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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Translation: The chinkies want their corrupt little puppies in charge so they can steal what they fucking like.



    mmm it I am not sure the end game for China here is theft of a few shekels

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    mmm it I am not sure the end game for China here is theft of a few shekels
    Perhaps I was too simple for you.

    With a pliant leadership, they can build what they like, appropriate villagers land and overproduce from it leaving poisoned soil in it's place, or build factories, and generally rape the country's resources at will.

    Do you think they do this for fun or profit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    With a pliant leadership, they can
    . . . have naval, and therefore aerial, access to the Indian Ocean . . . trade routes all the way from the ME to their doorstep

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    . . . have naval, and therefore aerial, access to the Indian Ocean . . . trade routes all the way from the ME to their doorstep
    And more bananas.

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    Myanmar junta blocks Facebook as opposition grows to coup


    (Reuters) - Myanmar’s junta blocked Facebook in the name of ensuring stability on Thursday and activists said at least three people were arrested at a street protest against the coup that ousted elected leader Aung San Suu Kyi.

    Nobel Peace laureate Suu Kyi faces charges for illegally importing communications equipment after the army takeover on Monday that has drawn Western condemnation and calls on the junta to respect her party’s landslide victory in November elections.


    Opposition to the junta has emerged very strongly on Facebook, which is the country’s main internet platform and underpins communications for business and government. Facebook’s WhatsApp messaging was also blocked.


    Facebook was still available sporadically and demonstrators in the second city of Mandalay used it to livestream the first such street protest since the coup in a country with a bloody history of crackdowns on demonstrations.


    “People’s protest against military coup,” read one of the banners.


    The group of around 20 people chanted: “Our arrested leaders, release now, release now.”


    Three people were arrested after the protest, three separate student groups said. Reuters was unable to contact police for comment.


    The social network has also been used to share images of a campaign of disobedience by staff at government hospitals across the country, with doctors stopping work or wearing ribbons in the red colour of Suu Kyi’s National League for Democracy.


    Pictures shared on Wednesday showed workers at the agriculture ministry joining the campaign too.


    “UNFAIR COUP”


    Other signs of anger have emerged. For two nights, people in Yangon and other cities have banged on pots and pans and honked car horns, with images circulating widely on Facebook.

    “Lights are shining in the dark,” said Min Ko Naing, a veteran of past campaigns against military rule, in a call to action. “We need to show how many people are against this unfair coup.”


    The Ministry of Communications and Information said Facebook, used by half of Myanmar’s more than 53 million people, would be blocked until Feb. 7 because users were “spreading fake news and misinformation and causing misunderstanding”.


    Suu Kyi has not been seen since her arrest along with other party leaders.


    The NLD won about 80% of the vote in the Nov. 8 polls, according to the election commission, a result the military has refused to accept, citing unsubstantiated allegations of fraud.


    The United Nations said it would ratchet up international pressure to ensure the will of the people is respected.


    “We will do everything we can to mobilize all the key actors and international community to put enough pressure on Myanmar to make sure that this coup fails,” United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said during an interview broadcast by The Washington Post on Wednesday.


    PRIORITY FOR WASHINGTON
    Addressing the coup in Myanmar was a priority for the United States and Washington was reviewing possible sanctions in response, the White House said on Wednesday.


    President Joe Biden discussed the situation in calls with the leaders of South Korea and Australia, the White House said.


    The chair of the ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) Parliamentarians for Human Rights, Charles Santiago, said the charges against Suu Kyi were ludicrous.


    “This is an absurd move by the junta to try to legitimize their illegal power grab,” he said in a statement.


    Police said six walkie-talkie radios had been found in a search of Suu Kyi’s home in Naypyidaw that were imported illegally and used without permission.


    The NLD itself has yet to comment on the charges.


    Suu Kyi spent about 15 years under house arrest between 1989 and 2010 as she led the country’s democracy movement, and she remains hugely popular at home despite damage to her international reputation over the plight of Muslim Rohingya refugees.


    The military had ruled Myanmar from 1962 until Suu Kyi’s party came to power in 2015 under a constitution that guarantees the generals a major role in government.


    The junta headed by Army chief General Min Aung Hlaing has declared a one-year state of emergency and has promised to hold fair elections, but has not said when.


    Norway’s Telenor Asa, Myanmar’s leading mobile network operator, said it had no choice but to comply with the directive to block Facebook.


    “Telenor does not believe that the request is based on necessity and proportionality, in accordance with international human rights law,” it said in a statement.


