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    The average earnings in provincial Britain among the lower end is nowhere near the sums imagined by that piffling bit of so-called research.

    A sampling of the available data for the tradesman category in the district of Portsmouth indicates for those trained in the electrical, brick-laying and plumbing trades the hourly rate across a broad range of employers is within a band of £15 - £20 per hour. Taking a median line the average annual whack for a qualified experienced tradesmen pulling his weight is around £35,000.

    A qualified accountant in the provinces after getting his knees brown doesn't get out of bed for much under £50,000 per annum and one isn't including bonuses and partnership share dividends etc.

    Poor Tax, he hoovers data up from any old source and regurgitates it unthinkingly, unquestioningly as long as it props up his prejudices, bigotry and misconceptions.

    And of course we aren't even paddling in the pool of restricted earnings following inclement weather, seasonal downturns, recessional market collapse, injury, poor health and accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    the labour charge was £70 per hour, and thats northern england, not london, with little in the way of overheads. the car will be a genuine business expense.

    You silly sap, you were conned.

    According to Mybuilder the average hourly rate for a provincial electrician is £40.

    You silly old duffer. You need someone to take out Lasting Power of Attorney for you. You are clearly losing your marbles.

    £70 per hour for a baby northern tyke sparky!



    PS My nephew accountant was on an annual bunce of £45, 000 at 32 and that was way in the sticks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    PS My nephew accountant was on an annual bunce of £45, 000 at 32 and that was way in the sticks.
    shame, i feel for him.

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    The average earnings in provincial Britain among the lower end is nowhere near the sums imagined by that piffling bit of so-called research.
    but we are not talking about the lower end, (although in your alice in wonderland world it seems to be that anyone outside of the pen pushers, shoulder shruggers and back scratchers of the civil service belongs to the "lower end") we are talking about skilled and qualified tradespeople. the sort of lower end you frequently refer to ceased to exist in the uk about 20 years ago, and many of the survivors moved to thailand,
    and are now to be found with a weeks stubble, in cargo shorts and flip flops, sitting outside 7/11s in pattaya sucking on a krong thip and necking a can of ale before counting their change and waddling back to their retirement bedsit with its stained mattress, neon green nylon curtains and with half a dozen sullen cockroaches for company. i believe its called living the dream.



    A sampling of the available data for the tradesman category in the district of Portsmouth indicates for those trained in the electrical, brick-laying and plumbing trades the hourly rate across a broad range of employers is within a band of £15 - £20 per hour.
    they wouldnt even blow out a fart for less that £40 an hour.
    whatever your sources say, (2019 Trades Salary Survey: Electrician Salary increases by 5%) the facts are that it is absolutely impossible to find a plumber, electrician, plasterer or fitter in the uk in 2020 who will come to your house and work for between £15 and £20 an hour. unless of course they are travelling pikey cowboys who dont know a brick from a stick, but you will know more about them than i do.


    How do electricians charge for their time?

    When working in someone’s home most electricians will charge a day rate or a fixed rate depending on the job. Electricians who are employed and earn a salary are in the minority with the majority working on a self employed basis.

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    Oh dear Tax, you really are losing it. My reference to the range of £15- £20 per hour related to the employment rate for those tradesmen.

    As I said, for paying for services the appropriate hourly rate for an electrician in the provinces is £40.

    Are you attending occupational care sessions in your local rest home? It might be a good idea to keep active.

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    My reference to the range of £15- £20 per hour related to the employment rate for those tradesmen.
    and what exactly has that got to do with anything seeing as most are self employed and charge £60 for a call out and £60-£80 an hour labour.

    you live in thailand, home of the toothless jack of all trades who turns up to re wire the fusebox, fix the leak, tile the floor and service the aircon with a rusty penknife and an oily rag in his pocket and with a brain dead gofer in tow.

    if your chinese buyer actually decides to stump up and pay you for your condo in these dark days of recession and plague and you eventually make it back to the civilised world it would appear that you will need a long period of readjustment. maybe the civil service has some counselling services available for confused ex members trying to come to terms with life in the 21st century in the west.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    The pandemic provides an opportunity to reset the sector
    Covid-19 could be Thailand's great opportunity to slam the door on the money-grubbing grasping hordes of chinks and indians and attract a better class of sex tourist back to the country once again

    #MTGA

    Could this be the start of the second golden age of western sex tourism in Thailand?

