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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Elections in China

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    are people put there by the party.
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    local People's Congresses are directly elected,

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    There is no opposition
    One presumes the "local people's congresses" are made up of the candidates who are voted for by Chinese citizens. Democratically elected.

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    ike their so-called "judicial" system.
    " Most trials are administered by a collegial bench made up of one to three judges and three to five assessors.

    Assessors, according to the State Constitution, are elected by local residents or people's congresses from among citizens over twenty-three years of age with political rights or are appointed by the court for their
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    democracy,
    "1. the belief in freedom and equality between people,

    2. a
    system of government based on this belief, in which power is either held by elected representatives or directly by the people themselves: "


    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...lish/democracy
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    a system of government based on this belief, in which power is either held by elected representatives or directly by the people themselves: "
    Which clearly isn't the case in Chinastan where Mr. Shithole runs the show.

    Next think you'll be telling us Vlad and Hun Sen are "elected by the people".


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The only people with power in Chinastan are people put there by the party.
    Why do you post this in Asia News ?

    It is not exacly news, is it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Why do you post this in Asia News ?

    It is not exacly news, is it ?
    Because HooHoo doesn't understand these simple truths. He believes all the silly shit he reads at chinky daily and whackjobbollocks.com.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    He believes all the silly shit he reads
    Is he gullible too ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    One presumes the "local people's congresses" are made up of the candidates who are voted for by Chinese citizens. Democratically elected.
    Good God . . . if you miss your motherland and its institutions so much . . . and if the party, the only party, decides who you can choose from and you call that 'democratically' elected then you are more dense than I thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    and if the party, the only party, decides who you can choose from and you call that 'democratically' elected then you are more dense than I thought
    Having just missed the conjunctions before, wondering in what country are such elections?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Having just missed the conjunctions before, wondering in what country are such elections?
    You've missed more than just "conjunctions"

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    if you miss your motherland and its institutions
    As if ones "motherland" is relevant to a thread about India and China.

    China-India Border Tensions-missing-point-928x540-jpg


    But keep sending your pathetic red stars.

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    ^ Home?

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    Can't understand why HooHoo hasn't moved to Chinastan already, he's such a suck up they'd welcome him with open arms.

    He wouldn't even need "retraining".

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    As if ones "motherland" is relevant to a thread about India and chins.
    It's your motherland so it is relevant

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Can't understand why HooHoo hasn't moved to Chinastan already, he's such a suck up they'd welcome him with open arms.
    You mean welcome him back. Oh, I think he'd love it for the first three days . . . then the reality of communist control would become more and more evident and he'd want to whine about it on Facebook or Twitter . . . realise it's banned in the Communist Workers Paradise and then whine on WeChat and get arrested.

    Either way, win-win

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    China & India pull troops away, set up ‘buffer zone’ in Himalayas weeks after bloody border clash – reports


    "China and India have moved their soldiers away from the site of a deadly June skirmish along the disputed border in the Himalayas, reports say. The news comes a day after senior officials agreed to expedite mutual disengagement.

    Chinese soldiers have moved their tents and other structures away from the site of the bloody melee in the Galwan River valley that took place last month, Indian media reported, citing official sources. Indian troops are said to have pulled back as well, and a buffer zone was set up between the soldiers from both sides.

    Indian military sources told AFP that that the disengagement of the Chinese troops began in accordance with the agreement reached during talks between high-ranking army officials from both countries.

    Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi discussed the situation along the border with Indian National Security Advisor Ajit Doval over the phone on Sunday. They agreed to ensure the mutual disengagement of troops along the de facto border as soon as possible.


    The neighbors have a longstanding border dispute in the Himalayas, and tensions occasionally lead to standoffs and skirmishes in the area, where both countries maintain a network of outposts.

    The heightened situation began escalating in May and culminated in a dramatic June 15 melee, during which 20 Indian soldiers were killed. Beijing acknowledged that there were casualties on both sides but stopped short of releasing any numbers."

    China & India pull troops away, set up ‘buffer zone’ in Himalayas weeks after bloody border clash – reports — RT World News

    India, China Agree To 'Complete Disengagement' From Deadly Border Flashpoint



    "Chinese troops were seen removing structures from a Himalayan valley where they fought a deadly battle with Indian soldiers last month, Indian army sources said Monday, after high-level talks between the nuclear-armed neighbours.

    Brutal hand-to-hand fighting in the Galwan Valley in Ladakh on June 15 left twenty Indian soldiers dead and sent tensions between the countries soaring. China has acknowledged it suffered casualties but has not given figures.
    The two sides agreed on Sunday to "completely disengage" from the border flashpoint and ensure "a phased and stepwise de-escalation in the India-China border areas," India's foreign ministry said Monday.

    In a CCTV readout of the meeting, China's representative Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Beijing would "effectively defend its territorial sovereignty, while maintaining peace in the border areas".

    Earlier, an Indian army source told AFP that China's People's Liberation Army soldiers were seen removing tents and structures in the Galwan Valley, and military vehicles were being moved back.
    "Disengagement with the PLA has started as per agreed terms in the Corps Commanders' meeting," the source said, adding the Indian army was verifying how far back Chinese forces had withdrawn.

