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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    ...and the unnecessary angst continues on.
    Damn it Mr HungLow , Angst yes, unnecessary no.
    All very nessacery IMHO
    It all depends how much annoying people is important to you. Personally I take my charge seriously. and find it difficult to annoy people when I cant even get out of my room. I mean it could be done, but not to the high standards of which I am accustomed too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Why do you need to stay in hospital if you are asymptomatic? To get out of government quarantine?

    Sorry just noticed that.

    That has been procedure in ASQ. I was in the Facebook group "farangs stranded out of Thailand " or something like that as well as another FB group involving folks trying to enter. Back in sept-dec while I was involved with the group at least a dozen were hospitalized and asymptomatic. Many had trouble getting coverage because in their home country or their insurers home country asymptomatic does not require hospitalization. The ones hospitalized had to stay in hospital until they tested negative. That is why I contacted AXA, they cover that.

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    Good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Angst yes, unnecessary no.
    What remains on your angst list?

    As illustrated there are a number of members here, each with a nugget or two to share.

    Many moons ago, when I was a lad, my first trip to Thailand was supervised by an excellent travel agent. All we had to do was pack and await the:

    Taxi from home to Heathrow, sign bearing agents at airports, delivery to overnight Bangkok hotel, two days accompanied sightseeing. Transport to airport and check-in to a domestic flight, taxi to ferry, VIP cabin, taxi to 5* hotel. Same returning.

    I am surprised that nobody?, is offering and managing today's travellers similarly.

    As you post the first two days you will be enjoying your hotel room, basking in the glow that envelops all travellers who against all odds, reach the promised land of talcum powder covered beaches and sparkling Wats.

    Days 3 to 6 sampling the delights the hotel and your companion provide. Don't forget to feed the cooing "doves" on your balcony.

    Days 7 to ?, counting down to when that shiny freedom door is unlocked.

    All we ask is a new TD thread of your return trip.

    Last edited by OhOh; Yesterday at 09:29 AM.
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    Worst time to come to Thailand.

    My wife is hospitalized, she can't breathe. She already has asthma. I wish I was in Canada with her so at least she can get non retarded healthcare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YourDaddy View Post
    My wife is hospitalized, she can't breathe. She already has asthma. I wish I was in Canada with her so at least she can get non retarded healthcare.
    Get her in Bumrumgrat, Samitiwej, or Bangkok hospital on par if not better than any western hospitals IMHO. Simply transfer her. My wife fell from 4 meters 2 weeks ago and spent 6 nights in Bangkok hospital. Simply superior care from the neurologist to the eye doctors, to the ever vigilant nurses. Good luck to both you and her.

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    Two things: I think he has said his wife is in Canada, or is he simply being illiterate, and secondly, if you think a Thai hiso hospital is better than a western teaching hospital then you are an even bigger idiot than we all take you for.

    The problem if you are stricken by the virus in its extreme form in this country is the lack of ventilators and CPAPs, and probably oxygen if the numbers of infected rise exponentially as we expect from the songkran debacle and lack of lockdown after the Thonglor/Ekkamai scandals.

    The other treatments range in efficacy and resolve to the arthritis relief drug and, it seems, the asthma inhalant.

    In truth, it matters little where you are, if the cytokine storm hits and your body succumbs, that's it wherever you are.

    But the lack of ventilators and the staff trained to service them in ICU is a worry.

    But to blithely state one should transfer to Bumrungrad is idiotic unless you have really deep pockets. An ICU bed for a day will be in the region of 20,000 - 50,000 baht never mind the 'treatments'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    But to blithely state one should transfer to Bumrungrad is idiotic unless you have really deep pockets. An ICU bed for a day will be in the region of 20,000 - 50,000 baht never mind the 'treatments'.
    I was expecting that since he has a "hi/so" wife she would be insured. I do believe these international hospitals do provide a great standard of care. My wife's neurologist Dr. Poramet was the late kings neurologist so that was good enough for us. I dont continually put down Thailand its citizens SA. Once I realized this is home the wife and I have done all we can to make sure we are covered by good insurance and can be admitted to the best hospitals in the land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    What remains on your angst list?

    As illustrated there are a number of members here, each with a nugget or two to share.

    Many moons ago, when I was a lad, my first trip to Thailand was supervised by an excellent travel agent. All we had to do was pack and await the:

    Taxi from home to Heathrow, sign bearing agents at airports, delivery to overnight Bangkok hotel, two days accompanied sightseeing. Transport to airport and check-in to a domestic flight, taxi to ferry, VIP cabin, taxi to 5* hotel. Same returning.

