaccinated.
    cant wait to get the hell out of here.
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    this virus is not going away anytime soon, and when thailand in an attempt to open up the country gets flooded with tourists desperate for a holiday waving their fake test and fake vaccination certificates in the faces of immigration officials at suwannaphum and head for the beer soaked party central beach destinations i suspect unvaccinated thailand will get hit hard with the pandemic that they have so far managed to mostly avoid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    this virus is not going away anytime soon, and when thailand in an attempt to open up the country gets flooded with tourists desperate for a holiday waving their fake test and fake vaccination certificates in the faces of immigration officials at suwannaphum and head for the beer soaked party central beach destinations i suspect unvaccinated thailand will get hit hard with the pandemic that they have so far managed to mostly avoid.
    Every major country has a central database keeping track of the who, when, and what of their vaccination program, You mean to say Thailand is incapable of developing a system where it gains limited access to those data bases, or to the IATA data base, and would depend on a note carried by the individual upon arrival?
    Thailand quarantine and entry conditions-vaccine-note-jpg

    PS: but I am concerned that the cases might start going up, perhaps not do to vaccinated people entering Thailand but because of other reasons, and they might suspend opening up Thailand, so we want to return ASAP, unfortunately I have some business pending that I hope to have concluded by late April. We are departing for Thailand immediately after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    You mean to say Thailand is incapable of developing a system where it gains limited access to those data bases, or to the IATA data base, and would depend on a note carried by the individual upon arrival?
    Erm... yes. Unless you give it a year or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    We are departing for Thailand immediately after that.
    Whatever the complications the journey may entail IMHO you have made the right decision.

    A fair wind and calm seas await you both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    We are departing for Thailand immediately after that.
    Yep, just get over there and ride out the rest of the pandemic (if there is an “end”) and sort the rest when it’s easier.

    Aside from the actual move, getting your person there is pretty easy now. Just money and time. The COE process is relatively streamlined. Just follow it and have the docs ready for upload.

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    Can anybody advise what are the quarantine protocols for someone wishing to commute between Thailand and Lao PDR, preferably at the border crossing in Nan, for work related reasons?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shy Guava View Post
    Can anybody advise what are the quarantine protocols for someone wishing to commute between Thailand and Lao PDR, preferably at the border crossing in Nan, for work related reasons?

    Thanks in advance.

    Commute? Are you kidding?

    For a start is your boss going to give you two weeks paid leave every time you enter Thailand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Erm... yes. Unless you give it a year or two.
    I don't think a year or two are nessacery. from most of the major countries such as EU,UK,USA, Australia etc. the database exists right now,
    It should be an easy mater to access those databases right now. In addition the International Air Transport Association (IATA) has already developed a system where they access that information and make it available to those who want to use it in an effort to revitalize the travel industry.
    Below is a list of airlines that already use it. as you see, Thai Airlines and Thai Smile are already using the system , and as such I am sure the thai government has access to it.
    IATA - Travel Pass Initiative
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    Can you name a single country that has agreed to provide them with vaccination data?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Can you name a single country that has agreed to provide them with vaccination data?
    For beginners , all the countries associated with the above airlines.
    in addition
    "IATA Travel Pass successfully trialled on Singapore Airlines flight to London Heathrow "
    Posted five days ago. IATA Travel Pass successfully trialled on Singapore Airlines flight
    so I assume the UK is participating also .

    "On Thursday, a Qatar Airways flight from Doha to Istanbul, Turkey, trialed a new digital passport embedded with vaccination information and test results, "
    International Airlines Start To Roll Out Vaccine Passports | TravelPulse

    "A few months before the tourist season kicks off, Greece has become one of the first countries in the European Union to issue digital COVID-19 vaccination certificates. "
    Greece issues COVID vaccine certificates to those who have had both doses | Euronews

    That's a few, for the rest you need to do your own research.

