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    Palestine to sue UK for Balfour Declaration

    I'm not sure if there's a statue of limitations...

    The head of the Palestinian National Independent Assembly, Munib Al-Masri, said a London- based law firm has been hired to prosecute the British government over the Balfour Declaration, which established the UK's support for a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine and the violations committed by Britain during its mandate over Palestine.

    Al-Masri said in a statement that the decision issued by the Nablus Court of First Instance which invalidated the declaration is the first step to suing the British government in the UK.

    The case was originally filed by Palestinian lawyers on behalf of the National Independent Assembly, the International Foundation for the Follow-up of the Rights of the Palestinian People and the Palestinian Journalists' Union, against the British Government.


    Last week, the court delivered its ruling on the case which held Britain legally responsible for violating peremptory norms of international law and its violation of international norms and demanded it apologise to the Palestinian people.

    Al-Masri said there are plans to prosecute the British government to force it to apologise to the Palestinian people for the calamities that have befallen them as a result of the declaration.

    He pointed out that the British government had previously apologised to India, Cambodia, and Mau Mau people in Kenya and the State of Cyprus for the massacres it had committed against them, adding that the Palestinian people are not inferior to the rest of the world, and have the right to prosecute Britain or whoever causes harm to them and deprives them of their right to self-determination.


    The Balfour Declaration was a brief letter dated 2 November 1917 by Lord Arthur Balfour, the British foreign secretary at the time, addressing Baron Lionel Walter Rothschild, a British Zionist peer, expressing the British government's support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine.

    Palestinians hire UK-based law firm to prosecute UK gov’t over Balfour Declaration – Middle East Monitor

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Al-Masri said there are plans to prosecute the British government to force it to apologise to the Palestinian people for the calamities that have befallen them as a result of the declaration.

    He pointed out that the British government had previously apologised to India, Cambodia, and Mau Mau people in Kenya and the State of Cyprus for the massacres it had committed against them, adding that the Palestinian people are not inferior to the rest of the world, and have the right to prosecute Britain or whoever causes harm to them and deprives them of their right to self-determination.
    Not a big deal for the Brits, a moral big deal for the Palestinians I guess

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    A PR stunt, puts the PA back on a few front pages, and will be resolved with a few extra aid billions for its leaders to steal.

    Or better still not resolved, just put on the back burner for the next regime to resurrect for a few more billions.

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    Britain apologised to Cambodia for the massacre it committed?

    I presume they're referring to Thatcher's support for Pol Pot after Vietnam invaded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Britain apologised to Cambodia for the massacre it committed?

    I presume they're referring to Thatcher's support for Pol Pot after Vietnam invaded?
    That c u n t Noam Chomsky was a big supporter of the Khmer Rouge as well.

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    I can't find an official apology to Cambodia in Hansard, any idea which year? There was a debate in 1991 in which Thatcher denied involvement and later ones 2000/2004 where involvement was admitted.

    As for the Balfour agreement, it was deliberately vague and hinted of a Jewish protectorate within Palestine rather than a state that replaced Palestine. The support for a Jewish state was later in the Paris Peace Treaty 1919 and later conferences in 1921 when Churchill was Secretary of State for Colonies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    That c u n t Noam Chomsky was a big supporter of the Khmer Rouge as well.
    He's a god to some here that have no problem overlooking certain foibles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    He's a god to some here that have no problem overlooking certain foibles.
    Yeah, he only has to say bad things about 'Merika and they shove their tongues straight up his arse.

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    That c u n t Noam Chomsky was a big supporter of the Khmer Rouge as well.
    Absolute nonsense.


    As Chomsky is prevented from presenting his views, and refuses on principle to sue for defamation, it is easy to fabricate horrible charges against him, which have lingered for decades, despite easy refutation. As long ago as 1985, Christopher Hitchens went through the dull task of exposing the tedious and scurrilous lies that one finds circulating about Chomsky. The favourites of Chomsky's critics - who rarely show any sign of having read any of Chomsky's work - are that he ignored, downplayed or celebrated the atrocities of Pol Pot. The other is that he supported Robert Faurisson's Holocaust denial (the truth is simply that he supported the freedom of speech of a Holocaust denier).

    The basic facts of the Cambodia issue are these: In June 1977, Chomsky and Edward Herman published a study in the Nation, in which they reviewed how scholarship and the mainstream media treated different reports of atrocities in Cambodia
    The boring truth about Chomsky: he does not support Pol Pot - ABC News

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    Chomsky's problem was that he allowed Faurrisson to include some of his writings in his anti-semitic, Holocaust-denying book without permission sought . . . and then defended Faurrisson's rights to freedom of expression.

    Is he a self-hating Jew? I doubt it, he is more like some of the Uni profs I had who enjoyed making others uncomfortable with their self-criticism while keeping a sharp eye out for real anti-semites and Jews with their paranoia-infused view of the world.

