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    Oh, fooo


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post

    Impignoration.
    JeZUZ ...that's actually a word ! And nothing to do with pigs, either...


    Latin impignoratio: compare French impignoration.
    Noun

    impignoration (plural impignorations)

    1. (obsolete) The act of pawning or pledging; the state of being pawned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Xi Jinping urges China's army

    Why? They cannot help themselves without the army like elsewhere?

    Minneapolis Mayor Calls On National Guard Amid Riots: Report
    Dozens of buildings were looted and burned across Minneapolis Wednesday and Thursday over the death of George Floyd.

    Minneapolis Mayor Calls On National Guard Amid Riots: Report | Southwest Minneapolis, MN Patch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Minneapolis Mayor Calls On National Guard Amid Riots: Report
    Whataboutism, the Minneapolis riots is already being discussed in another thread.

    Hongkong didn't ask for the Chinese army to intervene, it is being pushed onto them.
    See the difference? No, well I didn't expect you to..
    Last edited by lom; 29-05-2020 at 03:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Strange Headline- one thing has nothing to do with the other.
    The implication is obvious to anyone but a retard or a snivelling chinky sycophant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    ^



    Mk's post refers to : yu-hug-me, which ends with :

    "Read the original article on Business Insider"

    A Reuters link would be useful if you have one. At 11am Thai time 29/05/2020, my search of Reuters produces this:

    " No search results match the term "Xi Jinping urges China's army to prepare for armed combat as Hong Kong "

    Search Results
    The Reuters version. You've gotta love the chinkies and their little euphemisms, unless of course HoHo you think there is "a profound impact on national security" in the the mainland drones scuttling around Chinastan trying to avoid unwanted government "reeducation".

    BEIJING (Reuters) - President Xi Jinping said on Tuesday China would step up its preparedness for armed combat and improve its ability to carry out military tasks as the coronavirus pandemic is having a profound impact on national security, state television reported.
    China's Xi urges preparedness for military combat amid coronavirus epidemic: state TV - Reuters

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    So the UK is considering offering free Hong Kongers with BNO passports a path to UK residence (which I'm sure they'd prefer to the revolting chinky lifestyle).

    Yet it seems even this has got the whinging chinkies in a snit.


    AFP, Beijing, MAY 29 2020, 16:49 ISTUPDATED: MAY 29 2020, 16:49 IST Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian (Reuters Photo) China on Friday threatened the UK with reprisals for saying it could offers Hong Kongers a pathway to British citizens...

    Read more at: Scientists raise concern over hydroxychloroquine study | Deccan Herald

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    China's Xi urges preparedness for military combat amid coronavirus epidemic: state TV - Reuters
    Your link has no reference to HK. It's a general call because of publicly known, "other" threats form elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    AFP, Beijing, MAY 29 2020, 16:49 ISTUPDATED: MAY 29 2020, 16:49 IST Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian (Reuters Photo) China on Friday threatened the UK with reprisals for saying it could offers Hong Kongers a pathway to British citizens...

    Read more at: Scientists raise concern over hydroxychloroquine study | Deccan Herald
    Have you a link to your AFP post? 96 results when searching their site. Last reference to Hong Kong was 6th May 2020, China 21st April 2020.

    Your Deccan link has nothing to do with China or Hong Kong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Your link has no reference to HK. It's a general call because of publicly known, "other" threats form elsewhere.
    Where else is it that "the coronavirus pandemic is having a profound impact on national security" then Hoohoo?

    Or are you just too stupid to understand these simple chinky euphemisms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Have you a link to your AFP post? 96 results when searching their site. Last reference to Hong Kong was 6th May 2020, China 21st April 2020.

    Your Deccan link has nothing to do with China or Hong Kong.
    Oh what's up Hoohoo, not another chinky tantrum you're trying to bury with irrelevance again?

    BEIJING, May 29 — China today threatened the UK with reprisals for saying it could offers Hong Kongers a pathway to British citizenship if Beijing goes ahead with a new national security law in the Chinese territory.
    Beijing “reserves the right to take corresponding countermeasures,” foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian told reporters at a press briefing, after the UK’s foreign secretary said Britain may relax residency rules for holders of “British National Overseas” passports in Hong Kong. — AFP


    If you want the full AFP story, you'll have to subscribe to their wire service like everyone else.

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    Before the 1997 Handover, there was an exodus of affluent and middle class Chinese from HK, to secure residencies elsewhere. This was when Vancouver was called Hongcouver. Most returned, after a few years spent securing their second residency in Canada, Oz, US, UK, wherever- and found that those that stayed where now considerably richer than them.

    Unlike mainlanders, hongkies have total freedom of movement. They are free to emigrate if they so wish. So you will openly see if there is any mass exodus. Don't hold your breath though.

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    This is from a friend of mine, who lived in Hong Kong for 35 years and is still closely connected through family and some big business. He has and still does work on the board of a few large Hong Kong businesses .

    This is roughly what he said last night.

    "The current law that all the hoo haa is about was a law under british rule. It was rescinded in 1997 at the request of the then Hong Kong Governor to the CCP. Alway remember that Hong Kong was never a Democracy under the British.

