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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    You are suggesting the amerisatani regime funded CDC facts are fake.

    Care to post your factual evidence?



    One awaits the audits of all the world's labs with the ability to "create" such viruses:

    Asia and Africa, (an additional 3 in China, 3 in India, 2 in Japan and 1 in Russia, assumed to be non-Pentagon ):

    Attachment 55637

    The EU:

    Attachment 55639
    ameristan:

    Attachment 55641

    Possibly the full list:

    Biosafety Level - List of BSL-4 Facilities

    List of BSL-4 Facilities
    Name Location Level Established Discontinued Description
    Virology Laboratory of the Queensland Department of Health Australia, Queensland, Coopers Plains 4
    University of Queensland - Sir Albert Sakzewski Virus Research Centre (SASVRC) Royal Women's Hospital Brisbane P3 (BL3) Australia, Queensland, Herston 3+4
    Australian Animal Health Laboratory Australia, Victoria, Geelong 4
    National High Security Laboratory Australia, Victoria, North Melbourne 4 National High Security Laboratory Operates under the auspice of the Victoria Infectious Diseases Reference Laboratory.
    Republican Research and Practical Center for Epidemiology and Microbiology Belarus, Minsk 4 Department of Molecular Epidemiology & Innovational Biotechnologies
    National Microbiology Laboratory Canada, Manitoba, Winnipeg 4 Located at the Canadian Science Centre for Human and Animal Health, it is jointly operated by the Public Health Agency of Canada and the Canadian Food Inspection Agency.
    Wuhan Institute of Virology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences China, Hubei, Wuhan 3 - 4 2010 (P4) Wuhan Institute of Virology already hosts a BSL-3 laboratory. A distinct BSL-4 facility is currently being built based on P4 standards, the original technology for confinement developed by France. It will be the first at level 4 in China, under the direction of Shi Zhengli.
    Biological Defense Center Czech Republic, Pardubice, Těchonín 4 Located at the Centrum biologické ochrany (Biological Defense Center)
    Laboratoire P4 Jean Mérieux France, Rhône-Alpes, Lyon 4 1999-03-05 Jean Mérieux laboratory is a co-operation between the Pasteur Institute and INSERM. Note that in France, it is P4 for Pathogen or Protection level 4.
    Centre International de Recherches Médicales de Franceville Gabon 4 This facility is operated by a research organization supported by both Gabonese (mainly) and French governments, and is West Africa's only P4 lab (BSL-4).
    Robert Koch Institute Germany, Berlin 4 The facility was licenced for construction by City of Berlin on November 30, 2008.
    Bernhard Nocht Institute for Tropical Medicine Germany, Hamburg 4
    Friedrich Loeffler Institute on the Isle of Riems Germany, Isle of Riems (Greifswald) 4 2010 Deals especially with virology
    Philipps University of Marburg Germany, Marburg 4 2008 The facility is licenced to work with genetically modified organisms
    High Security Animal Disease Laboratory (HSADL) India, Bhopal 4 1998 This facility deals especially to zoonotic organisms and emerging infectious disease threats.
    Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology India, Hyderabad 4 2009 National Bio-Safety Level-4 Containment Facility for Human Infectious Diseases & Clinical Research Facility in Regenerative Medicine
    All India Institute of Medical Sciences India, New Delhi 1-4 1993 Conducts studies on major pathogenic organisms. Has contributed in discovering new strains & vaccines.
    Azienda Ospedaliera Ospedale Luigi Sacco Italy, Lombardy, Milan 4 A university hospital in Polo Universitario; it contains two special vehicles for transporting infectious persons.
    Istituto Nazionale Malattie Infettive Italy, Rome, Rome 4 This facility, (trans.) National Institute of Infectious Diseases, operates within the Lazzaro Spallanzani Hospital.
    National Institute for Infectious Diseases Japan, Kantō, Tokyo 3 (4) Located at National Institute for Infectious Diseases, Department of Virology I; this lab has the potential of operating as a BSL-4, however it is limited to perform work on only BSL-3 agents due to opposition from local residents and communities.
    Institute of Physical and Chemical Research Japan, Kantō, Tsukuba (4) This is a non-operating BSL-4 facility.
    Netherlands National Institute for Public Health and the Environment (RIVM) Netherlands, Bilthoven 3 - 4 2009