    There was no comment on whether there was a similar withdrawal by Indian troops."

    India, China Agree To 'Complete Disengagement' From Deadly Border Flashpoint

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    Well that was a waste of time, but at least they didn't try lobbing their dodgy nukes at each other.

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    Tibetan Soldier in Indian Army Killed in Weekend Incident at Contested Border with China

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    The commander of an all-Tibetan company in India’s Special Frontier Force was killed and another soldier was wounded by a land mine while patrolling the border with China in Ladakh in disputed eastern Kashmir over the weekend, sources in the region told RFA Tuesday.


    The governments of India and China accused each other’s militaries Monday of making provocative maneuvers along the Line of Actual Control, their de-facto Himalayan border, but officials from neither country provided exact details of what had happened.


    Tsetan Wangchuk, the director of Sonam Ling settlement in India’s union territory of Ladakh told RFA’s Tibetan Service Tuesday that the company commander was killed by a land mine.


    “Nyima Tenzin from the Special Frontier Force has died from this confrontation and another Tibetan man from the same unit has sustained serious injuries and is currently undergoing treatment at Ladakh military hospital,” Tsetan Wangchuk, the director of Sonam Ling settlement in Leh Ladakh told RFA’s Tibetan Service.


    According to Tsetan Wangchuk, Nyima Tenzin, 59, commander of a company in SFF’s 7th battalion, died in a mine blast Aug. 29, while his unit patrolled through the eastern side of the Pangong lake area. It was not known if he crossed the nearby Line of Actual Control.


    The 7th battalion, also known as Establishment 22, is an Indian army unit made up entirely of Tibetans. India also refers to the unit as the “Vikas battalion.”


    Nyima Tenzin’s body was brought to Sonam Ling settlement in Ladakh for cremation. The 33-year veteran of the SFF is survived by his wife and three sons.


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    India on Monday accused China of breaking terms agreed to during previous military and diplomatic talks, without specifying what the People’s Liberation Army’s provocative moves on Aug. 29 were.


    "Indian troops pre-empted this PLA activity on the Southern Bank of Pangong Tso Lake [in eastern Ladakh], undertook measures to strengthen our positions and thwart Chinese intentions to unilaterally change facts on [the] ground,” New Delhi’s defense ministry said.


    The unspecified incident occurred some two months after a violent confrontation between the two countries’ militaries, in which 20 Indian soldiers died and an unknown number of Chinese lost their lives.


    A spokesperson for the Western Theatre Command of the PLA said the Indian soldiers had crossed the line in a “flagrant provocation.”


    Zhao Lijian, a spokesman for China’s foreign ministry told reporters Monday that Chinese troops “never cross the Line of Actual Control.”


    Neither China nor India reported details of their weekend confrontation, nor did they reveal any casualties.


    The Aug. 29 incident was the most recent in a long-running series of skirmishes in the contested region dating back to a 1962 war over the border, which India lost. Since then, both sides have placed troops in the region but agreed to terms aimed at keeping tensions from spiraling out of control, including a prohibition on soldiers carrying weapons.


    But as the two current leaders of India and China, Narendra Modi and Xi Jinping have both taken more aggressive stances on foreign policy, multiple clashes in the region have occurred during their concurrent reigns.

    Tibetan Soldier in Indian Army Killed in Weekend Incident at Contested Border with China

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    What Indian assets do the chinkies have their eyes on I wonder.

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    Here's the Indian version of what happened :


    China gets a taste of its own medicine as Indian Army’s SFF with Tibetan soldiers gives a bloody nose to PLA




    China gets a taste of its own medicine as Indian Army’s SFF with Tibetan soldiers gives a bloody nose to PLA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Here's the Indian version of what happened :


    China gets a taste of its own medicine as Indian Army’s SFF with Tibetan soldiers gives a bloody nose to PLA




    China gets a taste of its own medicine as Indian Army’s SFF with Tibetan soldiers gives a bloody nose to PLA
    Sounds more believable than the CCP version - the author of the piece writes very well, which is a bonus.


    Interesting:
    Special Frontier Force (SFF) is a covert Indian paramilitary unit that operates under the Directorate General of Security (DGS), a wing of India’s external intelligence agency R&AW. Earlier it used to exclusively recruit the Tibetans but the Gorkhas are also a part of it now.
    The DGS, in fact, predates it and was set up in 1962 after the India-China border war. The unit, also known as Establishment 22 and ‘Vikas’ is officered by the Indian army and recruits its personnel from among the Tibetan diaspora settled in India. Its personnel has participated in India’s various wars, from 1971 to the 1999 Kargil War.
    The nefarious country of China and its PLA troops on the intervening night of 28-29 August tried to pull another Galwan valley-esque coup on the southern bank of the Pangong Lake area in eastern Ladakh, however, a covert Indian unit this time around has given a bloody nose to the Chinese troops who have conceded a dominating position in the area and are now accusing Indian forces of entering in Chinese territory.India’s secretive Special Frontier Force (SFF) took a pre-emptive measure against the Chinese PLA at Eastern Ladakh where China was stepping up its salami-slicing tactics and military buildup.
    “Indian troops pre-empted this PLA activity on the southern bank of Pangong lake, and undertook measures to strengthen our positions and thwart Chinese intentions to unilaterally change facts on the ground,” a statement issued by the Indian Army stated.

