Thread: Taiwan reports large incursion by Chinese air force

TAIPEI (Reuters) - Eight Chinese bomber planes and four fighter jets entered the southwestern corner of Taiwan’s air defence identification zone on Saturday, and Taiwan’s air force deployed missiles to “monitor” the incursion, the island’s Defence Ministry said.


China, which claims Taiwan as its own territory, has conducted almost daily flights over the waters between the southern part of Taiwan and the Taiwan-controlled Pratas Islands in the South China Sea in recent months.


However they have generally consisted of just one or two reconnaissance aircraft.


The presence of so many Chinese combat aircraft on this mission - Taiwan said it was made up of eight nuclear-capable H-6K bombers and four J-16 fighter jets - is unusual.

A map provided by Taiwan’s Defence Ministry showed that the Chinese aircraft, which also included a Y-8 anti-submarine aircraft, flew over the same waters where the most recent Chinese missions have been taking place near the Pratas Islands, though still well away from mainland Taiwan.


Taiwan’s air force warned away the Chinese aircraft and deployed missiles to monitor them, the ministry added, using standard wording for how it responds to such activities.


“Airborne alert sorties had been tasked, radio warnings issued and air defence missile systems deployed to monitor the activity,” it said in a brief statement.


There was no immediate comment from China. In the past China has said it has been carrying out exercises to defend the country’s sovereignty and security.

Beijing has watched with growing concern increasing U.S. support for democratic Taiwan, especially during Donald Trump’s administration which left office on Wednesday.


Last year during visits by senior U.S. officials to Taipei Chinese aircraft briefly crossed the median line of the Taiwan Strait, which normally serves as an unofficial buffer.


The flight by the Chinese bombers and fighters on Saturday came just days after Joe Biden assumed the U.S. presidency.


Emily Horne, spokeswoman for the White House National Security Council, said the U.S. commitment to Taiwan was “rock-solid” after the island’s de facto ambassador in Washington, Hsiao Bi-khim, attended Biden’s swearing-in on Wednesday.


Taiwan reports large incursion by Chinese air force | Reuters

Originally Posted by misskit

Eight Chinese bomber planes and four fighter jets entered the southwestern corner of Taiwan’s air defence identification zone on Saturday

Ah, China, keeping peaceful relations with all . . . did China at the same time whine and whinge over a US ship sailing through the SCS?

Of course

Provocative fuckers.

How far can China go until Taiwan takes action? What a tricky situation.

Originally Posted by TTraveler

How far can China go until Taiwan takes action? What a tricky situation.

And how big will the response be when they do?

Taiwan is screwed.

Originally Posted by Paleo Robbie

Biden needs to

. . . not do what you think is right.

Anyway, I'm sure he has reacted, unlike your'I never started a war' ​orange buffoon.

The Chinese dictator is certainly flexing his muscles.

Lebensraum is the only word he needs to add to neatly reflect the actions of AH in 1938.
Hong Kong is Austria and Taiwan may mirror the Czechoslovakian experience.

Appeasement does not work with dictators, the free world needs to take a stand, the US alone cannot save Taiwan nor stop the brazen incursions being made by the Chinese.

Originally Posted by Iceman123

Appeasement does not work with dictators

True words

Taiwan’s air defence identification zone

Does this mean Taiwanese air space, as recognised by international law- or not? Rather big difference.

Originally Posted by sabang

Does this mean Taiwanese air space, as recognised by international law- or not? Rather big difference.

"The concept of an ADIZ is not defined in any international treaty and is not regulated by any international body."

Just the chinkies being c u n t s again.

Originally Posted by Iceman123

The Chinese dictator is certainly flexing his muscles.

Lebensraum is the only word he needs to add to neatly reflect the actions of AH in 1938.
Hong Kong is Austria and Taiwan may mirror the Czechoslovakian experience.

Appeasement does not work with dictators, the free world needs to take a stand, the US alone cannot save Taiwan nor stop the brazen incursions being made by the Chinese.

Get off the pipe. China is a nuclear great power. What's it supposed to do ? Give up Xingang and Tibet ? Give Hong Kong back to Britain ? And give Taiwan to the US navy ?

Why would any leader dismantle China ? Are you cracked out ?

Originally Posted by Backspin

Get off the pipe. China is a nuclear great power. What's it supposed to do ? Give up Xingang and Tibet ? Give Hong Kong back to Britain ? And give Taiwan to the US navy ?

Why would any leader dismantle China ? Are you cracked out ?

Here he is again - creating a scenario no-one talked about, embellishing it and ending in disaster - an utter, utter idiot.

Originally Posted by Backspin

China is a nuclear great power.

"Great"? Did you ejaculate on your keyboard as you wrote that?

Originally Posted by Backspin

Give up Xingang and Tibet ?

Indeed - precisely what Iceman suggested, just not in so many words . . . you're a cunning one, Skidmark.

Originally Posted by Backspin

Give Hong Kong back to Britain ?

Yet again, another Iceman-suggestion . . .

Originally Posted by Backspin

And give Taiwan to the US navy ?

YES YES YES! Iceman strikes again.


Finally a pic that perfectly sums up Skidmark

Originally Posted by panama hat

Here he is again - creating a scenario no-one talked about, embellishing it and ending in disaster - an utter, utter idiot.




"Great"? Did you ejaculate on your keyboard as you wrote that?



Indeed - precisely what Iceman suggested, just not in so many words . . . you're a cunning one, Skidmark.



Yet again, another Iceman-suggestion . . .



YES YES YES! Iceman strikes again.

Nobody said it explicitly. But all the usual commenters show up on each of these China threads wanting to take on China. The Hong Kong thread, Taiwan threads, Tibet and Xinjiang threads. Taken together, you are calling for the dismembering of China. And Iceman compared the Chinese government to Nazis, because the Chinese government doesn't support the dismembering of China.