    Cantacuzino Microbiological Research Institute (INCDMI) Romania, Bucharest 4
    "Dr. Carol Davila" Central Military Hospital Romania, Bucharest 3 - 4
    State Research Center of Virology and Biotechnology VECTOR Russia, Novosibirsk Oblast, Koltsovo 1 - 4 It is one of two facilities in the world that officially hold smallpox. The other Russian BSL-4 facilities have been dismantled.
    National Institute for Communicable Diseases South Africa, Johannesburg 4 National Institute for Communicable Diseases of Special Pathogens Unit is one of only two BSL-4 facilities in Africa but the only suit laboratory on the continent.
    Swedish Institute for Communicable Disease Control Sweden, Solna 4 Swedish Institute for Communicable Disease Control is Scandinavia's P4 facility.
    Institute of Virology and Immunoprophylaxis (IVI) Switzerland, Mittelhäusern 4 2007-02-01 This facility only deals with animal diseases which do not transmit to humans, and is the only P4 facility where complete isolation suits are not used.
    High Containment Laboratory DDPS (SiLab) Switzerland, Spiez 4 Under construction, it will start operations in 2010. This laboratory will comply with BSL-4 standards.
    Kwen-yang Laboratory (昆陽實驗室) Center of Disease Control Taiwan 4 Part of the Department of Health, Taiwan.
    Preventive Medical Institute of ROC Ministry of National Defense Taiwan 4
    Health Protection Agency's Centre for Infections United Kingdom, Colindale 4 Located in the Viral Zoonosis unit.
    National Institute for Medical Research United Kingdom, London 4
    Institute for Animal Health United Kingdom, Pirbright 4
    Defence Science and Technology Laboratory United Kingdom, Porton Down 4
    Health Protection Agency United Kingdom, Porton Down 4 Special Pathogens Reference Unit.
    Health Protection Agency United Kingdom, Porton Down 4 Botulism.
    Centers for Disease Control and Prevention United States, Georgia, Atlanta 4 Currently operates in two buildings. One of two facilities in the world that officially hold smallpox.
    Georgia State University United States, Georgia, Atlanta 4 Is an older design "glovebox" facility.
    National Bio and Agro-Defense Facility (NBAF), Kansas State University United States, Kansas, Manhattan 4 Facility to be operated by the Department of Homeland Security, and replace the Plum Island Animal Disease Center. Planned to be operational by 2014.
    National Institutes of Health (NIH) United States, Maryland, Bethesda 4 Located on the NIH Campus, it currently only operates with BSL-3 agents.
    Integrated Research Facility United States, Maryland, Fort Detrick 4 Under construction. This facility will be operated by National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), it is planned to begin operating at 2009 at the earliest.
    National Biodefense Analysis and Countermeasures Center (NBACC) United States, Maryland, Fort Detrick 4 Under construction, it will be operated for the Department of Homeland Security.
    US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) United States, Maryland, Fort Detrick 4 Old building
    US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) United States, Maryland, Fort Detrick 4 New building, currently under design construction
    National Emerging Infectious Diseases Laboratory (NEIDL), Boston University United States, Massachusetts, Boston 4 Under construction by Boston University, building and staff training complete, waiting for regulatory approval.
    NIAID Rocky Mountain Laboratories United States, Montana, Hamilton 4 National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
    Kent State University, Kent Campus United States, Ohio, Kent 3-4 Operates as a clean lab at level 3 for training purposes. Scheduled for conversion to a hot level 4 lab in response to a bioterrorism event in the USA.
    Galveston National Laboratory, National Biocontainment Facility United States, Texas, Galveston 4 Opened in 2008, facility is operated by the University of Texas Medical Branch.
    Shope Laboratory United States, Texas, Galveston 4 Operated by the University of Texas Medical Branch (UTMB).
    Texas Biomedical Research Institute United States, Texas, San Antonio 3+4 The only privately owned BSL-4 lab in the US.
    Division of Consolidated Laboratory Services United States, Virginia, Richmond 4 This facility is part of the Department of General Services of the Commonwealth of Virginia. It is so called "surge" BSL-4 capacity.


