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    Bali Tourists could be jailed for drinking alcohol

    The rest of SEA says "Go on, do it!".

    Tourists to Bali could face jail-time for drinking alcohol if a proposed law change goes ahead.

    Indonesia's House of Representatives continues to mull over a draft bill that would ban booze and threaten those found producing, distributing and storing it with jail sentences of two to 10 years.

    There would be less severe sentences for those caught consuming alcohol.

    The proposal is being mooted by 21 politicians from conservative Islamic parties, who are citing parts of the Koran indicating that Muslims should not drink alcohol.


    Officials from the Indonesian island of Bali, a hugely popular holiday spot, have made it clear they are not in support of the restrictions.
    Bali tourists could be jailed for drinking alcohol if proposed law change goes ahead | The Independent

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The proposal is being mooted by 21 politicians from conservative Islamic parties, who are citing parts of the Koran indicating that Muslims should not drink alcohol.
    . . . and why should Hindu-Bali give a shit . . .




    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The rest of SEA says "Go on, do it!".
    What various bombings couldn't do, this quite possibly would. It's not that alcohol NEEDS tp be part of a holiday but the fact that it is illegal just smacks of zealotry on a ME scale - not a good choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    It's not that alcohol NEEDS tp be part of a holiday
    Scuse me ?

    Even jews need bacon on rare occasions

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Scuse me ?

    Even jews need bacon on rare occasions


    "Dänen sind mit dem Vorurteil behaftet das sie nicht immer ganz die Wahrheit sagen."


    Reminds me of a business trip when I was working out of Amsterdam. I had just arrived at our distribution partner's office in Stockholm, direct from Kopenhagen.

    I was telling him about our Danish partner's marketing plans and the Swede just said:

    "Can't use that here, Danes are like the Italians of Scandinavia"




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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    "Dänen sind mit dem Vorurteil behaftet das sie nicht immer ganz die Wahrheit sagen.
    Read between the lines and practice 'inside the box' before you take on 'edel ariens'

    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    "Can't use that here, Danes are like the Italians of Scandinavia"
    Now, that's just rude

    Sweds are the Dilletant Nazis of Scandi

    Fact

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    I read the rest of the article, it doesn’t say much. But essentially every year or so conservative Islamic politicians make an announcement like this to garner support and votes from their mentally handicapped base.

    nothing to see here, it won’t happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Read between the lines and practice 'inside the box' before you take on 'edel ariens'
    Far too many visits to Denmark when I was stationed in Eckernförde to argue with that.





    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Now, that's just rude

    Sweds are the Dilletant Nazis of Scandi

    Fact
    Love the spats between Scandis . . . especially after they've had a few. Then the Finns come walking along with their funny language and want to be friends - only the Swedes like them as half of Finns are part Swede.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    I read the rest of the article, it doesn’t say much. But essentially every year or so conservative Islamic politicians make an announcement like this to garner support and votes from their mentally handicapped base.

    nothing to see here, it won’t happen.
    Im inclined to agree. Bali is predominantly Hindu, with quite a few Muslims in the population. They are mostly here to make a living from tourism. Due to the close proximity of Australia, we still get quality beef for our consumption.
    Thousands of locals have returned to their villages due to unemployment, quite a few have returned to Java, including Muslims and Catholics who came for relatively well paid work in hospitality and tourism. They already have fairly draconian laws for what westerners might feel are low level drug use and possession. An alcohol ban is might kill off any remaining tourism, and the jobs that go with it.
    Many Indonesians who live and work here don’t drink alcohol, whatever their background or religious persuasion.
    Most branded alcohol is expensive here, so drinking to excess, while it does happen, is fairly unusual.The locally produced Arak, is a bit like moonshine, so sensible folk usually avoid it, despite attempts to control and regulate production, the strength and potency can vary quite wildly. Alcohol sales are already restricted to licensed stores and availability to the millions of tourists who used to come here before lockdown was demand driven.
    Just like quality beef and sales of vegemite, it caters to the Australian pallete. There are plenty of Europeans and Russians who benefit from that influence too.
    I can’t see it happening in a supposedly secular governed country, especially to a province built so heavily on international tourism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Love the spats between Scandis . . . especially after they've had a few. Then the Finns come walking along with their funny language and want to be friends - only the Swedes like them as half of Finns are part Swede.
    Nah, we all like the Finns( or Finlændar, if they have a bit of Nazi swede blood).