    Facebook spokesman Andy Stone urged authorities to restore connectivity “so that people in Myanmar can communicate with their families and friends and access important information”.


    Some people used VPNs to evade the blockage. Twitter, which was not blocked, saw an increase in new users. #CivilDisobedienceMovement was the top trending hashtag in the country, with #JusticeForMyanmar close behind.

    Myanmar junta blocks Facebook as opposition grows to coup | Reuters

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    And more bananas.
    . . . I rather thought that was a given

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    Suu Kyi Detained Because Private Security Staff Had Unlicensed Walkie-Talkies


    A Myanmar court has granted a police request to detain ousted leader Aung Sang Suu Kyi until 15th February for illegally importing and using communications equipment, members of her National League for Democracy said Wednesday.


    A leaked police document circulating among local journalists showed the police seeking remand for Suu Kyi to be detained at home until then, after private security staff at her Naypyitaw residence were found to be holding unlicensed walkie-talkies following Monday’s military coup.


    The document shows police seeking charges for the offence under the export-import law that is punishable by up to three years in prison.


    The court also granted permission for police to detain ousted President Win Myint for two weeks for having violated coronavirus restrictions last September when he observed an NLD election rally in front of his Naypyitaw home involving over 200 cars.


    The Myanmar military has released about 400 people, including lawmakers of the formerly ruling party, and has ordered them to go home, lawmakers from the party said Wednesday.


    When the military seized power, many NLD lawmakers were in the capital Naypyitaw ahead of a new session of the 664-seat bicameral parliament that was to convene later in the day. The NLD won 396 seats in a November general election.


    The military said late Tuesday that it has established a “State Administration Council” headed by its commander in chief, which will serve as the nation’s highest decision-making body during a one-year state of emergency imposed after the coup.


    With coup leader Senior Gen Min Aung Hlaing serving as its chairman, the 11-member council is tasked with launching a new election commission and other undertakings. The move signalled military rule has begun in earnest.


    The military, whose vast business interests in Myanmar were detailed in a recent report by Amnesty International, disputes the results of the November general election, which was won decisively by the NLD, and says a new “free and fair” election will be held, with power handed over to the winning party.


    The newly created council includes three civilian members, who are all critical of Suu Kyi, who was Myanmar’s civilian leader since 2016.


    Earlier on Tuesday, the military held its first government meeting in Naypyitaw since taking power. At the meeting, Min Aung Hlaing said he took over power because he “had no other choice”, according to an official statement from the military’s information service.


    The statement quoted the general as saying that despite making repeated requests to avoid this situation, “the takeover was inevitable”, adding that “until a government is formed after the next election, the military needs to steer the country.”


    Participants in the meeting included 11 newly appointed Cabinet ministers as well as acting President Myint Swe.


    The Japanese government said Wednesday that it has determined that developments in Myanmar amounted to a military coup. But its top spokesman, Katsunobu Kato, did not address what would happen to Japanese aid to the Southeast Asian country.


    Kato’s remarks came hours after the US government said it has determined the military takeover constitutes a coup, an assessment triggering certain restrictions on foreign assistance, as well as a “broader review” of aid programmes to the country.


    Also Wednesday, foreign ministers of the Group of Seven industrialised countries issued a joint statement condemning the coup and calling for the release of all people “unjustly detained”.


    “We are deeply concerned by the detention of political leaders and civil society activists, including State Counsellor Aung San Suu Kyi and President Win Myint,” the G-7 said in the statement.


    Members of the UN Security Council, meanwhile, held a closed-door online meeting on Tuesday to discuss the Myanmar situation but failed to come up with a collective response after China and Russia requested more time to assess the matter, according to a diplomatic source.


    Suu Kyi Detained Because Private Security Staff Had Unlicensed Walkie-Talkies | Chiang Mai One

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    This of course is in no way politically motivated as Hoohoo will be along soon to explain.

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    A large scale uprising resulting in a kick in the teeth for the military would be beneficial right now. Not sure the people have enough in their heart to fight for it though.

    If they did, and it worked then neighbouring countries could see similar.

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    I remember this law about transceivers, in one SEA country ...I forget which one. It dated back to before the days of mobile phones.

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    She tickled the crocodiles belly and it bit her. You dont need to be an expert on SE Asian politics to know that trying to appease a murderous corrupt regime was always going to end in the ladys demise

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    After Facebook ban, thousands in Myanmar take to Twitter to plead #RespectOurVotes


    SINGAPORE (Reuters) - Since Myanmar’s new military rulers imposed a temporary blockade on Facebook on Thursday, thousands in the Southeast Asian country have joined Twitter, according to app downloads and a Reuters estimate.

