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    Taiwan is still a close and strategic ally to the US, and will likely remain so until or unless the US loses it's superpower status.

    China can declare that Taiwan is a "renegade" province and not a country and the US on will go along with that superficially, but will still treat the two as separate countries in all practical terms.

    My sincere hope is that China will make a few missteps down the road and the rest of the free world will finally grow a backbone. A near universal declaration that Taiwan is it's own sovereign country would be a nice outcome.

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    The mainland is buying off too many small countries at the moment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    The mainland is buying off too many small countries at the moment...
    The "small countries" have great potential. Once viable investments are deployed they will grow into substantial countries.

    China plans for millennia, the west, this millisecond's share price.

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    Firing Benny Tai fair, reasonable, say educators and alumni


    "HONG KONG - The University of Hong Kong's decision to dismiss Benny Tai Yiu-ting is a wise move, considering the profound adverse impact he has had on the city's young generation, according to education representatives and HKU alumni. Tai, a former associate law professor from the university, was fired after the university's governing body's approval of the decision on an 18:2 vote Tuesday.

    Mervyn Cheung Man-ping, chairman of the Hong Kong Education Policy Concern Organization, believes the HKU decision was based on Tai's involvement in court case, and such consideration is "objective and fair".

    An initiator of the illegal "Occupy Central" movement in 2014, Tai was sentenced to 16 months in jail last year for his role in the campaign and was later released on bail.


    The case has nothing to do with academic freedom, Cheung said, adding that no public organization accepts employees with criminal records.


    Wong Kam-leung, chairman of the Hong Kong Federation of Education Workers, also termed the HKU decision reasonable.


    Tai's political advocacy, such as "achieving justice by violating the law", has greatly influenced students and educators. Such notion also indirectly gave rise to the advocacy of Hong Kong independence, he said.


    He is hopeful that the firing of Tai could help the public realize the falsehood of his political advocacy.


    Lawrence Pang Wang-kee, an HKU alumni and former member of Central Policy Unit, an advisory body of Hong Kong government, said there are sufficient justifications in terms of moral, university management or legal aspects to dismiss Tai.

    Another university alumni, Choy So-yuk, a former lawmaker from the city, said Tai had been unqualified for the post by advocating breach of law, and, hence, the HKU, a prestigious university in the city, should not continue to tolerate this.

    In a statement, the Hong Kong Higher Education Convergence said Wednesday that the dismissal of Tai is in line with public interests and could help the HKU restore its reputation.

    It will also help universities in the city refocus on academic research and avoid being politicalized, according to the statement."


    Firing Benny Tai fair, reasonable, say educators and alumni - Chinadaily.com.cn
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    The case has nothing to do with academic freedom, Cheung said
    Because there is no such thing in chinkystan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    China plans for millennia, the west, this millisecond's share price.

    So did Nazi Germany, that turned out just fine too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    China plans for millennia, the west, this millisecond's share price.
    Again you're full of shit. China's communist party works according to 5-year plans economically and that only since 1953.

    In case you hadn't noticed it China isn't a sentient being and doesn't plan anything - it's a geographical location. Or are you trying to tell us that the country itself, rivers and mountains, valleys and cities, come together to plan the future?
    Communism was planned? By whom? HK, Macao, Taiwan, Uighurs, Tibet, Vietnam etc.. all planned thousands of years ago?

    Your usual apologist China-bot bullshit

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    And now, when China sending their health experts to help HK with the pandemic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    The "small countries" have great potential. Once viable resources are stripped bare by the chinkies they will be left empty shells.
    FTFY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    And now, when China sending their health experts to help HK with the pandemic...
    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Again you're full of shit. China's communist party works according to 5-year plans economically and that only since 1953.

    In case you hadn't noticed it China isn't a sentient being and doesn't plan anything - it's a geographical location. Or are you trying to tell us that the country itself, rivers and mountains, valleys and cities, come together to plan the future?
    Communism was planned? By whom? HK, Macao, Taiwan, Uighurs, Tibet, Vietnam etc.. all planned thousands of years ago?
    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Your usual apologist China-bot bullshit
    This about sums it up

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    And thus, gradually the Butthurt faded, and life in HK returned to normal. The mass exodus did not eventuate. The massive operations of the US investment banks continued to operate as normal, as did the generously sized but not used for spying US Consulate general. A few young kid dissidents who had "fled" HK were feted in the western Press for a while, before being dropped like a hot potato by the latte' set in favor of the nouveau cause celebre'.


    Same as it ever was. Meet the new Boss.

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    Gotta love the chinky sense of humour.

    "We would like these evil criminals extradited"

    "What are they charged with? Murder? Attempted Murder?"

    "Being troublemakers"

    "yeah, ok, fuck off".




    Police in Hong Kong are seeking the arrest of six pro-democracy activists living in exile in Western countries, including the UK, media reports say.
    The group reportedly includes former UK consulate worker Simon Cheng, well-known activist Nathan Law and US citizen Samuel Chu.
    They are wanted on suspicion of violating a new security law imposed in Hong Kong by Beijing, Chinese state TV reported, calling them "troublemakers".
    Hong Kong 'seeking arrest' of fleeing activists - BBC News

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    National security could be chosen, unfortunately those trials are usually secret, elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    those trials are usually secret, elsewhere.
    That is really not correct. Take the UK as an example. Leaders of extremist groups are seen as threats to national security in the broad sense, sufficient for the security services to become involved in gathering intelligence.

    However, if individuals are arrested those arrests will be carried out by the poluce. Charges will be brought under standard criminal law and they will be tried in open court, not in secret. As we know, many accused bombers and terrorists have been either acquitted at trial or on appeal. The UK has never seen conviction rates close to 99%, as can happen in China.

    This, possibly more than any other single thing, demonstrates the fundamental difference between China and most western countries.

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    Crass generalisation
    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    National security could be chosen, unfortunately those trials are usually secret, elsewhere.
    And facts
    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    As we know, many accused bombers and terrorists have been either acquitted at trial or on appeal. The UK has never seen conviction rates close to 99%, as can happen in China.

    This, possibly more than any other single thing, demonstrates the fundamental difference between China and most western countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    That is really not correct. Take the UK as an example. Leaders of extremist groups are seen as threats to national security in the broad sense, sufficient for the security services to become involved in gathering intelligence.

    However, if individuals are arrested those arrests will be carried out by the poluce. Charges will be brought under standard criminal law and they will be tried in open court, not in secret. As we know, many accused bombers and terrorists have been either acquitted at trial or on appeal. The UK has never seen conviction rates close to 99%, as can happen in China.

    This, possibly more than any other single thing, demonstrates the fundamental difference between China and most western countries.

    There's only two people on here that believe the chinkies have an independent judiciary.

    HooHoo because he's stupid.

    And klondyke because he's stupid as well.

    There may be others, if so they will probably be along to prove how stupid they are, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    And now, when China sending their health experts to help HK with the pandemic...

    Chinese "health experts"


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