    #WhiteMaleLivesMatter


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    Sadly thailand had already priced its self out of the bad boy market way before covid struck. Combine that with a Thai bhat thats over priced exchange wise.and The current xenophobic government making the visa scene hard a general lack of sabai . Then the best option might be to go elsewhere for ones jollys orvjuetvstay wt home and have a wank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Yes, only they tried to make it sound nicer by calling them "quality tourists" if I remember rightly.
    you know the ones with,FAKE PASSPORTS,FAKE CREDIT CARDS,COUNTERFEIT DOLLARS, these are welcome.

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    I would advise some members to sell their Pajero and buy the cheapest elite visa, but word on the street is the prices of second hand cars are tanking in Thailand.

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    ^ So now you figure Edmond's greens are worth prostrating yourself for, just as you used to do with luigi.

    Pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    ^ So now you figure Edmond's greens are worth prostrating yourself for, just as you used to do with luigi.

    Pathetic.
    Edmond is Luigi?



    Heeyyyyyyyy

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    I don't understand the maths behind the Rich Tourist idea.

    Thailand will have the same number of expensive rooms in the same number of expensive hotels as pre-Covid.

    Meanwhile, all the cheap hotels, bars and restaurants will be empty.

    Yet, magically, those same top end assets are going to compensate for all the empty cheap places. I don't think so.

    The (very few) rich travellers I have known already have places where they go to see other rich people. Samui is never going to be Mustique.

    Added to which, the rich seem to get bored very quickly. They mive around a lot. They aren't likely to sit by a pool in Phuket for 2 weeks at a stretch.

    I guess the government just has to sound like it has a plan.

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    Yeah, it doesn't involve actually doing anything different.

    There is certainly no maths or action involved.

    It's a pipe dream that they've been talking about for 30 years, at least.

    Repurposing empty restaurants, rooms etc. as examples of social distancing is an amusing touch.

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    Selected and restricted foreign visitors and residents has a rather lovely ring to it....


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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    and what exactly has that got to do with anything seeing as most are self employed and charge £60 for a call out and £60-£80 an hour labour.

    you live in thailand, home of the toothless jack of all trades who turns up to re wire the fusebox, fix the leak, tile the floor and service the aircon with a rusty penknife and an oily rag in his pocket and with a brain dead gofer in tow.

    if your chinese buyer actually decides to stump up and pay you for your condo in these dark days of recession and plague and you eventually make it back to the civilised world it would appear that you will need a long period of readjustment. maybe the civil service has some counselling services available for confused ex members trying to come to terms with life in the 21st century in the west.
    Out of the 34 million or so in the occupational workforce about 4.8 million are classed as self employed.

    That is why I gave the range of rates currently on offer to provincial tradesmen seeking employment as PAYE workers. I did so in order to provide some perspective and to refute your drivelling assertions.

    As I said, paying some lumpen oaf scarcely out of juvenile detention in some ghastly northern urban dystopia £70 per hour to run a cable to a junction box is clearly a sign of the foolishness of the old and infirm. The going rate is of course £40 per hour.

    You really are out of balance Tax. Time to get yourself back to that bathchair in sleepy Hua Hin where the pace of life is not so, well, demanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    identify and invite individuals in target demographics. Which will probably include previous visitors to luxury resorts in the islands of Phuket; Samui; Phangan; and Phi Phi he said.

    Phuket is “a prototype”
    Rich tourists may be required to pass Covid-19 screenings before traveling and upon arriving. Then choose a single resort island and remain for a minimum period of time.


    The “high-end visitors” (The Rich) will be able to travel freely while they’re on the island. Then be allowed to leave for home or other destinations in Thailand. Only once their minimum 14 day quarantine has passed. Thai Tourism plans to court the Rich, possibly during the winter months of November-February. A time when Rich European and American travelers seek out warmer climates, Mr Phiphat said.
    Well, I'm on record as one of them rich American previous visitors to the Thai high end resorts in the luxury locations. I'm waiting for my personal invite. Certain the invitation to spend larger sums of money while under a quasi-quarantine will be attractive to say the least.

    I'm quite interested in seeing what the incentive(s) they will be using to try to convince me to visit are. Chartered private jetliners?, free elite visa privileges? private tour guide?

    There will have to be a most well thought out and creatively written sales brochure and presentation required to convince their target audience.

    Good luck...

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