    Many are using the platform and pro-democracy hashtags to criticize the army’s takeover and call for peaceful protests until the result of November’s election, which was won in a landslide by Aung San Suu Kyi’s party, is respected.


    The hashtags #RespectOurVotes, #HearTheVoiceofMyanmar, and #SaveMyanmar all had hundreds of thousands of interactions by Friday, according to hashtag tracker BrandMentions.


    The junta seized power on Monday in a coup against the democratically elected government of Suu Kyi in response to what the army said was “election fraud.”

    Military authorities banned Facebook Inc - which counts half of the population as users - until at least February 7th for the sake of “stability”, after the junta’s opponents began using the platform to organize.


    But it took several hours for internet providers to enforce the ban, during which time activists began creating Twitter accounts and sharing them on their Facebook profiles, according to a review of social media messages.


    Twitter was by Friday among the top five most downloaded apps on both the Google and Apple stores, according to data from research firm SensorTower.

    Out of around 1,500 new Twitter accounts reviewed by Reuters and activated in the last two days using Myanmar related hashtags, most identified themselves as being opposed to the military government, while a handful of accounts were pro-military and posted links to the junta’s press releases.


    Some pro-democracy activists used the hashtag #MilkTeaAlliance, to appeal for support to cross-border youth movements pushing for democracy.


    The hashtag, which started in Thailand in April, is used prominently by Hong Kong, Thai, and Taiwanese activists, with Twitter becoming a key soapbox for the region’s pro-democracy activists.


    Twitter declined to comment on the surge of users in Myanmar.

    After Facebook ban, thousands in Myanmar take to Twitter to plead #RespectOurVotes | Reuters

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    Myanmar police step up arrests as anti-coup protests grow


    (Reuters) - Myanmar police arrested another key aide of ousted leader Aung San Suu Kyi and media said at least 30 people had been detained over pot-banging protests against a military coup as shows of anger gathered pace on Friday.

    International pressure on the junta was also growing with the U.N. Security Council calling for the release of Suu Kyi and other leaders and U.S. President Joe Biden considering sanctions on the ruling generals.


    The latest high-profile detainee was 79-year-old Win Htein, a stalwart of Suu Kyi who was repeatedly imprisoned during their decades of struggling against previous juntas that led to the unsteady transition to democracy that began in 2011.


    “We have been treated badly continuously for a long time,” he told Reuters by telephone as he was being taken away by police. “I have never been scared of them because I have done nothing wrong my entire life.”

    Reuters was unable to reach police for comment on his arrest or what charges could be brought against him.

    In Myanmar’s second city of Mandalay, 30 people were arrested over pot-banging protests which have taken place for the last three nights against Monday’s coup, media reported.

    Eleven Media quoted Maung Maung Aye, deputy head of the regional police force as saying they were accused of breaking a law against “causing noise in public streets”. A teenager was among others arrested elsewhere over the noisy protests.

    There has been no outpouring of people onto the streets in a country with a bloody history of crackdowns on protests, but there were signs of coup opponents growing bolder - with dozens of youths parading in the southeastern city of Dawei.


    ‘UPHOLD DEMOCRATIC PROCESSES’

    A campaign of disobedience also gathered pace with some teachers joining work stoppages that began with doctors in government hospitals. Students at Yangon’s Dagon University held a protest march on campus.

    “We don’t want this military coup which unlawfully seized power from our elected government,” said lecturer Nwe Thazin Hlaing at the Yangon University of Education. “We want the military coup to fail.”

    Army chief Min Aung Hlaing took power citing alleged irregularities in a November election that Suu Kyi’s party won in a landslide. The electoral commission has said the vote was fair.

    The 15-member U.N. Security Council released a statement on Thursday stressing the “need to uphold democratic institutions and processes, refrain from violence, and fully respect human rights, fundamental freedoms and the rule of law.”

    Language in the statement nonetheless made no mention of a coup - apparently to win support from China and Russia, which have traditionally sided with Myanmar. Both countries have ties to the military and China has large economic interests in its neighbour.

    China’s U.N. mission said Beijing hoped the key messages in the statement “could be heeded by all sides and lead to a positive outcome”.


    Reuters was not immediately able to reach the Myanmar government for comment.


    Nobel Peace laureate Suu Kyi, 75, has not been seen since her arrest in morning raids on Monday. Police have filed charges against her for illegally importing and using six walkie-talkie radios found at her home.

