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    TAT Proposes Vaccine Passports & No Quarantine So Tourists Can Return March or April

    According to the Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT), foreigners who have been vaccinated against COVID-19 should be allowed to visit Thailand without the need to quarantine.


    The tourism authority says so-called ‘vaccine passports’ would enable foreign tourists to stay in Thailand without needing to spend the first 14 days of their trip in an alternative state quarantine facility.


    The ‘vaccine passports’ are one of a number of ideas suggested by TAT governor Yuthasak Supasorn in a bid to revive Thailand’s decimate tourism industry, which faces the prospect of one million workers left unemployed as a result of the pandemic.


    Mr Supasorn said under the proposals, vaccinated tourists from the United States and Europe could start arriving in Thailand as early as March or April, with a focus on what would be the Easter holidays.


    Tourists from China, Japan and South Korea would arrive later once restrictions on all but necessary travel had been lifted by the governments in those countries.


    Mr Supasorn said that if the ‘vaccine passports’ get the approval he would expect 10 million tourists to visit the country in 2021.


    Mr Supasorn added that TAT has already entered discussions with Emirates Airlines and Qatar Airways about offering tourists all-inclusive packages. While details were not specified, it is presumed that the packages would enable vaccinated foreigners to travel to Thailand without restrictions or the need to enter quarantine.


    TAT will also ask the tourism authorities in other ASEAN countries to adopt the ‘vaccine passport’ model in order to stimulate tourism across the region.


    The news comes as two of Thailand’s largest hotel operators have urged the government to cancel the current COVID-19-quarantine rules for vaccinated visitors in a bid to revive the country’s tourism industry.


    TAT Proposes Vaccine Passports & No Quarantine So Tourists Can Return March or April | Chiang Mai One

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    Hope springs eternal, Kitty -
    Saving on all the expected for those reentering soon.

    Receive our two doses and follow up to what appears to be growing universal - vaccine certified passports and the relative freedom to travel without the predictable bureaucracy that is currently mandated.

    Cheers!
    Last edited by HuangLao; 28-01-2021 at 07:08 PM.

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    Flights from here to Thailand are mostly going the other way now, through the Middle East.

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    TAT has already entered discussions with Emirates Airlines and Qatar Airways about offering tourists all-inclusive packages. While details were not specified, it is presumed that the packages would enable vaccinated foreigners to travel to Thailand without restrictions or the need to enter quarantine.
    Naaaaaah. They still don't quite get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bored View Post
    IMO there seems to be either a lack of understanding or a blatant effort to ignore the science !
    On your part, yes there is.

    So a person who has had the vaccine shots will presumably not get deathly sick but can still carry and spread the virus.
    The science is not in yet. There is no science to understand or ignore. There are all sorts of bodies carrying out all sorts of studies to try and determine this.

    Or if they are in that percentage which the vaccine does not work then they are potentially super spreaders as any other !
    A simple antibody test will show if the vaccine worked or not.

    Please stop blathering about science if you don't understand it.

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    I can't see that the Thai authorities are in any position to develop any serious plans.

    And in terms of this.."TAT will also ask the tourism authorities in other ASEAN countries to adopt the ‘vaccine passport’ model in order to stimulate tourism across the region. I wouldn't expect the line up to extend around the corner.

    Some stats.



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    11,50511,505


    7777


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    10.7M10,700,000


    10.4M10,400,000


    154K154,000


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    +59,826
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    +87,090
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    +29,079
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    +1,245
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    Sorry. Can't seem to clean this up. Please delete all. thx ^

    What I had intended to say is that Thailand seems to have had 77 deaths total. With seventy million people. If the Thai authorities were to come clean and admit that they have no idea how many have died it would be a good start.

    With these numbers, which have to be totally inaccurate and meaningless, I can't see them developing any new tourism policy.

    It makes no sense. Anybody with an IQ of over 80 won't rest easy with this. Or at least they shouldn't.
    Last edited by russellsimpson; 31-01-2021 at 03:51 AM.