The Taiwanese ADIZ was devised by the United states when it was at war with China. There's some unfinished business here clearly. And anyone who is flippant to China about this, is an idiot.

Taiwan has an ADIZ that covers most of Taiwan Strait, part of East China Sea and adjacent airspace, most ADIZ of Taiwan is built on its exclusive economic zone. Taiwan's ADIZ was designed and created by the United States Armed Forces (USAF) after World War II.

The Taiwan Strait Crises: 1954-55 and 1958

Tensions between the People's Republic of China (PRC) and the Republic of China (ROC) in the 1950s resulted in armed conflict over strategic islands in the Taiwan Strait. On two separate occasions during the 1950s, the PRC bombed islands controlled by the ROC. The United States responded by actively intervening on behalf of the ROC.

Originally Posted by Backspin

Nobody said it explicitly

You conjure up stories, carry them on and then blow them out . . . hardly a sign of a clever discussion.

Originally Posted by Backspin

And Iceman compared the Chinese government to Nazis, because the Chinese government doesn't support the dismembering of China.

Here's a good example of your idiocy.

Originally Posted by Backspin

China is a nuclear great power. What's it supposed to do ? Give up Xingang and Tibet ?

Why would any leader dismantle China ? Are you cracked out ?

So you are quite happy to consider Tibet as part of China?

Originally Posted by Backspin

Taken together, you are calling for the dismembering of China.

China did not, and does not own those places.

So it's no dismemberment.

TAIPEI (Reuters) - A U.S. aircraft carrier group led by the USS Theodore Roosevelt has entered the South China Sea to promote “freedom of the seas”, the U.S. military said on Sunday, at a time when tensions between China and Taiwan have raised concern in Washington.

U.S. Indo-Pacific Command said in a statement the strike group entered the South China Sea on Saturday, the same day Taiwan reported a large incursion of Chinese bombers and fighter jets into its air defence identification zone in the vicinity of the Pratas Islands.

The U.S. military said the carrier strike group was in the South China Sea, a large part of which is claimed by China, to conduct routine operations “to ensure freedom of the seas, build partnerships that foster maritime security”.

“After sailing through these waters throughout my 30-year career, it’s great to be in the South China Sea again, conducting routine operations, promoting freedom of the seas, and reassuring allies and partners,” Rear Adm. Doug Verissimo, commander of the strike group, was quoted as saying.

“With two-thirds of the world’s trade travelling through this very important region, it is vital that we maintain our presence and continue to promote the rules-based order which has allowed us all to prosper,” Verissimo said in the statement.

The announcement comes just days after Joe Biden was sworn in as U.S. president.

Biden’s nominee for secretary of state, Antony Blinken, told his Senate confirmation hearing on Tuesday there was “no doubt” China posed the most significant challenge to the United States of any nation.

China has repeatedly complained about U.S. Navy ships getting close to Chinese-occupied islands in the South China Sea, where Vietnam, Malaysia, the Philippines, Brunei and Taiwan all have competing claims.

The Theodore Roosevelt is being accompanied by the Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Bunker Hill, and the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers USS Russell and USS John Finn, the U.S. statement said.

U.S. carrier group enters South China Sea amid Taiwan tensions | Reuters

Bring it on, Mr Shithole!

So you are quite happy to consider Tibet as part of China?

In my case, Yes. Most Tibetans want to remain part of China. They look at their impoverished cousins over the border in Nepal, and why would they think otherwise?

Xinjiang too. Are you are aware only 34% 0f the population there is Uyghur? And many of them benefit from the usual policy of throwing money at the problem.

Choose your battles carefully. Losing propositions never win.

Originally Posted by sabang

Most Tibetans want to remain part of China

This you hear from your Tibetan mates down at the pub, along with your 'abo; and whatever other cause you're whining about friends

I guess they see the poverty and realise it's better to be castrated, made infertile, locked up, murdered, barred from religion etc... oh, and having your population made into a minority by state-resettlement of Han Chinese.

Makes sense.

Originally Posted by sabang

Xinjiang too. Are you are aware only 34% 0f the population there is Uyghur?

Are you aware that the Beijing government has had Han-Chinese resettlement pushes for decades to outnumber the Uighurs? See above . . . and so you don't think it's a 'pick on poor China' thread . . . see Indonesia with several places, mainly Papua

Originally Posted by sabang

And many of them benefit from the usual policy of throwing money at the problem.

Yea, that's just a step too far - show us howand how this would make up for taking over the region, displacing the indigenous population etc...

Actually, you have a history of being ok with indigenous peoples being subjugated, discriminated against, robbed of their lives . . . why would that be?

Originally Posted by sabang

In my case, Yes. Most Tibetans want to remain part of China. They look at their impoverished cousins over the border in Nepal, and why would they think otherwise?

Xinjiang too. Are you are aware only 34% 0f the population there is Uyghur? And many of them benefit from the usual policy of throwing money at the problem.

Choose your battles carefully. Losing propositions never win.

I don't know what Tibetans think because there is no opportunity for them to vote on the subject.

I have never been to Tibet so I don't profess any first hand knowledge. However, Tibet had a fair claim to be an independent country with a distinct language and culture until it was consumed by China under force of arms, at a time post-WWII when there was no great appetite for the other powers to interfere.

It is presented now by China as a fait accompli. Same way it is trying now to present its occupation of islands in the South China Sea.

Personally I do not accept that Tibet is inevitably a part of China. If I accept that then what next, Taiwan? Then the South China Sea. Then...?

I don't see it as a battle on my part. I do see it as an opinion.