    Do you know the game of 'Jorke'?

    You go with some finnish guys into a room,close the light, drink a case of vodka, a random guy then throws a knife and the first one who gets hit is 'Jorke'

    You can play it just two guys, but it takes more Vodka

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    You people are more than weird

    The worst I've experienced was at the aforementioned Swedish guy's place for a party . . . the alcohol was flowing and then they started pulling heads off live chickens . . . Swedes are weird

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    You people are more than weird

    The worst I've experienced was at the aforementioned Swedish guy's place for a party . . . the alcohol was flowing and then they started pulling heads off live chickens . . . Swedes are weird
    Is that all you did?

    https://teakdoor.com/world-news/2005...ml#post4188786 (Supermarket worker is jailed for having sex with chickens and his own dog)

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    What happens in Sweden, stays in Sweden . . . and any resemblance to me of a chicken is pure coincidence

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Sweds are the Dilletant Nazis of Scandi
    yes we never bought into it as much as our southern neighbors did

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    if they have a bit of Nazi swede blood
    Bali Tourists could be jailed for drinking alcohol-nsu_girl__1941-499x640-jpg

    Isn't she classy, the danish nazi whore

    Bali Tourists could be jailed for drinking alcohol-dnsaps_distriktskontor_pa_gammel_kongevej_i_kobenhavn-741x547-jpg

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    Scratch the surface . . . Peace, my northern friends.

    Pax Scandinavia


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    Bali, Sweden?

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    All of the above

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    . . . and why should Hindu-Bali give a shit . . .
    Possibly because it isn't an independent state....

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Possibly because it isn't an independent state....
    True, but it has a certain amount of autonomy. I believe it is similar to Sabah and Sarawak in that respect.


    I meant it more as an off-the-cuff remark, though. As the article explains, the 21 geniuses stipulate that Muslims cannot drink alcohol (though it's a bit contested re. quantity and hadiths etc..., plus that doesn't stop them fro drinking).

    Just like in Malaysia - you're not allowed to sell alcohol to Muslims . . . so don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    True, but it has a certain amount of autonomy. I believe it is similar to Sabah and Sarawak in that respect.


    I meant it more as an off-the-cuff remark, though. As the article explains, the 21 geniuses stipulate that Muslims cannot drink alcohol (though it's a bit contested re. quantity and hadiths etc..., plus that doesn't stop them fro drinking).

    Just like in Malaysia - you're not allowed to sell alcohol to Muslims . . . so don't.
    One thing I've learned about the Imams over the years.... they want every fucker to be as miserable as they are.

    Well obviously they are also concerned that people will be tempted away from listening to their bullshit as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Well obviously they are also concerned that people will be tempted away from listening to their bullshit as well.

    Temptation and fallibilty of man are themes of Islam

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    Themes of life more like. We are very fallible to temptation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Themes of life more like. We are very fallible to temptation.
    Indeed, but Christianity preaches that people should try live a moral life and resist temptation whereas Islam says humans cannot resist temptation so better to remove any chance.

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    I’m usually content to listen to temptation, but List ring to inner voices from the more pragmatic side of my mind works for me. Instead of ‘fuck it why not’, I often just reply to myself, ‘no thanks, enough is enough’.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Instead of ‘fuck it why not’, I often just reply to myself, ‘no thanks, enough is enough’.
    Have you always been like that or since a certain time/occurrence?

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