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    Qatar are trying to beat Emirates and Etihad to the punch and are talking to the Thai government about this app.

    However, it sounds like the Thais want to do all-inclusive deals, so I suspect it's just a repackaged version of the Phuket plan they had to create a "tourist ghetto".

    We'll just have to wait and see how the studies go as to whether this passport has any real use.

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    this will be quite the sh1tfight for a while as connected companies throughout the world try to get their mits on the money involved with running an international vaccinated database

    but the it would be combined with a 15 minute test at the airports of departure and arival

    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    Sorry. Can't seem to clean this up
    next time just copy and past into notepad before you copy and paste into the reply box

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    Sorry. Can't seem to clean this up. Please delete all. thx ^

    What I had intended to say is that Thailand seems to have had 77 deaths total. With seventy million people. If the Thai authorities were to come clean and admit that they have no idea how many have died it would be a good start.

    With these numbers, which have to be totally inaccurate and meaningless, I can't see them developing any new tourism policy.

    It makes no sense. Anybody with an IQ of over 80 won't rest easy with this. Or at least they shouldn't.


    ...or those who seemingly don't have a clue as to what's going on in the COVID era world or don't understand how numerous societies have handled/approached the mess and those "others" that have become quite the embarrassment in their overall schemes.

    You might be surprised to learn that the low numbers are real and more commonplace worldwide.
    Not fudged or manipulated, less conspiracies.
    The fact that many societies handled it all much better than others, surely gets by some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    this will be quite the sh1tfight for a while as connected companies throughout the world try to get their mits on the money involved with running an international vaccinated database
    I posted a while back: There is no "international vaccinated database".

    It is up to governments to respond to queries from the IATA system to their own national databases.

    So airport immigration type in country and passport number, it goes through IATA to the country of origin and they respond Y or N.

    Quite how this will work with expats I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    ...or those who seemingly don't have a clue as to what's going on in the COVID era world or don't understand how numerous societies have handled/approached the mess and those "others" that have become quite the embarrassment in their overall schemes.

    You might be surprised to learn that the low numbers are real and more commonplace worldwide.
    Not fudged or manipulated, less conspiracies.
    The fact that many societies handled it all much better than others, surely gets by some.
    I think you missed the point there, then again you missed it last time. It's Thailand. They will have dozens of iterations of a "new tourism policy" because they are tiny-brained morons and will respond to anything in the press with a Muay Thai standard knee-jerk.

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    By the way there is increasing anecdotal evidence that even the current levels of vaccination are bringing down new and serious cases significantly where it is being used. Which is nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    What I had intended to say is that Thailand seems to have had 77 deaths total. With seventy million people. If the Thai authorities were to come clean and admit that they have no idea how many have died it would be a good start.
    And you're basing that accusation on...what exactly?

    Because it looks like it's just 'feels'.

    The UK, for example, has just started quarantining new arrivals. Something Thailand began doing last March.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    And you're basing that accusation on...what exactly?

    Because it looks like it's just 'feels'.

    The UK, for example, has just started quarantining new arrivals. Something Thailand began doing last March.
    And I suspect it's hurt Thailand a lot more than it would have hurt the UK if they'd done it in the first place.

    Watching this at the moment.

    Tom Kerridge Pub Rescue

    It started filming well before the pandemic, but the effects of it as the series (three episodes) progresses is a good example of what must be happening all over the country.

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    Stiil, a daft stoner in the Canadian wilds who can barely turn on a computer feels qualified to make accusations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    The UK, for example, has just started quarantining new arrivals
    Where did you get that load of bollocks from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    Where did you get that load of bollocks from?
    It's all over the news, dillinger.

    You probably stopped following the news after page three was abandoned.

    What are the UK travel rules and will I have to quarantine in a hotel? - BBC News

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    ^ i was quarantined in the UK last July, you donut

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    Self quarantine?

    Obviously not what I'm posting about, you spotted dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Self quarantine?
    It wasnt quite like Mendip's imprisonment.

