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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Nice one Trudeau!

    Although I would imagine the vengeful chinkies will boycott Canadian Club or something.
    Trudeau has been sticking up to China and not letting them get their way. Mostly because Canada is pissed about this.

    China Indicts 2 Canadians on Spying Charges, Escalating Dispute - The New York Times
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    As far as a mass exodus from HK is concerned- are you serious? There will not be one. Every place has it's problems, but most HKers actually rather like it there. There might be a trickle of folk nearing retirement age, looking for somewhere cheaper.
    It will be interesting to see what happens with this new law. It has got to be a letdown to the protesters who were trying their best to keep things as they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    Trudeau has been sticking up to China and not letting them get their way. Mostly because Canada is pissed about this.

    China Indicts 2 Canadians on Spying Charges, Escalating Dispute - The New York Times
    China indicts 2 Canadians on spying charges.
    That's because the seppos got Canada to arrest the chinky Huawei crook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    The handful of expats I know still living in HK have been there 30 years now. Their reaction is frankly, a big so what.
    Don't be fucking silly, we aren't talking about expats. They will put up with shit and take the money because they know they can leave any time.

    As far as a mass exodus from HK is concerned- are you serious?
    That depends how invasive the chinkies "peacekeeping" is, doesn't it?

    If they go around spiriting away people based on anti-government tweets, then fucking right there will be an exodus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    Trudeau has been sticking up to China and not letting them get their way.
    No he hasn't. Up until this latest move, he's basically been spineless when it comes to dealing with China. Probably worried his supporters will think he's racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    No he hasn't. Up until this latest move, he's basically been spineless when it comes to dealing with China. Probably worried his supporters will think he's racist.
    What rubbish.

    He has consistently refused to interfere with his country's judicial process despite threats of chinky blackmail and cowardly calls for capitulation from some of his own country's politicians. They are the spineless ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    He has consistently refused to interfere with his country's judicial process despite threats of chinky blackmail and cowardly calls for capitulation from some of his own country's politicians. They are the spineless ones.
    Consistently? He's done it once. And it should be expected of a PM to not interfere with the justice system. I agree that the capitulators are spineless.

    Now, how many measures has he taken, up until this one, that actually have any teeth? Sanctions, diplomat expulsions, etc.?

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    That depends how invasive the chinkies "peacekeeping" is, doesn't it?

    If they go around spiriting away people based on anti-government tweets, then fucking right there will be an exodus.
    Which is precisely why they won't. But the verbal and physical assaults of Chinese people, the wanton vandalism of transport & educational infrastructure and merchants linked to the PRC (or who spoke out against the protests), the trampling & burning of Chinese flags- and flouting of US & UK flags, and the ridiculous calls for independence (which HK people absolutely do not want) did not exactly go down well in the Mainland- or with the majority in HK.

    The protesters got what they wanted- a repeal of the extradition bill. At that point, the reasonable protesters went home. Job done, and well done- they had got the PRC to bend to their wishes. Remaining however were a hard core, violent rump of the permanently disaffected- underpinned by Bigotry and Hatred. According to my resident sources, the majority in HK were disgusted by them. HK people value their safety- it is one of the safest places in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    wanton vandalism
    Hate when that happens. Bastard chinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Which is precisely why they won't. But the verbal and physical assaults of Chinese people, the wanton vandalism of transport & educational infrastructure and merchants linked to the PRC (or who spoke out against the protests), the trampling & burning of Chinese flags- and flouting of US & UK flags, and the ridiculous calls for independence (which HK people absolutely do not want) did not exactly go down well in the Mainland- or with the majority in HK.

    The protesters got what they wanted- a repeal of the extradition bill. At that point, the reasonable protesters went home. Job done, and well done- they had got the PRC to bend to their wishes. Remaining however were a hard core, violent rump of the permanently disaffected- underpinned by Bigotry and Hatred. According to my resident sources, the majority in HK were disgusted by them. HK people value their safety- it is one of the safest places in the world.
    Your sources are expats who don't want the boat rocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Your sources are expats who don't want the boat rocked.
    Again, sabang and I seem to have quite different friends in HK as the ones I know are very worried that their way of life is being fundamentally changed and that the all-knowing CCP jackboots will rule ruthlessly . . . and they also know that as foreigners they are a mere flea to be stomped on without problems

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    Sebang post his opinion, without none relevant attacks.

    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Remaining however were a hard core, violent rump of the permanently disaffected- underpinned by Bigotry and Hatred
    His most "violent" expression.

    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    the all-knowing CCP jackboots will rule ruthlessly
    Your post utilises more disrespect and evil implications of just one. Every country's government's, sovereign or vassal, could be labelled similarly. Including the UK and Canadian.

    Why not respond with an informative/amusing reply? You are able to, if you choose.