    ‘CREDIBLE ELECTION’


    Biden said the United States was working with allies and partners to address the generals’ takeover.


    “There can be no doubt in a democracy force should never seek to overrule the will of the people or attempt to erase the outcome of a credible election,” he said.


    The White House said national security adviser Jake Sullivan spoke by phone with ambassadors from the Association of South East Asian Nations (ASEAN), a 10-member bloc to which Myanmar - also known as Burma - belongs.

    Sullivan earlier told a news briefing the Biden administration was looking at targeted sanctions on individuals and on entities controlled by the military.

    The leaders of Malaysia and Indonesia said ASEAN foreign ministers would be asked to hold a special meeting to discuss the situation.

    It is unclear how effective sanctions would be as Myanmar’s generals have few overseas interests that could be targeted.

    The military does, however, have extensive interests in the domestic economy and could pay a price if foreign companies that have invested over the past decade decide to pull out.

    Japanese drinks giant Kirin Holdings said on Friday it is terminating its alliance with a top Myanmar conglomerate whose owners, according to the United Nations, include members of the military. Kirin said the coup had “shaken the very foundation of the partnership”.

    Suu Kyi spent about 15 years under house arrest between 1989 and 2010 as she fought for democracy in a country that has been under military rule for most of the past six decades.

    She remains hugely popular at home despite damage to her international reputation over the plight of Muslim Rohingya refugees.


    Myanmar police step up arrests as anti-coup protests grow | Reuters

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    Thousands protest Myanmar coup despite internet ban

    Thousands of people took to the streets of Yangon on Saturday to denounce this week’s coup and demand the release of elected leader Aung San Suu Kyi despite a blockade on the internet by the junta.

    In an upwelling of anger in the country’s largest city protesters chanted, “Military dictator, fail, fail; Democracy, win, win” and held banners reading “Against military dictatorship”. Bystanders offered them food and water.


    Many in the crowd wore red, the colour of Suu Kyi’s National League for Democracy (NLD) which won Nov. 8 elections in a landslide, a result the generals have refused to recognise claiming fraud.


    Yangon streets had a festival atmosphere late Saturday as a cacophony of car horns blared and thousands marched toward City Hall. Drivers leaned out of their cars and raised the three-finger salute. Bystanders returned the gesture. Some held up NLD flags or pictures of Suu Kyi. Many clapped and danced.


    The protest built despite a blockade of the internet imposed after they first began to gather.

    MORE Thousands protest Myanmar coup despite internet ban | Reuters

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    It's good to see the trad military take over again. Might save another country from modernity

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Surely she will donate all her likes/todays income from her blog, to a suitable "charity". Asians eh, making money while the sun shines every day of the year.
    I can't stop watching that clip.

    There is something addictively hilarious about the way she gets into the funkiest part of the routine with the wiggle-wiggle side-slipping and the mock-boxing just when the coup convoy rumbles down the avenue.

    I wish I could find more clips of her. They must exist if she does this stuff regularly but the only thing you find when you google her name 'Khing Hnin Wai' is the viral one.

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    Protests sweep Myanmar to oppose coup, support Suu Kyi


    Reuters) - Tens of thousands of people rallied across Myanmar on Sunday to denounce last week’s coup and demand the release of elected leader Aung San Suu Kyi, in the biggest protests since the 2007 Saffron Revolution that helped lead to democratic reforms.

    In a second day of widespread protests, crowds in the biggest city, Yangon, sported red shirts, red flags and red balloons, the colour of Suu Kyi’s National League for Democracy Party (NLD).


    “We don’t want military dictatorship! We want democracy!” they chanted.


    On Sunday afternoon, the junta ended a day-long blockade of the internet that had further inflamed anger since the coup last Monday that has halted the Southeast Asian nation’s troubled transition to democracy and drawn international outrage.


    Massive crowds from all corners of Yangon gathered in townships, filling streets as they headed towards the Sule Pagoda at the heart of the city, also a rallying point during the Buddhist monk-led 2007 protests and others in 1988.


    A line of armed police with riot shields set up barricades, but did not try to stop the demonstration. Some marchers presented police with flowers as a sign of peace.


    Protesters gestured with the three-finger salute that has become a symbol of protest against the coup. Drivers honked their horns and passengers held up photos of Suu Kyi.


    “We don’t want a dictatorship for the next generation,” said 21-year-old Thaw Zin. “We will not finish this revolution until we make history. We will fight to the end.”


