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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    "A home for the Jewish people, not necessarily a Jewish state.
    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    That's been the crux of the matter since day one.
    Just like the ridiculously phrased:
    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed





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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    "A home for the Jewish people, not necessarily a Jewish state.

    That's been the crux of the matter since day one.

    The Palestinians have a good case.
    And some today like to claim there never was a Palestine but always Israel...

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    Just think, at one point the Jewish state could have been in Tasmania.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    And some today like to claim there never was a Palestine but always Israel...
    That's because you're fucked in the head and invent shit. Keep drinking tovarish.



    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Just think, at one point the Jewish state could have been in Tasmania.
    Or several parts of Africa

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    ^ And one single post of mine elsewhere is described by you as "revolting" ? I'd say that your constant, everyday denigration of Klondyke is disgraceful, irrespective of whether he is right or wrong.
    You utter hypocrite.

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    ^Let him embarrass himself more and more in his Ignorancy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Just think, at one point the Jewish state could have been in Tasmania.
    Why not in Germany as once suggest old lady Helen Thomas, the First Lady of press corps at WH. Sitting there without getting a chance to ask honorable GWB. He instead called unknown imposters who got predescribed questions.
    She, however, got it back from the obedient press: how she could dare to ask such politically incorrect question...

    BTW, has is it now with asking inconvenient questions? Just curious...

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    Probably because the Basel Program 1897 wanted a Jewish state within Palestine. It rejected alternatives such as East Africa (Kenya).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    ^Let him embarrass himself more and more in his Ignorancy...
    yes, my "ignorancy" <sic> . . . you and Karen get along so well. OhNo will be sad.




    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Probably because the Basel Program 1897 wanted a Jewish state within Palestine. It rejected alternatives such as East Africa (Kenya).
    But then Herzl wanted a Jewish homeland in Uganda/Kenya . . . it's surprising that history, which the Jewish state uses as a justification for its existence wasn't that important to many prominent Jews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    yes, my "ignorancy" <sic> . . . you and Karen get along so well. OhNo will be sad.






    But then Herzl wanted a Jewish homeland in Uganda/Kenya . . . it's surprising that history, which the Jewish state uses as a justification for its existence wasn't that important to many prominent Jews.
    It's been a long time since I studied this and memories are known to play tricks. However, I was under the impression that the British proposed the idea and it was agreed to have a look at the area in East Africa but later rejected. I'm not sure Herzl wanted a settlement in Africa to replace one in Palestine, certainly the idea met with angry opposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    yes, my "ignorancy" <sic> . . .
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    Pity that in your Ignorancy you do not know the word “Ignorancy”...

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    Agree with Latin Dancer, anyone who has different views than them has been called names.. It's not the first time, I called out the guy who did that with me and dared him to come to CM to throw insults face to face to see how it would go ...silence, no need to name him he should know who he is, keyboard warriors acting though only when sheltered behind their screens I guess..

    Since then I don't even bother to react when he does it on other topics, he's been called out and he didn't do anything... Coward
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    ^ sadly its creepy's MO and stalking down personal details. He's a nut job with buttons or access to those who do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farang Ky Ay View Post
    It's not the first time, I called out the guy who did that with me and dared him to come to CM to throw insults face to face to see how it would go
    Wow, now I get scared making this reply to your post. Were you in the SAS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by strigils View Post
    ^ sadly its creepy's MO and stalking down personal details. He's a nut job with buttons or access to those who do.
    Umm . . . do you even know who he's talking about or are you still/again drunk?


    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    However, I was under the impression that the British proposed the idea and it was agreed to have a look at the area in East Africa but later rejected. I'm not sure Herzl wanted a settlement in Africa to replace one in Palestine, certainly the idea met with angry opposition.
    Herzl was a proponent of the 'temporary' settlement in Uganda/Kenya . . . and I'm not sure how long he planned for the Jew to stay, to be honest. You're quite right in that it was originally a British proposal.

    I have found a good article with acceptable details:

    1903: Herzl proposes Kenya (not Uganda) as a safe haven for the Jews - Jewish World - Haaretz.com
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    double post

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Herzl was a proponent of the 'temporary' settlement in Uganda/Kenya
    Thank god that didn't happen, they would have stolen the whole Africa by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Thank god that didn't happen, they would have stolen the whole Africa by now.
    Might have run it better than, say, Somalia, Ethiopia, Zimbabwe....

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Might have run it better than, say, Somalia, Ethiopia, Zimbabwe....
    After such kind help of the colonizers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Wow, now I get scared making this reply to your post. Were you in the SAS?
    Don't need to be "scared", if one randomly (as uncalled for, just because you have a different view on the topic) insult you and double down when you highlight it, the only thing I thought to do was to check if he can walk the walk ... apparently he couldn't. Offer is still on the table though.

    End of story you won't see me threatening anyone without a reason, don't try to punk me if you can't stand being called out for it, not overly complicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farang Ky Ay View Post
    Don't need to be "scared", if one randomly (as uncalled for, just because you have a different view on the topic) insult you and double down when you highlight it, the only thing I thought to do was to check if he can walk the walk ... apparently he couldn't. Offer is still on the table though.

    End of story you won't see me threatening anyone without a reason, don't try to punk me if you can't stand being called out for it, not overly complicated.
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    Palestine to sue UK for Balfour Declaration-cmplp-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farang Ky Ay View Post
    Don't need to be "scared", if one randomly (as uncalled for, just because you have a different view on the topic) insult you and double down when you highlight it, the only thing I thought to do was to check if he can walk the walk ... apparently he couldn't. Offer is still on the table though.

    End of story you won't see me threatening anyone without a reason, don't try to punk me if you can't stand being called out for it, not overly complicated.
    ...
    Mate, it's the Internet. Get a grip of yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Herzl was a proponent of the 'temporary' settlement in Uganda/Kenya . . . and I'm not sure how long he planned for the Jew to stay, to be honest. You're quite right in that it was originally a British proposal.

    I have found a good article with acceptable details:

    1903: Herzl proposes Kenya (not Uganda) as a safe haven for the Jews - Jewish World - Haaretz.com
    Good article, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Mate, it's the Internet. Get a grip of yourself.
    I'm fine, just feel that one TD tough guy might need a reality check ...see if he would say as much shit face to face as when hidden behind his keyboard.
    He didn't take me on my offer (yet), who knows he could beat me as I'm not Rambo...up to him I'd gladly make myself available to settle this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farang Ky Ay View Post
    I'm fine, just feel that one TD tough guy might need a reality check ...see if he would say as much shit face to face as when hidden behind his keyboard.
    He didn't take me on my offer (yet), who knows he could beat me as I'm not Rambo...up to him I'd gladly make myself available to settle this.
    But that's all it is: the internet. People writing things to pixels on a screen that they probably wouldn't say in real life- because we're just usernames fooling around on a board for a bit of fun.

    The odds are that many of the people flinging shit at each other day in day out would probably get along perfectly fine if they ever met in the real world.

    You shouldn't let it bother you.
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