    I am surprised that nobody?, is offering and managing today's travellers similarly.

    As you post the first two days you will be enjoying your hotel room, basking in the glow that envelops all travellers who against all odds, reach the promised land of talcum powder covered beaches and sparkling Wats.

    Days 3 to 6 sampling the delights the hotel and your companion provide. Don't forget to feed the cooing "doves" on your balcony.

    Days 7 to ?, counting down to when that shiny freedom door is unlocked.

    All we ask is a new TD thread of your return trip.

    When the 7 day ASQ plan for vaccinated people was announced , it was said that after day 3 , with a negative covid test, you can leave your room and use the hotel facilities.
    All the ASQ hotels I have looked into so far say " covid test day 5, test come back next day and if positive you can leave the room " I said but that's day 6 on a 7 day stay, What happen to you can leave your room on day 3 ??? This is pretty much, "You can leave your room after you complete the quarantine" well no shit!!
    They advertise pool, and Gym, but you cant use them. WTF?
    I know, I sound picky , but I don't do being locked up well. I know it is a defect in my personality, and I am working on it , at 63 I am almost there, another 30 years and I will be fine LOL.
    Anyway, what ever happen to the "you can leave your room after day 3 if you are vaccinated?
    end of rant !!

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    I got my 60 day Visa. Now the COE which is mostly completed, I've had my ASQ Hotel reserved for a couple of weeks.

    I'm finding and been quoted to obtain an PCR test the cost runs around $500 to $700 US. There are many cheaper Covid tests, but the Thais are requiring a PCR Covid test. My Medical Coverage has told me they will reimburse me the cost of the PCR test. It just gets more expensive and the hassles!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    I was expecting that since he has a "hi/so" wife she would be insured. I do believe these international hospitals do provide a great standard of care. My wife's neurologist Dr. Poramet was the late kings neurologist so that was good enough for us. I dont continually put down Thailand its citizens SA. Once I realized this is home the wife and I have done all we can to make sure we are covered by good insurance and can be admitted to the best hospitals in the land.
    Never said my wife is hiso.
    Insurance explicitly states no Bumrumgrad and Bangkok Hospital (the "hiso" branch). Other hospitals are fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    I was expecting that since he has a "hi/so" wife she would be insured. I do believe these international hospitals do provide a great standard of care. My wife's neurologist Dr. Poramet was the late kings neurologist so that was good enough for us. I dont continually put down Thailand its citizens SA. Once I realized this is home the wife and I have done all we can to make sure we are covered by good insurance and can be admitted to the best hospitals in the land.
    The greater proportion of vulnerable people, those with pre-existing conditions involving poor circulation, history of strokes and pulmonary disabilities and the aged will find it difficult to obtain COVID cover much over, say, indemnity for 100k baht, but certainly for most over 65-70 years old you can forget it unless you have inherited a track record with the same insurer.

    Around 2.5% of the COVID infected will need hospitalisation and ICU care but for many it is a one way trip.

    The UK has had around 5 million cases with 130,000 deaths. The UK's National Health Service has over a million staff with 1,200 hospitals receiving an annual budget of 120 billions funding 290,000 doctors equipped with only 4,000 critical care beds, a low number for western standards but certainly better than SE Asia. Recent stats showed over 25,000 cases received ICU care.

    With roughly the same population but with a fraction of resources one can only imagine the consequences if this current outbreak is not curtailed immediately. But there is no lockdown to speak of, save for the closure of entertainment places.



    And still no sign of a vaccination programme getting under way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    "You can leave your room after you complete the quarantine" well no shit!!
    They advertise pool, and Gym, but you cant use them. WTF?
    These things change. Some are government announcements, some media interpretations.

    They all may change tomorrow.

    Again, the hotel facilities are available to non ASQ guests you suggest. It appears that this hotel has confirmed to you, they are not to ASQ guests.

    Do other ASQ hotels allow their usage? If so book there but, "rules" may change tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcusb View Post
    Sorry just noticed that.

    That has been procedure in ASQ. I was in the Facebook group "farangs stranded out of Thailand " or something like that as well as another FB group involving folks trying to enter. Back in sept-dec while I was involved with the group at least a dozen were hospitalized and asymptomatic. Many had trouble getting coverage because in their home country or their insurers home country asymptomatic does not require hospitalization. The ones hospitalized had to stay in hospital until they tested negative. That is why I contacted AXA, they cover that.
    That's why I bought AXA as well. Lots of horror stories about people getting big hospital bills and finding their insurance didn't cover hospitalisation with asymptomatic COVID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalEden View Post
    I got my 60 day Visa. Now the COE which is mostly completed, I've had my ASQ Hotel reserved for a couple of weeks.

