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    I can't vouch for those numbers but if correct, then the world was clearly asleep at the wheel as China went from 30% ownership to 90% control of rare earth.

    Quite aside from rare earth, the world also looked the other way while the CPC took control of myriad 3W resources and govs, as well as strategic investments in the west and infiltration of supposedly respected world organisations.

    So, will covid be a wakeup call, or will the devastation be just enough for the intl community to yawn and roll over?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    So, will covid be a wakeup call, or will the devastation be just enough for the intl community to yawn and roll over?
    Well, the international community isn't a bloc, rather it's made up of individual states with their own needs, agendas etc... The closest we come is the UN and that's biased, bought, aligned etc... azzzzzz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    They have used their high levels of US$ assets
    FIFY.

    US$ investments, real and paper.

    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    the UN and that's biased, bought, aligned etc...
    As I and others have been suggesting for years, "At dawn look to the east":

    Last edited by OhOh; 03-05-2020 at 01:54 PM.

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    Oh Noes!!!

    Is China trying to supplant the US as the World's biggest bully?


    China has heavily criticised New Zealand's support of Taiwan joining the World Health Organisation, saying the "erroneous remarks" could damage relations between the countries.
    Foreign Ministry spokesperson Zhao Lihan told a press conference on Monday China "deplores and opposes" New Zealand's position, and "no one should entertain any illusion when it comes to matters concerning China's core interests".
    "We hope that certain people in New Zealand will stop spreading rumours and creating trouble and work to enhance instead of undermining bilateral mutual trust and cooperation," Lihan said.

    New Zealand Foreign Minister Winston Peters on Thursday said Taiwan had been a "standout world success story on Covid-19", and that New Zealand had joined others in asking for the island nation to be added to World Health Organisation (WHO) as an observer.
    The building support for Taiwan entering the WHO has angered China, which ardently believes Taiwan lacks sovereignty and is part of China's territory.
    Beijing refuses diplomatic relations with countries that consider Taiwan a sovereign nation, part of a strategy called the "one-China policy".
    Lihan on Monday said the one-China policy "must be observed", and claimed Taiwan was using the outbreak to seek independence.

    "The one-China principle is the political foundation of China-New Zealand relations ... China urges New Zealand to strictly abide by the one-China principle and immediately stop its wrong actions on Taiwan-related issues to avoid damaging bilateral relations."
    Lihan appeared to contradict a claim from Peters that discussions with Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi had given him confidence there would be no pushback.

    "I wonder how he came to that assumption? I want to point out that China is committed to developing friendly cooperative relations with New Zealand based on mutual respect and equality. But we are firmly resolved to uphold our sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity."

    On Tuesday, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern told TVNZ New Zealand's support of Taiwan entering the WHO as an observer, "does not change New Zealand's position on a one-China policy".
    Finance Minister Grant Robertson said the diplomatic war of words would not damage bilateral relations.
    "There is a place for Taiwan as an observer, they have a lot to offer from their experience of Covid-19," he said.

    China '''deplores''' New Zealand'''s stance on Taiwan and WHO, says it could damage relations | Stuff.co.nz


    Will they stop exporting viruses to us?
    I think โมโห is gonna have a fit.
    Some people think it don't, but it be.

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    An economy with a population of 1.3billion. 1.300.000.000
    An economy with a population of 5 million. 5.000.000

    China has become the bigger bully - whereas the uS has targeted bullying, China's is ad hoc, whoever doesn't follow the line at any given time . . . and as the CCP controls the economy you don't have private enterprise bucking the system


    Our two apologists and deflectors of all things Russian and PRC . . . enter stage left!

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    China has suspended imports from four large red meat abattoirs in Australia, fuelling concern of a campaign by Beijing against Australian producers in response to Prime Minister Scott Morrison's push for an independent coronavirus inquiry.

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    Well, COVID is far more prevalent in abbatoirs......however the barley exports are being threatened too. So methinks they do protest too much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Well, COVID is far more prevalent in abbatoirs.
    Whereas Hendra_virus prefers stables.

    "Hendra virus fact sheet

    Hendra virus is a virus that mainly infects large fruit bats (flying foxes) which can be passed on to horses. The infection has occasionally been passed onto people who have been in close contact with an infected horse.

    Last updated: 08 April 2020

    What is Hendra virus?


    • Hendra virus is a virus that infects large fruit bats (flying foxes).
    • Occasionally the virus can spread from flying foxes to horses and horses can then pass the infection on to humans. A small number of people who had very close contact with infected horses have developed Hendra virus infection.