    There was no comment from the junta in the capital Naypyitaw, more than 350 km (220 miles) north of Yangon and state-run television news carried no mention of the protests.

    An internal note for U.N. staff estimated that 1,000 people joined a protest in Naypyidaw while there were 60,000 in Yangon alone. Protests were reported in the second city of Mandalay and many towns and even villages across the country of 53 million people that stretches from Indian Ocean islands to the fringes of the Himalayas.


    The demonstrations have largely been peaceful, unlike the bloody crackdowns seen in 1998 and 2007.


    But shots were heard in the southeastern town of Myawaddy as uniformed police with guns charged a group of a couple of hundred protesters, live video showed. Pictures of protesters afterwards showed what appeared to be rubber bullet injuries.


    “ANYTHING’S POSSIBLE”


    “Anti-coup protests show every sign of gaining steam. On the one hand, given history, we can well expect the reaction to come,” wrote author and historian Thant Myint-U on Twitter.


    “On the other, Myanmar society today is entirely different from 1988 and even 2007. Anything’s possible.”


    With no internet and official information scarce, rumours swirled about the fate of Suu Kyi and her cabinet. A story that she had been released drew crowds out to celebrate on Saturday, but it was quickly quashed by her lawyer.


    Suu Kyi, 75, faces charges of illegally importing six walkie-talkies and is being held in police detention for investigation until Feb. 15. Her lawyer said he has not been allowed to see her.


    She won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1991 for campaigning for democracy, and spent nearly 15 years under house arrest during decades of struggling to end almost half a century of army rule before the start of a troubled transition to democracy in 2011.


    Army commander Min Aung Hlaing carried out the coup on the grounds of fraud in a Nov. 8 election in which Suu Kyi’s party won a landslide. The electoral commission dismissed the allegations of malpractice.


    More than 160 people have been arrested since the military seized power, said Thomas Andrews, the United Nations special rapporteur on Myanmar.


    “The generals are now attempting to paralyse the citizen movement of resistance - and keep the outside world in the dark - by cutting virtually all internet access,” Andrews said in a statement on Sunday.


    “We must all stand with the people of Myanmar in their hour of danger and need. They deserve nothing less.”

    Protests sweep Myanmar to oppose coup, support Suu Kyi | Reuters

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    Police in Myanmar have fired rubber bullets during a demonstration in the capital Nay Pyi Taw, as thousands defied a ban on protests.


    Water cannon and tear gas have also been used against protesters, and one woman is in hospital with a critical head injury.


    News agencies quoted doctors as saying they had seen wounds from live bullets.


    Protesters are standing against a military coup that removed the elected government last week.


    A ban on large public gatherings and night-time curfews has been instigated in some cities, with military leader Min Aung Hlaing warning that no-one is above the law.


    The demonstrators are demanding the release of elected leader Aung San Suu Kyi, along with senior leaders of her National League for Democracy Party (NLD). She was arrested when the military seized power and declared a year-long state of emergency on 1 February.


    Tuesday was the fourth consecutive day of protests. In the evening, the NLD said its party headquarters in Yangon had been "raided and destroyed" by the military.


    In its first acknowledgement of the protests, Myanmar's state TV said police had also been injured while trying to disperse "aggressive" protesters. It said a police truck was destroyed in the city of Mandalay.







    Yangon resident Nelly, 18, (not her real name), described the scenes outside her house as "total chaos".


    "My biggest fear is our safety, because there are lots of people on the roads protesting but there is also a lot of violence from police officers. We don't know when we'll be shot at or when they will arrest us," she told BBC Outside Source on World Service radio.


    How did the situation escalate?

    Earlier on Tuesday, police began using water cannon against protesters in Nay Pyi Taw - but the crowd refused to retreat.


    "End the military dictatorship," people yelled. Some threw projectiles at police, witnesses said.


    Warning shots were eventually fired into the air, before rubber bullets were fired at protesters.


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    image captionProtesters in Nay Pyi Taw were also hit by water cannon
    According to BBC Burmese, who spoke to an unnamed medical officer from a Nay Pyi Taw hospital, one woman suffered a serious head injury and another demonstrator had chest injuries. It is not yet clear how exactly they were wounded.


    Reuters news agency spoke with a doctor who said X-rays indicated live ammunition had been used against the woman.


    AFP also quoted an emergency room doctor who believed the military was using live rounds, citing injuries to a 23-year-old man and a 19-year-old.


    "We believe they are actual bullets because of the wounds and their injuries," the doctor said.


