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    Teen Boy Stabs His Mother 12 Times Because He Did Not Like Her Rules

    Police in Southern Thailand have arrested a 16-year-old boy after he stabbed his mother 12 times, because he didn’t like her rules. The Teen boy has been charged with attempted murder and use of a deadly weapon.


    A Southern Thailand court in Hat Yai approved his arrest warrant on Sunday Thai Media reported.


    The attack took place on Saturday at 3am at a house in Songkhla’s Hat Yai district. The mother had recently returned from abroad and had been in the house for only 10 days.


    On Sunday the teen boy, accompanied by relatives, surrendered police in Hat Yai district. He was charged with attempted murder. The boy reportedly said he wanted to kill his mother in order to be free of her domination.


    She never forced him to follow her instructions, he said, but he felt uneasy and wanted to lead his own life. The teen boy had lived in the house with his grandmother while his mother was abroad. He also dropped out of school after the 8th grade.


    In a handwritten note given to police, the boy said he attacked his mother while she was asleep. “I covered her eyes and mouth, and stabbed her many times in the abdomen. I wanted to take her life. When she struggled and turned her back to me, I repeatedly stabbed her in the back,” he wrote.


    According to the note, his wounded mother asked him why he was doing this to her. She said she loved him and told him to escape quickly. “She made me understand how much she loved me. I ran out of the house.


    My hatred of her turned into a feeling of guilt. I want to be punished for what I have done,” he wrote. Pol Capt Saksit said Ms Khemisra was admitted to a hospital and declared out of danger.

    Teen Boy Stabs His Mother 12 Times Because He Didn't Like Her Rules

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    his wounded mother asked him why he was doing this to her. She said she loved him and told him to escape quickly.

    . . . words fail

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    The major difficulty is that in relation to young Thai it is so difficult distinguishing between the stupid and retarded and the merely psychopathic in reaching a diagnosis as to their mental health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    . . . words fail
    Super sad. Dealing with teenagers is a minefield. My boy just turned 18, started Uni last month and is on lockdown. He is a good boy, but we have locked horns a couple of times recently. Under my roof it is my rules, but i have to try to understand where he is coming from.

    Tough, tough, tough.

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    Muslim males dislike being told how to behave by women. They see them as second tier beings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    Muslim males dislike being told how to behave by women.
    let's just put aside the bigotry and ignorance for a moment....how do you know he's muslim?

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    let's just put aside the bigotry and ignorance for a moment.
    good point, so yes, lets put aside the bigotry and ignorance and concentrate on the facts about the misogyny rampant in islam.

    p.s. i have no idea whether the son in the attempted murder was muslim or buddhist, but e.n.'s comment was accurate.


    Muslim children are being spoon‑fed misogyny


    Ofsted has uncovered evidence of prejudiced teaching at Islamic schools but ministers continue to duck the problem

    Rachel Sylvester
    Tuesday November 28 2017, 12.01am, The Times

    ‘Thus man is definitely master of the woman”, states rule number one on the checklist for children in a book kept in the library at one Islamic school. It’s part of a shocking dossier of material uncovered by Ofsted inspectors on recent visits to faith-based institutions in both the private and state sector.



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    Photographs of texts in the school libraries as well as examples of pupils’ own work — which I have seen — raise serious questions about the government’s campaign to uphold so-called “British values” in the education system.

    Despite promising to defend equality, tolerance and mutual respect in schools as part of the drive against extremism, ministers appear to be turning a blind eye to taxpayers’ money being used to promote the idea that girls are inferior to boys.

    Inspectors are so concerned by what they have found in some Muslim schools that they have started compiling a detailed list of the worst examples of misogyny, homophobia and antisemitism.

    One school library had on its shelves a book called Women Who Deserve to Go to Hell that singles out for criticism those who show “ingratitude to husband” or “have tall ambitions” as well as “mischievous” females who “are a trial for men”. In its pages, pupils were instructed that: “In the beginning of the 20th century, a movement for the freedom of women was launched with the basic objective of driving women towards aberrant ways.”

    Children at another school were encouraged to study a text contrasting the “noble woman of the East” who protects her modesty by wearing a veil and the “internally torn woman of the West”, who “leaves her home to knock about aimlessly in cinemas and cafés, malls and bazaars, parks and theatres, exhibitions and circuses”. There were also school library books insisting that “the wife is not allowed to refuse sex to her husband” or “leave the house where she lives without his permission” and that “the man by way of correction can also beat her”.

    Perhaps not surprisingly, the social attitudes contained in the library books had filtered through to the children’s work. Ofsted inspectors were taken aback to see one student’s answers on a worksheet suggesting that women have a responsibility “only to bear children and bring them up as Muslims” while men should be “protectors of women”. In a box entitled “daily life and relationships” the pupil had written that men are “physically stronger” and women are “emotionally weaker”.

    The worksheet was covered in approving red ticks from the teacher. An essay argued that: “Men are stronger and can work full time since they don’t need to look after the children. Some people disagree that men and women are equal. Paternitity [sic] is an unconvinience [sic].” Men should also “earn more as they have families to support” and “are physically stronger so are better at being engineers and builders”, the student concluded. Yet ministers seem reluctant to act and are in fact encouraging the creation of more religious schools.

    I realise this is a controversial subject at a time when Islamophobia is on the rise, but it cannot be ignored because girls deserve to be treated as equals, whatever their faith and however they are educated in our liberal democracy. There are 177 Muslim schools in England, of which 148 are independent, and the rest state-funded (16 free schools, 10 voluntary aided and three academies). Of course, the vast majority of these institutions are moderate and many are also high-performing.