    http://www.liquisearch.com/biosafety...l-4_facilities
    That is nothing but your usual bullshit, trying to justify your crap by bloviating

    Then you also have your minimalist bullshit:


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    You call these "facts'?

    Not only a fool but a massive hypocrite.
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    Started in China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    You call these "facts'?
    I call it a reply to a TD members request. Which I knew would generate non answers from our TD "triggered easily" but factually lacking posters. Which as illustrated has occurred.

    If you care to question the topic under discussion in this thread, lay your evidence before the TD "Judge and Jury"

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post


    General Secretary of the Communist Party of China

    "The two most recent General Secretaries, Hu Jintao and Xi Jinping, were first elevated to the position of First Secretary of the Secretariat in the same process used to determine the membership and roles of the Politburo Standing Committee.

    Under this informal process, the First Secretary would be chosen during deliberations by incumbent Politburo members and retired Politburo Standing Committee members in the lead up to a Party Congress.

    The First Secretary would later succeed the retiring General Secretary as part of a generational leadership transition at the subsequent party congress.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genera...Party_of_China


    Politburo Standing Committee of the Communist Party of China

    "
    According to the party's constitution, the party's Central Committee elects the Politburo Standing Committee.

    In practice, however, this is only a formality. The method by which membership is determined has evolved over time.

    During the Mao Zedong era, Mao himself selected and expelled members, while during the Deng Xiaoping era consultations among party elders on the Central Advisory Commission determined membership.

    Since the 1990s, Politburo membership has been determined through deliberations and straw polls by incumbent and retired members of both the Politburo and the Standing Committee.[4][5]"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politburo_Standing_Committee_of_the_Communist_Part y_of_China

    It appears to be similar to the UK method:

    The citizens select/vote for, their local political representative. The political party "selects/vote for" it's leader. The political party selects/votes for it's leader and other ministers. The party leader fires/accepts their resignation, any he what's rid of and appoints their replacements.

    ameristan also, (more knowledgeable ameristanis may expand if they wish ):

    The citizens select their local political representative. The political party selects it's leader. The leader selects his "ministers".

    Thailand, appears similar.

    I am assuming your own "home" country, NZ? or Germany?, have similar procedures.
    My home country has elections where the general public go and vote for the party of their choice.
    Despite what you've been led to believe I've been in China a long time and have seen not one shred of evidence of anyone 'voting'.
    I imagine from the wording there that a few local commie party members 'select' one from among themselves at a monthly local district party meeting, who represents that goup at the next level up where THEY select one from among themselves to represent them at the next level up and so on.
    The general population doesn't get a vote and the only people the chosen ones are interested in pleasing are the people above in 'the party'.
    Notice my use of the term 'party'.
    It's not much of an election when bejing chooses two people for the HKers to choose from is it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    'politicians' in China do not answer to their 'constituents'. (Regardless of what some Chinese might say).
    Seems to be a world wide phenomena.

    Do you have any examples where it is not the generally held opinion?

    Possibly some allegedly "contented citizens" counties, Russia and China as measured by deliverables may be exceptions.

    The Americas, Europe .... seem to pretty pissed of with their "elected" governments judging by press reports.



    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    That is nothing but your usual bullshit
    Is the list of L 4 labs fake or not indicative of the ability to produce viruses?

    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Then you also have your minimalist bullshit:
    See above.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    My home country has elections where the general public go and vote for the party of their choice.
    So, wondering why so many turmoils in the world? Perhaps that whatever one party do is always good and whatever the other party do is always bad? (Why not to have just one party only - only the good one?)

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    Facts? How about just a shred of reality instead of your fabricated crap

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Started in China.

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    In our democracy the parties are there to represent the different interests and aspirations of the people, at least in principle. Theoretically a bottom up representation. The CCP is a total opposite with the people supporting the interest of the party. A sort of Orwellian 1984 if you like or top down representation.
    How they have the cheek to call themselves "The peoples republic" when they are anything but.
    The principle of self determination is non existent in these totalitarian regimes. Taiwan is an obvious case in point.

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    I appreciate reading my not be your cup of tea, but a video illustrating the CCP hierarchy and it's progression available elected politicians was provided:

    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Listen to this CCP propagandist. He gets it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    I've been in China a long time and have seen not one shred of evidence of anyone 'voting'.
    I presume citizens voting in Hong Kong are not considered Chinese by you.

    I've never seen any voters in China either, but then I have only visited and always had busy schedules organised by our Chines staff. In addition politics were not discussed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    I presume citizens voting in Hong Kong are not considered Chinese by you.
    Obviously I'm talking about Da Lu you obtuse ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Da Lu
    Ah, mainland.

    I've never seen any Chinese mainland elections, either.
    Last edited by OhOh; 05-08-2020 at 06:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    If you haven't worked through the contradictions of that yet then I don't need to say anything further.

    China has rule of law. Politicians have constituants to answer to in China
    What ever you're on I'll take a kilo. It's gotta be good sh#t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    I've never seen any Chinese mainland elections, either.
    You absentee-voted in them, though

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Xi, like Putin, enjoys higher domestic popularity ratings than western political leaders. I wonder why?
    Do you realy wonder or are you just getting old and senile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    So, wondering why so many turmoils in the world?
    Maybe because it's getting a bit crowded on our planet, people want to have a piece of the pie, climate change, pollution?

    Thank God those Chinese communists and are locked up. Imagine the turmoil

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Originally Posted by sabang
    Xi, like Putin, enjoys higher domestic popularity ratings than western political leaders. I wonder why?


    Do you realy wonder or are you just getting old and senile?

    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Originally Posted by Klondyke
    So, wondering why so many turmoils in the world?


    Maybe because it's getting a bit crowded on our planet, people want to have a piece of the pie, climate change, pollution?
    Thank God those Chinese communists and are locked up. Imagine the turmoil
    Are you aspiring on the 'arry's position as MoD (Master of Demagogy)?

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