    On social media, footage and photographs were widely circulated which purported to show the critically injured woman being shot. The footage showed a woman in a motorbike helmet collapsing. Pictures showed what appeared to be a blood-stained helmet. The BBC has not verified this.


    The United Nations voiced "strong concern" over Tuesday's bloodshed. "The use of disproportionate force against demonstrators is unacceptable," said Ola Almgren, the UN resident co-ordinator and humanitarian coordinator in Myanmar, also known as Burma.


    There have been numerous unconfirmed reports of police officers crossing over to join protesters. In some areas, police also allowed demonstrators through their barricades.


    Previous protests against the country's decades-long military rule, in 1988 and 2007, saw demonstrators killed.




    'Police are for the people'

    Nyein Chan Aye, BBC Burmese, Yangon


    The regime's warnings drew bigger crowds in Yangon on Tuesday - estimated at more than 100,000 people.


    Demonstrators gathered early and were joined by celebrities.


    "Police are for the people" and "Soldiers are not supposed to kill civilians", chanted protesters.


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    image captionProtesters in Yangon have turned out for a fourth day
    The biggest crowds were near Yangon University and in the city centre, which have become meeting points for demonstrators. Authorities blocked the intersection of Hledan Junction and University Avenue with water cannon, and clashes nearly broke out between students and police.


    People in Yangon are angry that security forces used rubber bullets and injured a number of people in Nay Pyi Taw. But protesters peacefully headed home as night curfews began.


    The military, on the other hand, appears to have used the curfew to raid NLD HQs in Yangon on Tuesday. Locals who witnessed the raids and a member of the NLD told BBC Burmese that security forces broke down doors by force. No NLD members were present in the building.




    What are protesters saying?

    "We come here well aware of the ban over gatherings of more than five people," one young male protester in Yangon told BBC Burmese.


    "However, we come out because we have to protest until the president and Mother Suu are freed," he added, referring to leader Aung San Suu Kyi, who has not been heard from since being placed under house arrest.







    A female protester, who also did not want to be named, said: "Young people have their future, so we can't tolerate this... We will keep on fighting until we get our president and Mother Suu back, whatever it takes."


    She said young protesters wanted to avoid confrontations with military.


    Even though Ms Suu Kyi's record on human rights has previously been criticised internationally, she remains very popular in the country. Her win in the 2020 election was confirmed by various overseas monitoring bodies.


    How is the military reacting?

    On Monday, Gen Min Aung Hlaing gave his first televised address since the coup. He insisted the seizure of power was justified due to "voter fraud", accusing the electoral commission of failing to investigate irregularities over voter lists in November's election.


    The commission had said there was no evidence to support claims of widespread fraud.


    Ms Suu Kyi and various senior leaders from the NLD, including President Win Myint, were detained on 1 February.


    Gen Min Aung Hlaing promised new elections overseen by a new "reformed" election commission, and said the military would hand power to the winner.


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    image captionSome areas have begun to see military clampdowns
    He also said his rule would be "different" from what was effectively a 49-year military grip on power that ended in 2011.


    He spoke of achieving a "true and disciplined democracy", a phrase that drew scorn from some opponents of the coup on social media.






    On Tuesday, New Zealand announced that it would be suspending all high-level contact with Myanmar and imposing a travel ban on its military leaders.


    It was the first major international move to isolate Myanmar's military since it took power.


    The US also called for freedom of expression to be upheld. "We strongly condemn violence against demonstrators," a spokesman for the state department said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    On Tuesday, New Zealand announced that it would be suspending all high-level contact with Myanmar and imposing a travel ban on its military leaders.
    Another empty PR Schtick my Teflon Jacinda . . . excellent at meaningless crap. A travel ban . . . what a needy slimeball

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    Fair comment, virtue signalling, though I would guess NZ is still dealing/trading with China, the rest of Asia which is no stranger to human rights violation, Saudi and Gulf could do better, most of Africa and SAmerica are basket cases in that respect, and there are probably a few other countries that do not make the grade. Even Thailand is not above the occasional coup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Fair comment, virtue signalling, though I would guess NZ is still dealing/trading with China, the rest of Asia which is no stranger to human rights violation, Saudi and Gulf could do better, most of Africa and SAmerica are basket cases in that respect, and there are probably a few other countries that do not make the grade.
    Of course, and they're happy to do so over the shredded remains of China's stance towards Australia . . . any chance for a quick buck. This comes hot off the heels that Air New Zealand is doing work for the Saudi ships blockading Yemen, including humanitarian aid. Her response: Why didn't the previous government do anything about that (the previous government was hers . . . the one before that was a National government, four years ago) . . . she is indeed vile

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    human rights violation, Saudi and Gulf could do better, most of Africa and SAmerica are basket cases in that respect, and there are probably a few other countries that do not make the grade.
    Including many of the so-called "civilised western democracies".