    Most of the money being given to the protesters to protest, originates from the USA.

    There has been bomb making material found in Hong Kong. They believe there is more. Nobody wants this.

    If the CCP want you, they will kidnap you anyway...with or without any law. (Booksellers...)

    Many of the big business people want the protests to stop, so they can get back to doing things they do best, making money.

    The CCP are very pissed off at Australia, not so much for the COVID comments from there PM, but because of the safe harbouring granted to one of their former spys/gooks, William Wang" (He was one of the CCP crooks that helped kidnap the book sellers.)"

    This wasn't a comment on The CCP or the Hong Kong government. Just the facts as he saw it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    "The current law that all the hoo haa is about was a law under british rule. It was rescinded in 1997 at the request of the then Hong Kong Governor to the CCP. Alway remember that Hong Kong was never a Democracy under the British."
    Hong Kong was under British Rule until 1997. China could pass all the fucking laws it wanted and it wouldn't have mattered a jot.

    The 1997 Basic Law signed by China and the UK agreed to effectively leave Hong Kong untouched until 2047, with changes to laws only being permitted if they were passed through the Hong Kong administration.

    Since the 19th century Hong Kong had its own administrative powers, to varying degrees, through the Legislative council.

    At no point prior to 1997 did China have a legal right to arrest people in HK and spirit them off to the mainland for a bit of "reeducation", and under The Basic Law it has no right either.

    There was an extradition treaty in place from 1889 which effectively mirrored similar treaties between other nation states.

    It explicitly denied the extradition of people for political "offences".

    Both the chinky stooge's attempt at an HK law - which started all the trouble - and the odious new chinky state version are intended to quell dissent, an obviously political "crime" in Chinastan.

    You might think it doesn't matter because the chinky goon squads can snatch people and shove them in the back of a van and drive them off to Chinastan with the aid of the stooge's puppet police force, but it does. It shines a spotlight on state kidnapping.

    To say "it was rescinded at the request of the Hong Kong Governor" is bollocks. It wouldn't have applied anyway because it ceased to be an inter-state Extradition Treaty when Hong Kong was returned to China.

    Chinastan was expected to adhere to The Basic Law until 2047. Clearly it wants to advance that schedule, probably because millions of Hong Kongers can see what a fucking dictatorial shithole Chinastan is, and the chinkies want to nip this desire for freedom in the bud, so it is effectively tearing up the agreement.

    What's to stop it doing it? The UK going to the ICJ?

    Firstly it would probably take until 2047 to get a decision out of them, and anyway you can add to that that the chinkies selectively choose which international bodies they like, depending on whether or not its decisions favour them. So they will do what they fucking like, just like they did with the Wuhan virus, because they don't give a shit about anyone else.

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    "President Donald Trump launched a blistering attack on Beijing Friday, naming misdeeds that range from espionage to the violation of Hong Kong's freedoms, and announced a slew of retaliatory measures that will plunge US-China relations deeper into crisis."

    Trump announces unprecedented action against China - CNNPolitics

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    and the chinkies want to nip this desire for freedom in the bud, so it is effectively tearing up the agreement.
    And that's the crux of it.

    As for Hongkies just accepting the new situation - I guess it depends on who you speak to. One of our neighbours is a Hongkie, cam to NZ 20 years ago or so, still goes back several times a year and he says that this is dire. The 50-year grace period is seen by many there as. aplanning stage to either leave or hope that China implodes or leaves HK alone as is/was.

    Many of his ex-colleagues want to leave now, it's no fun having an angry and aggressive 1.3billion bear at your door

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    "President Donald Trump launched a blistering attack on Beijing Friday, naming misdeeds that range from espionage to the violation of Hong Kong's freedoms, and announced a slew of retaliatory measures that will plunge US-China relations deeper into crisis."
    For once - good. The only thing Trump has done well in his years in office is try to stop China from running away with the world economy via outdated and inapplicable economic guidelines. How he's done it may not be good for millions of Americans but it sent a message

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post

    Since the 19th century Hong Kong had its own administrative powers, to varying degrees, through the Legislative council.

    At no point prior to 1997 did China have a legal right to arrest people in HK and spirit them off to the mainland for a bit of "reeducation", and under The Basic Law it has no right either.
    I think he was talking about the Law to congregate, not the one about extradition. As he said, Law or no Law, you are gone if you really piss off the CCP. Under the spotlight or not. How much international outrage was there on the news channels in NZ. Fucking none.

    I'll check with him next week. He's also no light weight either. He did say that he's more worried about Hong Kong now, that he has ever been.

    Also mentioned that the Watch shops (Rolex/Omega etc) have never done better business. All from young Hong Kongers. One of his mates owns a couple of these places.