    I'm finding and been quoted to obtain an PCR test the cost runs around $500 to $700 US. There are many cheaper Covid tests, but the Thais are requiring a PCR Covid test. My Medical Coverage has told me they will reimburse me the cost of the PCR test. It just gets more expensive and the hassles!
    That's fucking nuts. Mine was about $100 (well it was free since it was through the company, but if I'd had to pay it would have been $100).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    When the 7 day ASQ plan for vaccinated people was announced , it was said that after day 3 , with a negative covid test, you can leave your room and use the hotel facilities.
    It depends who it was said by, doesn't it?

    I don't ever recall seeing that.

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    Checking for my kids I came across this from about 10 days ago..

    he new scheme started on 1 April as part of the country’s four-phase reopening rules. Here are the five things you should know about the shortened quarantine:

    1. The 7-day quarantine will only apply to people who received full doses of the following vaccines:




    • ARS-CoV-2 Vaccine (CoronaVac) by Sinovac (2 doses needed)
    • AZD1222 by AstraZeneca/Oxford (2 doses needed);
    • AZD1222 by SK BIOSCIENCE – AstraZeneca/Oxford (2 doses needed);
    • BNT162b2/CORMIRNATY – Tozinameran (INN) by Pfizer/BioNTech (2 doses needed);
    • Covishield (ChAdOx1_nCoV19) by the Serum Institute of India (2 doses needed);
    • COV2.Sby the Janssen Pharmaceutical Companies of Johnson & Johnson (1 dose needed),
    • mRNA-1273 by Moderna (2 doses needed).

    The traveller must receive the vaccine at least 14 days before their arrival in Thailand.

    1. The current 14-day period would remain for people arriving from countries where the COVID-19 virus had mutated.
    2. When applying for a certificate of entry, travellers would still have to book and pay for 11 nights. The reason behind this is because verification will take place upon arrival.
    3. Verification of vaccination certificate will be conducted at the airport by the immigration and doctors from the Ministry of Public Health. They will decide whether the traveller will spend 7 days or 10 days in quarantine. If the traveller will only spend 7 days in quarantine, the hotel will refund the difference of the amount to the guest.
    4. Incoming foreigners and Thais returning to the country would be tested once after arrival and on days 5-6.

    Apart from the aforementioned changes in quarantine rules, Royal Vacation DMC claimed that all other requirements such as negative COVID test and medical insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It depends who it was said by, doesn't it?

    I don't ever recall seeing that.
    "What will change from April?
    According to the Center for COVID-19 Situation Administration, which supervises the Thai government's coronavirus policies, Thais and others arriving from abroad will have to quarantine themselves for 10 days, shorter than the previously required 14 days.

    Travelers must get two PCR tests: one between the third and fifth day after arrival, and another on the ninth and tenth day.

    While in isolation, people will be allowed to move inside the facilities where they are staying. They can use fitness centers and swimming pools and make purchases at kiosks. Previously, those in quarantine could not leave their room. "
    Thailand reduces quarantine period from April: 5 things to know -
    Nikkei Asia


    I Guess the provision to allow vaccinated travelers to leave their room after a negative covid test on day 3 must have changed, which is IMO counterintuitive if as the data seems to suggest , vaccinated people are of very limited danger to contract covid, and the new ASQ rules were enacted to promote tourism, who would want to spend their their vacation locked up in a hotel room , and pay trough the nose , and jump through myriads of hoops for the privilege?
    even we , who have not been to our Thai home for over a year, and in view of the rising covid cases in Thailand ,are be reconsidering. Wife last night said. "Maybe we should wait a couple of months more"
    If as they had said you could leave your room after 3 days, Well , you would think, First couple of days I will be jet lagged anyway, "I could use some stay in the room and catch up on my sleep time" then I will hung out by the pool, and work on my tan for a few days more, and then I can spend a few days seeing the country.
    I am willing to bet, that aside from those of us who have to come to Thailand, very few people will come for vacation. Why then, are even advertising in their ASQ brochures gyms, and pools of you cant even use them?

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    I'm not too concerned about putting up my feet in a nice hotel for a week.

    Getting ready to depart, so I'll report back from the other side once I have my feet up and the Firestick plugged in for the F1 and the Footy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I'm not too concerned about putting up my feet in a nice hotel for a week.

    Getting ready to depart, so I'll report back from the other side once I have my feet up and the Firestick plugged in for the F1 and the Footy.
    Good luck and have a good trip,
    Don't mind me and my rants, I am just expressing my frustration. I am looking forward to reading on your experience.

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