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    Keep up your anti-west tirades, Chinaman . . . your brethren in China will thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    This of course is in no way politically motivated
    One person's analysis of the situation:

    Myanmar coup infused with geopolitical intrigue

    India sides with US condemnation of putsch but its interests would be better served alongside China and Russia’s more nuanced response

    by MK Bhadrakumar February 9, 2021

    "The Indian government made a strident call on February 1 that the “rule of law and the democratic process must be upheld” in Myanmar.

    The statement, following a prodding from Washington, was unabashedly intrusive, and, ironically, completely overlooked the fact that human rights, rule of law, democratic pluralism and so on are universal values that India also can (and should) be held accountable for.

    Lapping up the neo-conservative prescriptions from Washington may not serve India’s interests in general, and they are very specific to Myanmar.


    The Indian government failed to fathom the United States’ motivations for riding the high horse of democracy so soon after the Capitol riots in Washington, DC. Human rights issues come handy for the US to rally allies at a juncture when its leadership of the trans-Atlantic alliance is adrift and major European powers do not see eye to eye with its global strategies on Russia and China and mock its nostalgia-laden slogan that “America is back.”

    Alas, the Indian government failed to consult the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) despite New Delhi’s refrain that it attributes “centrality” to that grouping. The ASEAN chair’s statement of February 1 recalled the “purposes and the principles enshrined in the ASEAN Charter, which include respecting the principles of sovereignty, equality, territorial integrity, non-interference, consensus and unity in diversity.”

    Simply put, India chose to bandwagon with the US, Japan and Australia while ASEAN and China took a differentiated stance. Geopolitics crept in. But the US has since realized that folly and national security adviser Jake Sullivan scrambled to contact the ASEAN ambassadors in Washington.

    How come New Delhi goofed? Primarily, it is because of a flawed understanding of the Myanmar situation.

    Indian analysts increasingly view world developments through their China prism, and began fancying that the massive victory of Aung San Suu Kyi in the November election provided an opportunity for India to “gear up to implement a major strategy with Myanmar under its

    ‘Neighborhood First’ policy …

    To bring Myanmar under the Indo-Pacific construct” so as to align that country “more with ‘like-minded’ countries …

    To stand firm against China …

    To make Myanmar a part of the Indo-Pacific policy …

    To steer Myanmar away from the Chinese grip.”


    Such views betray a zero-sum mindset borne out of blind Sinophobia. However, the ground realities are much more complex. The point is, Beijing brilliantly succeeded over the years in building a close relationship of mutual trust and mutual respect with Suu Kyi, parallel to the nurturing of links between the Communist Party of China and her party, the National League for Democracy.

    Unlike the Western narrative of Suu Kyi as Myanmar’s democracy icon, Beijing regarded her as a pragmatic politician who never uttered remarks to the detriment of China-Myanmar ties, was manifestly eager to maintain good relations, and consistently adopted a soft stance on the South China Sea issue.

    Beijing was greatly impressed that although Suu Kyi wanted Western support, she was adamant about national sovereignty. Arguably, it was in sync with what China would like its neighbors to practice. Chinese President Xi Jinping has received Suu Kyi seven times since 2015.

    Chinese State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi visited Myanmar on January 12, met with Suu Kyi and expressed strong support for her government and conveyed a strong commitment that China wants to work with her during her second term. And they agreed to push ahead with Belt and Road projects and lock in a five-year pact on trade and economic cooperation.


    Clearly, the prospect for the China-Myanmar Economic Corridor under the Belt and Road Initiative has become uncertain now, as compared with a month ago.

    In fact, Chinese media reports have already sounded a word of caution that “Chinese companies operating in Myanmar need to watch out for contractual and default risks amid the current political upheaval.…

    “Government default is a major risk, especially for major and strategic projects in sectors including transportation and energy.… But Chinese companies can seek international arbitration if they face illegal confiscation of their property.”

    It is no secret that the Myanmar army marks a certain distance from China. Suffice to say, Myanmar developments present an extraordinary case study where Beijing silently feels distressed over the sudden eclipse of Western-style democracy in a neighboring country.

    Surely, the coup creates political baggage for China insofar as it cannot (and will not) take a position against the military, but also comes under compulsion to cover or provide protection for the military internationally.