    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    very worried that their way of life is being fundamentally changed
    Currently it is the ameristani government which is creating the largest "change" in their "lifestyles" by unilaterally disposing of a cornerstone to HK's way of life. How is the new Chinese law removing your;

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    legal rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    they are a mere flea to be stomped on without problems
    As are all resident foreigners worldwide, irrespective of their current "agreement to remain". They do of course have the ability to return to their country of origin, or maybe if prudent, have a choice of multiple legal choices of "escape".

    Subject to financial and personal relationship issues.
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    Well, my sample group are all Permanent Residents. In other words, they have right of abode in HK. One (my ex-wife actually) is a Hongkie barrister, one HK born and mixed English/ Chinese, two my former partners in biz, and one outlier lives in Hampshire but still visits twice yearly with his Chinese wife, ex senior ICAC guy. They all whistled the same tune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Well, my sample group are all Permanent Residents. In other words, they have right of abode in HK. One (my ex-wife actually) is a Hongkie barrister, one HK born and mixed English/ Chinese, two my former partners in biz, and one outlier lives in Hampshire but still visits twice yearly with his Chinese wife, ex senior ICAC guy. They all whistled the same tune.
    And none of them want the boat rocked and will kiss the chinky arse as long as they can trouser their filthy lucre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
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    hopefully they will enhance the bloodstock, but doubt there will be a lot of breeding with the local dregs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I would love to see a chinky trying to enforce his "law" on my turf.

    odd that u can laugh at ur nievity. check wot the Russians did in sarisbury

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I wonder how many of the orange ones are vassals of another country who
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    or those who have "benefited" from cookie handouts from who

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    and the like?

    FIFYB.

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    Chinese are well trained and will jump over a stick or shit in the corner their told to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Chinese are well trained and will jump over a stick or shit in the corner their told to
    Not seen many Chinese "bending knees" recently, attacking their police, ripping down statues, looting shops, having virus parties .....

    It must be an Asian thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Not seen many Chinese "bending knees" recently, attacking their police, ripping down statues, looting shops, having virus parties .....

    It must be an Asian thing.
    That's because they can be shot for calling Xitler "Mr. Shithole".

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    That's because they can be shot for calling Xitler "Mr. Shithole".
    As you are well aware, the usual outcome is suicide in a prison cell or deadly mugging when nothing is stolen from the victim.
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    Twitter data-mining tool Dataminr fed police real-time info on Black Lives Matter protesters, despite promises not to spy


    "An analytics firm parsing Twitter data in real time for law enforcement and media has been caught funneling detailed info on anti-police-brutality marches to the very agencies users are protesting, despite promises not to.

    Dataminr, a CIA-funded artificial intelligence startup that mines Twitter’s real-time content stream for behavioral patterns and other analytics, has been caught feeding info on police brutality protesters from that “firehose” stream back to law enforcement. While the developers had promised they wouldn’t enable domestic surveillance after a series of scandals in 2016, Dataminr is once again doing just that, the Intercept revealed on Thursday, slurping up Twitter data from participants in the ongoing George Floyd demonstrations and sending it to the very authorities those people are protesting.

    Twitter has vocally supported Black activists and the #BlackLivesMatter movement. But that is not enough. In this fight for racial justice, @Twitter must act decisively to prevent the government from exploiting the platform to surveil and target the company’s users. pic.twitter.com/98wEwsKH4P
    — ACLU of Minnesota (@ACLUMN) July 9, 2020

    The app was forced to promise it would not use its privileged access to Twitter data to enable domestic surveillance in 2016 after the company was caught feeding law enforcement “fusion centers” – liaison offices between federal and local police – real-time information from Twitter’s firehose. This capability, which Dataminr bragged about in its marketing materials, flagrantly violated Twitter’s own policy against weaponizing user data for surveillance purposes. ...."


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    https://www.rt.com/usa/494326-dataminr-twitter-protesters-police/


    Some have rules and uphold them, and some have rules and ignore them.

    Who is the greatest threat, who has proven "previous" in such matters ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Twitter data-mining tool Dataminr fed police real-time info on Black Lives Matter protesters, despite promises not to spy
    How does that compare to Putin and the Chinkies watching absolutely everything their citizens do then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    How does that compare to Putin and the Chinkies watching absolutely everything their citizens do then?
    1. The ameristanis have laws passed by their legislators, that prohibit many such things. Which have now been publicly admitted that the named company and historically many other ameristani companies, have broken.

    2. The Russians and Chinese have laws passed by their legislators, that prohibit many such things. Which have not been publicly admitted that any of their companies have broken.

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    Lay out security law guidelines for Hong Kong teachers

    "Local political scientist Mervyn Cheung Man-ping said school adminstrators and the Education Bureau should cooperate in setting principles for teachers as to what they can't do in consideration of the National Security Law, and take the initiative to ensure the law is fully complied with."

    Lay out security law guidelines for Hong Kong teachers: Political scientist - Chinadaily.com.cn

    There is a video at the link in which an academic suggests that guidelines should be published to ensure the "correct" lessons should be to the HK students.

    What "guidelines" have our teachers here on TD, received, during their foreign assignments?

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