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    So it seems it was just approved:
    PUBLISHED : 24 MAR 2021 AT 16:55
    "PHUKET: Foreign visitors will be allowed entry to Phuket without quarantine from July 1, with nearly a million doses of Covid-19 vaccine ready for local residents before then, under a plan approved by provincial authorities."
    No-quarantine plan for foreign visitors to Phuket from July

    It does not help me, 'cause i cant wait until July, only for them to change their minds because cases started going up .

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    ^ Meh, that’s just approved by local governors. Their plan would need to be approved from the PM and whatnot. Same as the other 10 day and 7 day guidelines.

    Wouldn’t bank on any of that happening any time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    For beginners , all the countries associated with the above airlines.
    in addition
    "IATA Travel Pass successfully trialled on Singapore Airlines flight to London Heathrow "
    Posted five days ago. IATA Travel Pass successfully trialled on Singapore Airlines flight
    so I assume the UK is participating also .

    "On Thursday, a Qatar Airways flight from Doha to Istanbul, Turkey, trialed a new digital passport embedded with vaccination information and test results, "
    International Airlines Start To Roll Out Vaccine Passports | TravelPulse

    "A few months before the tourist season kicks off, Greece has become one of the first countries in the European Union to issue digital COVID-19 vaccination certificates. "
    Greece issues COVID vaccine certificates to those who have had both doses | Euronews

    That's a few, for the rest you need to do your own research.

    Maybe you should finish yours first.

    Passengers on Singapore Airlines flights from Singapore to London during the trial could use IATA Travel Pass to:

    1. Create a secure digital version of their passport on their mobile device
    2. Input their flight details to learn of travel restrictions and requirements
    3. Receive verified test results and a confirmation that they meet all travel requirements
    No mention of vaccine passport and the UK aren't accepting anything yet.

    Qatar: Fliers log in to the Travel Pass app using FaceID on their smartphones, then take selfies to authorize access. They can then scan their passports using the cameras on the phones. From there, passengers can add their itineraries, vaccination certificates and Covid-19 test results.
    Where can they add their vaccination certificates from and how can they be verified?

    e.g. the bubbles:

    They are able to download documentation via the government website.
    I've been able to do that for two months but even if I stick it in an app, Thailand has to have set up a mechanism to verify it and has to agree to accept it.

    As I said, I think there's a reason the "7 day quarantine" disappeared.
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    As slick says, this is local wind and piss from the Phuket twats. The CCSA need to approve everything (and they can't even settle on something in the first place it seems), and then it has to be published in the Royal Gazette.

    I'm going to leave things as long as I can, although I'm talking to an ASQ hotel about the possibility of making a flexible booking.

    PHUKET: Foreign visitors will be allowed entry to Phuket without quarantine from July 1, with nearly a million doses of Covid-19 vaccine ready for local residents before then, under a plan approved by provincial authorities.

    Deputy governor Pichet Panapong said the infectious diseases committee approved the proposal on Wednesday (they can't "approve" anything - Harry).

    "Phuket has been without any new Covid-19 cases for 89 days... There is in urgent need for foreign tourists here, to stimulate the economy and tourism sector," he said.


    "Before, a local resident earned about 40,000 baht per month on average. In February this fell to about 8,000 baht. Without some change, this will fall to 1,964 baht in July, which is below the poverty line."

    Mr Pichet said Phuket had 120,000 rooms in about 600 hotels. A survey concluded that foreigners do want to visit Phuket, if it reopens without quarantine.

    He said Deputy Prime Minister Supattanapong Punmeechaow had earlier instructed Phuket to reopen to foreign visitors on July 1. (He can't "approve" anything either).

    Phuket health authorities planned to acquire 930,000 doses of Covid-19 vaccine before July 1, for the local population, and foreign visitors' movements would be tracked by phone app **, Mr Pichet said.


    ** If it's the national one, I'm hearing from lots of people saying this app doesn't work and that they simply aren't bothering with it.

    No-quarantine plan for foreign visitors to Phuket from July

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    As slick says, this is local wind and piss from the Phuket twats. The CCSA need to approve everything (and they can't even settle on something in the first place it seems), and then it has to be published in the Royal Gazette.