    "nefarious" - what an excellent word

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    China vs India: Beijing brands India weaker nation as border clash sparks WW3 fears

    CHINA has branded India as "fanatical" as high level talks got underway over border tensions.

    India and China defence ministers held talks in Moscow on Friday, the highest level face-to-face political contact since tensions flared along the disputed mountain border in May. In the meeting, Chinese defence minister Wei Fenghe told his Indian counterpart Rajnath Singh that New Delhi bears full responsibility for the current border tensions.

    India's defence ministry tweeted that the meeting lasted for two hours and 20 minutes, without giving out further details.


    But the Chinese state backed Global Times, China’s Communist Party mouthpiece stressed that “China is an immovable neighbour and much stronger than India.”


    The editorial warned if New Delhi wanted to label Beijing its “long-term strategic rival”, then India would need to be “prepared to pay a huge cost”.


    They added: “In the meantime, it will never manage to get one more inch of land at China-India border areas.”

    Both sides deployed additional forces along the frontier after a clash in June, during which 20 Indian soldiers were killed in hand-to-hand fighting.


    Despite the brutality of the clash in June, both sides appeared to observe a protocol to avoid the use of firearms in the high altitude region.


    And while there have been no further clashes reported, the situation on the frontier remains tense.


    Military commanders and diplomats have been holding talks to end the standoff on the Line of Actual Control, or the de facto border, but there has been little progress.



    Last weekend, Indian officials said forces on the border mobilised to deter Chinese troops, whose movements suggested they aimed to occupy a hilltop that India considered to be within its territory.


    The Global Times continued on warning that India's actions had “seriously increased the strategic mistrust between China and India”.


    It claimed that India has “cancelled much cooperation with China since the Galwan Valley clash in June.”


    “Its nationalism is inflicting damage to itself.” they concluded.

    US President Donald Trump has offered to mediate between the two nuclear-armed nations in the past but China has said that there is no need for a third party to mediate and India has also appeared cool to the idea.


    When asked about the dispute at a news briefing in the White House, President Trump said: “We stand ready to help with respect to China and India. If we can do anything, we would love to get involved and help.”


    The Global Times concluded that China is “quite capable of handling challenges from India” stressing that the “Indian government has forgotten that its main task should be improving living standards.”


    But India army chief General Manoj Mukund Naravane said on Friday he was confident that the ongoing border stand-off with China in the western Himalayas could be resolved through talks.


    He said: "We are sure that the problem can be resolved fully through talks.


    “The situation along the LAC is slightly tense.”

    China-India latest: China plays down India as weaker body following latest border clash | World | News | Express.co.uk

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    Wish I could find it. Earlier read an article from an indian publication saying the indians gave the chinkies a black eye because they're fat, soft mummies boys who jerk off too much, have no experience and are too weak to handle the conditions.
    I paraphrase but that was the gist in no uncertain terms. A complete pisstake.
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    ^ I saw an article something like that also, but can’t find it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Wish I could find it. Earlier read an article from an indian publication saying the indians gave the chinkies a black eye because they're fat, soft mummies boys who jerk off too much, have no experience and are too weak to handle the conditions.
    I paraphrase but that was the gist in no uncertain terms. A complete pisstake.
    Probably a TD post by Harry

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    India accuses China of 'kidnapping' its citizens at border

    The Indian Army says it has asked its Chinese counterpart if five Indian civilians who went missing from an eastern border state days ago were in their custody, as tension simmered on the western frontier between the rivals.


    Relations between the nuclear-armed Asian giants have hit a multi-decade low since clashes at their western Himalayan border in June that killed 20 Indian soldiers. Both sides have since stepped up monitoring their largely unsettled 3,488km (2,167-mile) border.


    The five missing men are from the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh, a strategically important area also claimed by China, which calls it South Tibet, and the Indian Army said it told China's People's Liberation Army (PLA) about them on Saturday.


    "We spoke with them on the hotline and told them that it's suspected that some people have crossed across to your side and we will be grateful if you could hand them over back, as per what we do normally," Lieutenant Colonel Harsh Wardhan Pande, Indian defence ministry spokesman, told Reuters news agency.


    "There is no earmarked line going through the forest or the mountains, so they keep moving here and there. So they might have gone there, it's a very normal thing."

    He said the Indian side had yet to hear back from China. The PLA did not respond to requests for comment from various news organisations.

    Police in the northeastern Indian state told local media they were investigating claims made on Facebook by a purported relative of one of the men that the PLA had kidnapped them.


    The Arunachal Times reported on Saturday that the men were hunting when they were allegedly abducted. It was not immediately clear when they might have gone missing.

    MORE India accuses China of 'kidnapping' its citizens at border | China News | Al Jazeera

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