    • Hendra virus infection has been confirmed in two dogs on properties where horses had been infected with the Hendra virus. Neither dog was showing signs of illness.
    • There is no evidence of Hendra virus occurring naturally in any other species.
    • Hendra virus was discovered following an outbreak of illness in a large racing stable in the suburb of Hendra, Brisbane in 1994.


    "Hendra virus symptoms in people


    • Symptoms typically develop between 5 and 21 days after contact with an infectious horse.
    • Fever, cough, sore throat, headache and tiredness are common initial symptoms. Meningitis or encephalitis (inflammation of the brain) can develop, causing headache, high fever, and drowsiness, and sometimes convulsions and coma.
    • Hendra virus infection can be fatal. "


    Impacts


    "Hendra virus infection in horses and humans has a high mortality rate. Approximately 80% of horses and 70% of people infected with Hendra virus die."


    Hendra virus fact sheet - Fact sheetsHendra virus | Business Queensland

    Australian CSIRO no doubt researched this significant disease, at its BSL4 lab in Geelong Victoria at the time/recently and many peer reviewed papers published.

    Quote Originally Posted by Plan B View Post
    in response to Prime Minister Scott Morrison's push for an independent coronavirus inquiry.
    Is a concurrent "independent enquiry" into this required?

    "They Shoot Horses, Don't They?"

    Last edited by OhOh; 12-05-2020 at 10:06 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Whereas Hendra_virus prefers stables.

    "Hendra virus fact sheet
    Which makes the Communist Party's reaction even more absurd, thanks for pointing that out

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    Tell me again, why's it called 'hendra' virus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Tell me again, why's it called 'hendra' virus?
    Umm, it was named after the suburb where the virus was first found . . . but what is your point????? After all, the Wuhan virus was found . . . oh, I see.

    No, let's get all upset and shout racism and talk about how another virus was found in uyxgqnfwrkcf that is much worse and why doesn't the media report on that!!!!



    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Hendra virus
    Why are you a racist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Well, COVID is far more prevalent in abbatoirs.....
    Is it the case in Australia ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan B View Post
    China has suspended imports from four large red meat abattoirs in Australia, fuelling concern of a campaign by Beijing against Australian producers in response to Prime Minister Scott Morrison's push for an independent coronavirus inquiry.
    Sod the CPC bully boys and its unbending ideology, post CV will be a different world so prepare from now with new markets, and stop importing Chinese shit.

    Won't happen, and CPC will come out of this stronger than before which was fcuking impressive.

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    CPC?? WTF?

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    Ccp, cpc . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Why are you a racist?
    Mai kow jai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    CPC?? WTF?
    Communist Party of China

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Mai kow jai.
    Easy . . . follow the thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Sod the CPC bully boys and its unbending ideology, post CV will be a different world so prepare from now with new markets, and stop importing Chinese shit.
    ...at what point, I wonder, does national security outweigh booming exports to (let's face it) the enemy? The Chinese have so grossly and ineptly (in US fashion) overplayed their dominant international position in so many situations that there are probably few left who can't see their desire for hegemony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...at what point, I wonder, does national security outweigh booming exports to (let's face it) the enemy? The Chinese have so grossly and ineptly (in US fashion) overplayed their dominant international position in so many situations that there are probably few left who can't see their desire for hegemony.
    Europe/US leaders regard the west as too big to fail, which is probably common to many extinct civilisations.

    Prosperity has made western elites fat and complacent, and out of touch believing democracy/capitalism are formidable forces that can absorb the worst endeavours of any rogue ideology, so that China is not an existential threat, which it isn't, right now, but is scheming, planning and preparing for a gradual and consistent power shift since that's at the core of CPC ideology. Or, less kindly, they've taken turns screwing up so grandly that the best future they can see is a slow and steady long term decline as confidence sinks, and power shifts, so let's make the most of it while we can keep the people believing the sun shines out of our asses.

    If this current situation fails to alert our glorious leaders I can't see what will, though next question is what to do about it, which is way beyond any but the most seasoned keyboard warrior. So when it's over, whenever that is and whatever the final toll, maybe a few loud and firm token smacks on the wrist as we resume business as usual.

    imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Communist Party of China
    Nope. Try again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Nope. Try again.
    Stick around, you might hear of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Stick around, you might hear of it.
    Like I said, wrong. Try again.

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    Too funny, keep trying.

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