    We had to fill in passenger locator forms but then were free to jump on public tansport and 3 trains to get to the motel. No fucker had a mask back then. The long Summer nights sat in the beer garden of the pub next door were quite memorable too and no one did get in touch to see if we were self isolating.

    Yeah, quarantine was stretching it a bit

    Boris was right at first with herd immunity, with the mentality of the Brits. We have a big army that could be on the still
    busy streets and roads here but that aint gonna happen.

    Oh well, at least i should be vaccinated next Month

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    Yeah, quarantine was stretching it a bit
    Right, so as I originally posted, the UK is finally in the process of introducing quarantine for new arrivals, something Thailand introduced nine months ago.

    Also, Thailand is tracing people who have been in known COVID hotspots by tracking them down or asking them to report to a local health centre. This certainly doesn't guarantee isolation of people who have COVID, but it seems to be working a lot better than the UK's 'world beating test and trace system' as promised by BOJO.

    This has so far cost the UK over 12 billion pounds, and there still seems to be no target date for it to actually start working.

    seekingasylum's cry of 'Oh, but it's a military dictatorship!' as the sole reason why Thailand has done a far better job with COVID than the UK or the US is not remotely convincing.

    They've taken a better coordinated, more common sense approach to things and their top man is neither a screaming lunatic nor a disconnected toff and slob.

    Some westerners just cannot come to terms with that.

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    seekingasylum's cry of 'Oh, but it's a military dictatorship!' as the sole reason why Thailand has done a far better job with COVID than the UK or the US is not remotely convincing.

    They've taken a better coordinated, more common sense approach to things and their top man is neither a screaming lunatic nor a disconnected toff and slob.
    there is far more behind s.e.asias success in keeping death rates low than the military dictatorships, oppressive police forces and populations scared of the often severe penalties for breaking rules. they have a huge civil service, army and police force unhampered by such western frivolities as human rights, diversity, procedure or compliance, and whilst this certainly has its benefits in a pandemic, such an oppressive state system would not be tolerated in liberal western democracies....... even boris' tracing app was delayed and rendered just about impotent thanks to privacy concerns by libtard inclined activists and a hostile press.

    the virus spreads rapidly in confined poorly ventilated spaces, e.g. homes, shops and workplaces in cold climates. in s.e.asia life is lived outdoors and buildings are open and well ventilated.

    high vitamin d levels are thought to offer increased resistance to infection, the populations of countries in the high northern latitudes are vitamin d deficient during the winter months.

    s.e.asians live in much closer proximity to animals, microbes, dust etc. than westerners with their supposed obsession with cleanliness, wet wipes, disinfectants and sterile environments. living "closer to nature" has given s.e.asians a much stronger immune system than westerners, this is borne out by less severe symptoms and the much lower death rates of those actually infected with covid.

    and lastly, western populations have the highest levels of diabetes, obesity and heart disease in the world and this also contributes to the horrific death toll in the west.

    ..... and by the way, thailands top man is in fact a screaming lunatic. some of the shite he spouts would have him locked up in a civilised society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    This has so far cost the UK over 12 billion pounds
    Bet theyve saved a few bob in pensions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    Where did you get that load of bollocks from?
    "Travel Corridors".


    British people arriving home from 30 "high risk" countries will have to undergo a 10-day hotel quarantine at their own expense, as the United Kingdom tightens border controls to try to curb one of the world's worst Covid-19 outbreaks.

    Announcing the measure, Prime Minister Boris Johnson said that the tougher new rules would apply to travelers from "red list countries where we have particular concern about new variants."

    Non-UK residents will be refused entry, while British citizens and permanent residents will be picked up straight from the airport and transferred to government-provided accommodation where they will begin their mandatory stay.


    Meals and hotel expenses in what is one of the world's most expensive cities could end up costing travelers more than $2,000 for a 10-day quarantine.
    UK imposes hotel quarantine for travelers from Covid hotspots | CNN Travel

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