    At the University of New South Wales I had a German-Jewish professor who loved this shit. He and my father were friends and he enjoyed the huge number of grants and books donated by the government to the German and Central European Studies Depts. and Jewish and Holocaust studies at Sydney Uni through my father.

    Of course I was enrolled in his classes and most were for adult learners - most of them Jewish for his courses. My father thought it would be both trial by fire for me as well as a good laugh for him to think of me being uncomfortable . . . and for the Prof (who also worked with the Simon Wiesenthal Centre for Australia and had me intern there for a summer) it was a chance to show a young German how old Jews who had suffered at the hands of the Nazis felt about the issue now and how Germans of my generation were informed and how we felt about that part of our history . . . it all ended up being quite cathartic for the wrinklies and interesting for me.

    Chomsky a self-hating anti-semite? Nah . . . an agent provocateur? Absolutely
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    The wanker Chomsky (as usual) was so keen to put the boot into the US that he essentially called refugees untrustworthy liars.

    Ponchaud amplified his response to Chomsky in the British introduction to his book.
    "Even before this book was translated it was sharply criticized by Mr. Noam Chomsky...and Mr. Gareth Porter....These two 'experts' on Asia claim that I am mistakenly trying to convince people that Cambodia was drowned in a sea of blood after the departure of the last American diplomats. They say there have been no massacres, and they lay the blame for the tragedy of the Khmer people on the American bombings. They accuse me of being insufficiently critical in my approach to the refugee's accounts. For them, refugees are not a valid source...it is surprising to see that 'experts' who have spoken to few if any refugees should reject their very significant place in any study of modern Cambodia. These experts would rather base their arguments on reasoning: if something seems impossible to their personal logic, then it doesn't exist. Their only sources for evaluation are deliberately chosen official statements. Where is that critical approach which they accuse others of not having?
    After the cataclysm, postwar Indochina and the reconstruction of imperial ideology : Chomsky, Noam : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

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    If somebody says uncomfortable truth it is no problem to denigrate him...(our Harry is good in that)

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    That's the thing about Chomsky actually- he is a scholar, first and foremost. His 'cause' is not the prevailing dogma of the day, political correctness, latte' liberal outrage du jour, or whether you like his findings or not- it is to the Truth, plain and simple. Inconvenient Truths that had such luminaries as Kissinger standing up and lying to the UN about it, and PC Lefties outraged when he told them (factually and correctly) that they had exaggerated the number of people killed by the Khmer rouge. This of course made him many enemies on the perpetually outraged Left, as well as his long standing ones on the perpetually outraged Right.

    And that is the great thing about the Truth. Try it sometime.

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    Fair comment, it's not easy to please both extremes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I'm not sure if there's a statue of limitations
    ...probably not, though I think there is one of Balfour in Hyde Park...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    And that is the great thing about the Truth. Try it sometime.
    Where have I not told the truth?


    Speaking of Chomski, however, we have two exponents of his type of dialogue or dogma. sabang and Skidmark . . . a bit in style, not in substance. The attempts at being 'edgy' . . . interesting but tiresome and unfulfilling after a while

    You're welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    That's the thing about Chomsky actually- he is a scholar, first and foremost. His 'cause' is not the prevailing dogma of the day, political correctness, latte' liberal outrage du jour, or whether you like his findings or not- it is to the Truth, plain and simple. Inconvenient Truths that had such luminaries as Kissinger standing up and lying to the UN about it, and PC Lefties outraged when he told them (factually and correctly) that they had exaggerated the number of people killed by the Khmer rouge. This of course made him many enemies on the perpetually outraged Left, as well as his long standing ones on the perpetually outraged Right.

    And that is the great thing about the Truth. Try it sometime.
    He is a unarguably a seppo hater.

    As for the left, he tries desperately to avoid the tag but he is a soap dodging leftie through and through.

    Let's face it, both of those are the reasons idiots like you fawn over his dull, repetitive bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...probably not, though I think there is one of Balfour in Hyde Park...
    House of Commons Private Members Lobby, but you were close...

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    The Balfour Declaration said:

    "His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

    My colour, Balfour didn't say it in yellow.

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    ...on a related topic, African countries may want to sue their colonizers for the results of the Berlin Conference of 1884 aka the Rape of Africa...this might be the beginning of an interesting trend...

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    ^ Is it too late to sue the Romans ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    ^ Is it too late to sue the Romans ?
    Yeah, what have they ever done for us?

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    Unlike the colonizers....

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    Incidentally, This is the actual Balfour Declaration-






    Note "Nothing shall be done which will prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine".

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    "A home for the Jewish people, not necessarily a Jewish state.

    That's been the crux of the matter since day one.

    The Palestinians have a good case.

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