    But Ofsted is increasingly concerned about the cultural values being promoted in some of them. Of the 139 independent Islamic schools inspected since 2015 (when the inspectorate was given responsibility for private faith schools) 57 per cent have been rated less than good, compared to 11 per cent of all schools, and many of these were marked down because of a failure to uphold British values.

    Last month Ofsted won a landmark court ruling that religious schools could no longer segregate boys and girls. Inspectors are now planning to question Muslim girls who wear the hijab at primary school, because most Islamic teaching does not require girls to cover their heads until they reach puberty. An investigation is also being launched into a reported rise in the number of girls forbidden from taking swimming lessons in order to preserve their modesty.

    Meanwhile, without much help from the government, Ofsted is trying to deal with the growing problem of illegal unregistered schools, teaching potentially thousands of children in a totally unregulated setting. Inspectors have already issued warning notices to 45 of them and a further 100 are under active investigation.

    Earlier this year, Amanda Spielman, the chief inspector, argued that the terrorist attacks in Westminster, London Bridge and Manchester demonstrated the need to do more to promote fundamental British values in schools. “Just as important as our physical safety is making sure that young people have the knowledge and resilience they need to resist extremism,” she said.

    The education system is a window into a nation’s soul and yet Dame Louise Casey, whose report on integration was published a year ago, says the appalling material contained in the Ofsted dossier is not just a few “isolated” examples. “Some schools are teaching a segregated way of life and misogyny, and the government isn’t taking enough of a stand,” she told me yesterday. “The Department for Education turns a blind eye and hopes that Ofsted will deal with the problem. It’s all in the ‘too difficult’ box.” In her view the government should impose a moratorium on the creation of any more minority faith schools “until we have made sure that all faith schools in this country are teaching the equalities we expect”.

    This is not just about values but also national security. Since Dame Louise’s report was published last December there have been four Islamist-inspired terrorist attacks and numerous other plots foiled, but the government has still not implemented a single one of her recommendations. “I’m disappointed and genuinely concerned about the wellbeing of the country,” she said. “If we don’t make everybody feel they are part of the same country then I think worse things come out of that. We have got to fight these battles on all fronts and at the moment we are not.”

    Distracted by Brexit and divided between feuding ministers, the government has yet again taken its eye off the ball. Politics has become all about culture wars — between Leavers and Remainers, or feminists and transgender campaigners, centrist dads and Corbynistas — but the biggest battle of ideas, the one David Cameron called the “struggle of a generation”, is being dangerously ignored.

    Muslim children are being spoon‑fed misogyny | News | The Times

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    Sometimes the stupidity proudly flaunted on this forum just takes the breath away.

    However Tax’s inexorable slide into fruitcakery prompts more of a ‘So what?’ type reaction.

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    The seeming lack of a father probably had a lot to do with it also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    Muslim males dislike being told how to behave by women. They see them as second tier beings.
    Not their mothers they don't.

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    No.

    Mother’s phone call demands instant attention wherever the receiver.

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    Not at 16 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Not their mothers they don't.
    In this case I would wager that the mother was not seen as a matriarchal figure but rather the grandmother was. After all it sounds like she skipped out on bringing the kid up.

    Muslim men dont like being told what to do by non muslims, or other muslims they see as not following the teachings of Islam to their own standard, I used to have enough of them working for me to be sure of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    Muslim males dislike being told how to behave by women.
    so you're not going to provide evidence that the boy in the OP is muslim.....but you double down with...


    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    Muslim men dont like being told what to do by non muslims,

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    so you're not going to provide evidence that the boy in the OP is muslim..
    Sorry mate, the evidence was presented at the Southern district court, not on here.

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    so some kid stabs his mother in hat yai....and you turn the thread into yet another anti-muslim TD shitshow....even though there's absolutely no reason to believe the kid is muslim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    so some kid stabs his mother in hat yai....and you turn the thread into yet another anti-muslim shitshow....even though there's absolutely no reason to believe the kid is muslim.

    cvnt.
    If we are to make any sense of such brutality, then it is imperative we understand the cultural reasoning such communities and families may attach to them. After all, is the boy really to blame if he has been brainwashed by his religious elders in to believing women to be of a lower status and value to that of himself?

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    yawn.

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    The mother is Muslim, she was away on Islamic studies, after returning, the Thai son: "said he wanted to kill his mother in order to be free of her domination.

    he felt uneasy and wanted to lead his own life."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    The mother is Muslim, she was away on Islamic studies,
    What's your source for that? An article in the Thai press says she was away working in Qatar for 10 days.

    Also, in the Thai rpress, none of the photos of their home show anything that might indicate they are Muslims. The names of the mother and grandmother also have nothing obvious that would indicate they are Muslims.
    Last edited by Neverna; 16-06-2020 at 12:08 AM.
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    The mother is Muslim, she was away on Islamic studies,
    link please.


    i can only see that the mother had just returned from abroad, no mention of studying islam though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    What''s your source for that? One Thai article says she was away working in Kolkata for 10 days.

    Also, in the Thai rpress, none of the photos of their home show anything that might indicate they are Muslims. The names of the mother and grandmother also have nothing obvious that would indicate they are Muslims.
    Oh, no source.

    Was just making it up. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    Oh, no source.

    Was just making it up. :-)
    That's evidence enough for me.

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    I read somewhere that she was away studying Islam. Can't find it now but pretty sure it was a trusted source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armstrong View Post
    Not at 16 years old.
    The point was that it’s not behaviour ingrained by islam. There’s no dispute about junior having a bad day.

    Still, the islamic scholars here know better it seems.


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