    I'm going to leave things as long as I can, although I'm talking to an ASQ hotel about the possibility of making a flexible booking.



    ** If it's the national one, I'm hearing from lots of people saying this app doesn't work and that they simply aren't bothering with it.

    No-quarantine plan for foreign visitors to Phuket from July
    I did finish my research.
    The point of the conversation we are having is to your post that it will be a year or two.
    and my research shows that it is beginning to be implemented now, not that it is widely available now.
    Unless variant change the trajectory of the covid 19 progression and derails everything , I expect it to be widely implemented this summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    I did finish my research.
    The point of the conversation we are having is to your post that it will be a year or two.
    and my research shows that it is beginning to be implemented now, not that it is widely available now.
    Unless variant change the trajectory of the covid 19 progression and derails everything , I expect it to be widely implemented this summer.
    I have said frequently that we will see the usual Thai flipping and flopping until such times as a sufficient amount of the population is vaccinated.

    At this point that is not going to be this year.

    The Thais are ludicrously calling 45% "Herd Immunity" when for proper grown up scientists it is 70-90%.

    Thailand hasn't even started making vaccines yet and it has said it expects to vaccinate "50% of the population this year".

    However, I see that certain embassies are starting to advise people that 10 day quarantine will start on April 1st but they are waiting for the list of countries. It also remains to be seen what the official line will be on paperwork: This COE shit with bank statements and employer letters I got off my embassy is doable but a pain in the arse and a complete waste of time.

    I still haven't decided if I can be bothered with it all AND ten days. If they just made it visa exempt from specified countries and mine is on the list, I'll go.

    If not, I'll probably wait until they do get their act together. The Middle East is way ahead of most European countries in vaccinations, certifications and health ministry databases, and Emirates, Etihad and Qatar are all on the IATA trial list. One hopes they are all lobbying the fuck out of Thailand to get their countries onto "the list" and maybe even trying to help them connect Thailand to the GCC ministries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    This COE shit with bank statements and employer letters I got off my embassy is doable but a pain in the arse and a complete waste of time.
    What visa are you trying to come in on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I have said frequently that we will see the usual Thai flipping and flopping until such times as a sufficient amount of the population is vaccinated.

    At this point that is not going to be this year.

    The Thais are ludicrously calling 45% "Herd Immunity" when for proper grown up scientists it is 70-90%.

    Thailand hasn't even started making vaccines yet and it has said it expects to vaccinate "50% of the population this year".

    However, I see that certain embassies are starting to advise people that 10 day quarantine will start on April 1st but they are waiting for the list of countries. It also remains to be seen what the official line will be on paperwork: This COE shit with bank statements and employer letters I got off my embassy is doable but a pain in the arse and a complete waste of time.

    I still haven't decided if I can be bothered with it all AND ten days. If they just made it visa exempt from specified countries and mine is on the list, I'll go.

    If not, I'll probably wait until they do get their act together. The Middle East is way ahead of most European countries in vaccinations, certifications and health ministry databases, and Emirates, Etihad and Qatar are all on the IATA trial list. One hopes they are all lobbying the fuck out of Thailand to get their countries onto "the list" and maybe even trying to help them connect Thailand to the GCC ministries.
    I am with you on most of what you say. Anyway if they are to have quarantine free entry for those vaccinated by October 1st as they say, then they will need to have some sort of verification system in place, and they will need to implement and test it before then.
    You don't need to tell me about the Thai government, they are screwups every way you look. We have not been home for over a year otherwise we would not be putting up with this nonsense also . My wife's passport expired a couple of months ago, the only place this can be done is at the Thai embassy in Washington DC. only they say they are booked and don't take appointments for three months. So my wife needs to make the application with her American passport and be treated as an American . She can leave the US with her American passport, and enter Thailand with her expired Thai passport, but as far as the application with the embay it will have to be done with her American passport. What a joke.
    I love Thailand and the Thai people, but I tell you, if I was not married to a Thai, I would probably never see Thailand again.

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