    To say "it was rescinded at the request of the Hong Kong Governor" is bollocks. It wouldn't have applied anyway because it ceased to be an inter-state Extradition Treaty when Hong Kong was returned to China.
    Do you know this?He not a man known to bullshit, at all. I will ask him specifically again about this.He actually gave me the name of the Governor (Who he knew) who wanted to change the Law/document. I'll get specifics and let you know.You can then freely call it fucking bollocks or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    For once - good. The only thing Trump has done well in his years in office is try to stop China from running away with the world economy via outdated and inapplicable economic guidelines. How he's done it may not be good for millions of Americans but it sent a message
    I agree. There are quite a few Chinese in China and Hong Kong that agree with this as well. Probably sick of the power that the CCP hold. However, there is one thing nobody likes, that's Trumps unpredictability. If he was normal and tough on China, it would be much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    How much international outrage was there on the news channels in NZ
    It certainly was discussed and Winston Peters has already pissed off the CCP - not sure about 'outraged' though

    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    However, there is one thing nobody likes, that's Trumps unpredictability. If he was normal and tough on China, it would be much better.
    Absolutely right, it would be better for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    It certainly was discussed and Winston Peters has already pissed off the CCP - not sure about 'outraged' though

    Absolutely right, it would be better for everyone.
    he has indeed. That's a vote grab for him though.Winnie never says anything unless it's good for Winnie. I can't help but like the man, even though he is all about himself.Great company on the piss.

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    Thank you both for your replies.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    BEIJING, May 29 — China today threatened the UK with reprisals for saying it could offers Hong Kongers a pathway to British citizenship if Beijing goes ahead with a new national security law in the Chinese territory.
    Beijing “reserves the right to take corresponding countermeasures,” foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian told reporters at a press briefing, after the UK’s foreign secretary said Britain may relax residency rules for holders of “British National Overseas” passports in Hong Kong. — AFP
    Both of which from the Malay Mail, (a duplicate?), refer as their source the AFP article which you have failed to provide.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    If you want the full AFP story, you'll have to subscribe to their wire service like everyone else.
    Failed to provide the quoted AFP link, once again.

    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Just in case he can't read yours
    See above.

    Phart replies to add his own "reinforcement" to 'arrys, currently unproven, allegation. Both TD bastions of facts, now quoting a "fake" source?

    Unless of course both provide the link to the AFP published opinion piece.



    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    "President Donald Trump launched a blistering attack on Beijing Friday, naming misdeeds that range from espionage to the violation of Hong Kong's freedoms, and announced a slew of retaliatory measures that will plunge US-China relations deeper into crisis.
    The idiot also sent a message to his own citizens:

    China Moves to Take Over Direct Political Control of Hong Kong-violenttweet-jpg


    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    China from running away with the world economy via outdated and inapplicable economic guidelines
    The economic problems are solely the west's doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    There are quite a few Chinese in China and Hong Kong that agree with this as well
    Their are many more around the world who realise it is an failed outburst from a failing regime. The money printing is not "saving" anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    Great company on the piss
    As long as he leaves his nuclear button at home.
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Begun The Civil Wars Of 2020 Have

    MoA - Begun The Civil Wars Of 2020 Have

    Many examples in the opinion article of ameristani guilt.

    The last "tongue in cheek" sentence says it all:

    "Calls for President Xi of China to provide the American rebels with the means to defend themselves against the regime have not yet been answered"

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    U.S. businesses awake to 'sad day' in Hong Kong as Trump moves to squeeze economic ties
    World News

    May 30, 2020 / 8:03 AM / Updated an hour ago

    "Britain, meanwhile, is prepared to offer extended visa rights and a pathway to citizenship for almost 3 million Hong Kong residents in response to China’s push to impose national security legislation in the former British colony. "

    Trump cutting U.S. ties with World Health Organization over virus - Reuters

    and another

    Britain may offer "path to citizenship" for nearly 3 million in Hong Kong

    May 30, 2020 / 3:15 AM / Updated 8 hours ago

    "Foreign minister Dominic Raab said on Thursday that if Beijing went ahead, Britain would extend the rights of 350,000 ‘British National Overseas’ passport holders.

    On Friday the interior ministry said that this policy would apply to all BNOs currently in Hong Kong - a much larger group of around 2.9 million people according to British government figures.

    “If China imposes this law, we will explore options to allow British Nationals Overseas to apply for leave to stay in the UK, including a path to citizenship,” Home Secretary Priti Patel said in a statement."

    Britain may offer path to citizenship for nearly 3 million in Hong Kong - Reuters

    UK FM says 350,000 HK reidents (one definition), UK HS says all BNO's (definition number 2), while reuters says the figure at 2,900,000 (definition number 3).

    I suspect the final "official" figure, after the "exploration" is completed, priced and voted on in the HOC and HOL.

    Tto be announced after Buffoon Boris has agreed a trade agreement with Tweeting Twat and completed the Brexit negotiations ....

    Not that the agreement won't be cancelled/modified in the future.

    Why stop at the BNO's?

    What will the fate of the remaining, unwanted 4,000,000 HK citizens be?

    Do they not qualify for human rights protection by the former colonial regime or the leader of the worlds "greatest champion of human rights" - (if their worth it), ameristan?

    Not currently it seems.

    Cue leaking boats crossing the SCS to OZ/PH/TW and being "saved" by the new "MASSIVE" Chinese rescue ship.?
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