    On the whole, this situation poses a major political and diplomatic liability for Beijing and cannot bring good news. Therefore, China prioritizes that the concerned parties solve their differences mutually, according to the constitution and within the legal framework, while maintaining peace and stability. Chinese expert opinion is that Suu Kyi’s political career is in jeopardy.


    Of course, Suu Kyi made some serious errors, too. She heavily depended on people loyal to her personally, without bothering about their competence or integrity. That not only spawned corruption but also led to government failure to deliver, especially in job creation.

    Her leadership style was often dictatorial. She resorted to draconian laws to muzzle or jail critics.

    Suu Kyi had no control over some major sectors of the national economy, including Myanmar Economic Holdings Ltd and Myanmar Economic Corporation, as well as a network of domestic private business enterprises, known as “crony companies,” which generate revenue for the military and strengthen its autonomy.

    Suu Kyi’s biggest mistake was believing that she could, through her brand of nationalism, dismiss accusations of genocide directed against the Rohingya. In the process, she lost Western support. From that point, she has been on borrowed time, and the military barely hid its distaste for her.


    To be sure, the military anticipated the impact and the reaction from the international community and took into consideration the new US administration’s preoccupations with domestic issues. Myanmar doesn’t even figure in the top 10 priorities of President Joe Biden’s foreign policy.


    But the US Congress is not going to tolerate a coup in Myanmar and will mount pressure on the Biden administration to punish the military by imposing sanctions, cutting aid or targeting the generals and their companies.

    However, a reversal of the military takeover is not to be expected, and the probability is that Washington will lose whatever little leverage it would have had in Naypyidaw. Washington is mulling over policy options.

    But there may be a Plan B. Indeed, former US ambassador to the United Nations Bill Richardson, who is no stranger to Myanmar, voiced the opinion last week that the time has come for the West to look beyond Suu Kyi for new faces among the opposition. One way is to mold a leadership that will be friendly to the US.

    There are signs that Western agencies are inciting the youth in Myanmar to stage protests, as happened in Hong Kong and Thailand. The military has clamped down on Facebook and the Internet. Shades of color revolution?


    This is where Russia’s role merits attention. The struggle for influence in Myanmar has a geopolitical dimension, for obvious reasons. Since 2015, after the signing of a military cooperation agreement, Russia’s presence has increased, and, importantly, it coincides with the lengthening shadows of Russia’s presence in the Indian Ocean.


    Russia has emerged as a major military partner for Myanmar. It operates a servicing center in that country. Russian Deputy Defense Minister Alexander Fomin told the media last month that Myanmar plays “a key role in maintaining peace and security in the region.”


    It is entirely conceivable that Russia, which has great expertise in countering color revolutions, shares intelligence with the Myanmar military. More than 600 military officers from Myanmar are studying in the Russian military academies. Myanmar’s military chief Min Aung Hlaing visited Russia six times in recent years, more than any other country.

    During the visit of Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu to Naypyidaw last month, the Russian media quoted Min Aung Hlaing as saying, “Just like a loyal friend, Russia has always supported Myanmar in difficult moments, especially in the last four years.” An agreement was signed for supply of a batch of Russian Pantsir-S1 missile and artillery air defense systems.

    Tass reported that the “command of Myanmar’s armed forces has shown interest in other advanced weapon systems of Russian manufacture.” Shoigu has reportedly expressed interest in establishing visits of Russian warships to Myanmar’s ports.

    All things taken into consideration, we may expect China and Russia to provide a firewall for Myanmar to ward off Western penetration, as is happening in Central Asia. (The UN Security Council statement avoids any reference to the military or a coup as such in Myanmar and lays emphasis on national reconciliation, with pointed reference to Suu Kyi’s release.) Russia shares China’s perception of the Quad as a destabilizing factor in regional security.

    Clearly, India needs to keep the big picture in view. It will not be to India’s advantage to create misperceptions that it is bandwagoning with some neocon Anglo-American project for regime change in Myanmar. In regard of Myanmar’s stability, India too is a stakeholder and would have a convergence of interests with Russia and China. "

    https://asiatimes.com/2021/02/myanma...ical-intrigue/
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    Reuters has also expresses their opinion:

    "Biden on Monday pledged to “stand up for democracy” and threatened to re-impose sanctions gradually rolled back by former President Barack Obama after Myanmar’s generals initiated democratic reforms and released many political prisoners a decade ago."

    As many realise ameristani standards of "democracy", usage of "sanctions" and definition of "humans rights" are somewhat ambiguously utilised.

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