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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    ....Because you're too poorly educated to understand that this is what started them protesting in the first place.


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    I wonder what the predominant feeling is by Hong Kongers towards Carrie Lam at the moment ? Disgust ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    I wonder what the predominant feeling is by Hong Kongers towards Carrie Lam at the moment ? Disgust ?
    Probably started from there when she tried to pass the kidnapping law in the first place, and has worked its way down ever since.

    You can see why the chinkies want to stamp on this though, imagine how many people will loathe the fuckers by 2047.

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    Chinese Leaders Say Draconian Hong Kong Sedition Law Proposal Must Pass

    The ruling Chinese Communist Party on Monday said it would carry through its plan to impose a draconian sedition and subversion law on Hong Kong, bypassing the city's legislature, claiming that anti-government protesters had engaged in "terrorist activities" in recent months.


    China's National People's Congress (NPC) -- which usually passes any government proposal put before it -- will "vote" on the plan on Thursday.


    NPC chairman Li Zhanshu told delegates at the NPC annual session on Monday that he expects that "this important legislative task will be completed by delegates working together."


    Former Hong Kong chief executive Tung Chee-hwa, now a political adviser to the Chinese government, said the law would be "good medicine" aimed at ending months of social unrest in the city.


    Vice premier Han Zheng repeated Beijing's narrative that the protesters who have resisted widespread violence from riot police with barricades, bricks, Molotov cocktails and other makeshift weapons are "terrorists."


    "What country in the world would tolerate terrorism?" Han told the NPC. "The national security law for Hong Kong is aimed at a very small minority of people in Hong Kong who engage in violent actions in the name of Hong Kong independence."


    Han said only a "a very small number of people" will ultimately be punished, and that the law was intended to protect people's basic rights, economic interests and property.


    Meanwhile, customs authorities in Hong Kong are being accused of engaging in politicized enforcement of trading regulations after a second member of the pro-democracy group Demosisto was arrested for allegedly lying about the origin of face-masks being sold in Hong Kong.


    The end of Hong Kong's promised autonomy?


    The group's vice chairman Isaac Cheng and activist Tobias Leung have been arrested over a suspected violation of the Trade Descriptions Ordinance for selling masks labeled "not made in China."


    "Customs strongly condemns any false accusation maliciously alleging that its law enforcement action against the trader is 'political repression'," the city's customs service said in a statement.


    Beijing revealed plans on May 21 to send its feared state security agents into Hong Kong to pursue people suspected of "sedition," "subversion," or to be doing the work of 'foreign forces' during the city's months-long protest movement.


    In a move that many say signals the end of Hong Kong's promised autonomy and traditional freedoms of speech and association, state security police from mainland China will be allowed to set up shop in Hong Kong to fulfill their duties under the new law, according to a precis of the decision supplied by state-run Xinhua news agency.


    The plan has been widely condemned by foreign governments and rights groups as a breach of China's obligations under the 1984 Sino-British Joint Declaration, a U.N.-registered treaty governing the handover.


    Rights groups said the law will mean Beijing can ensure that only voices and activities that toe the party line will be allowed in Hong Kong, which was promised to continuation of its traditional freedoms of the person, publication and association under the handover agreement.


    The proposed legal move comes at a time when the U.S. is reviewing, under the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act, whether to continue to treat Hong Kong as a separate jurisdiction from China, given Beijing's growing insistence on wielding direct political power in the city.


    The Hong Kong Bar Association (HKBA) said the NPC has "no power" to impose a law on Hong Kong without its passage through the Legislative Council (LegCo), however.


    In a statement issued on Monday, the HKBA said the plan to insert the law into Annex III of the city's mini-constitution, the Basic Law, was improper, as only laws relating to defense and foreign affairs could be directly enacted in this way.


    U.S. shifts course


    It said Hong Kong has the right and duty to enact national security laws using its own legislature. Analysts have predicted that LegCo will likely see a strong influx of pro-democracy lawmakers in forthcoming general elections in September, and Beijing has said it is keen to avoid "obstruction" to the law in LegCo.


    The HKBA said there is no indication that the national security law will protect Hong Kong people's civil and political rights as laid down in the Basic Law, a concern that has repeatedly been highlighted by human rights groups.


    It added: "It is entirely unclear how the proposed agencies set up in [Hong Kong] will operate," citing an article in the Basic Law which bans Chinese government departments from operating in Hong Kong.


    U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has said the imposition of national security legislation would sound the "death knell" for the high degree of autonomy promised to Hong Kong.


    The White House on May 20 signaled an end to the U.S.' two-decades-old policy of engagement with China, vowing in a new strategy report to combat Beijing's attempts to impose a "new world order" based on its model of authoritarian government.


    Deepening engagement had done little to encourage fundamental economic and political change in China, the 20-page report said. It said the U.S. will now adopt a "competitive approach" to the country to resist growing Chinese influence and "compel Beijing to cease or reduce actions harmful to the United States' vital national interests," the report said.


    Beijing has said the Sino-British Declaration is no more than a "historical document," and warned other countries not to interfere in its internal affairs.


    In Washington, the U.S. Congressional-Executive Commission on China has called on the Trump administration to lead a global coalition to protect U.S. interests and support Hongkongers, using the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act of 2019.


    Former British colonial governor Chris Patten has called on G7 nations to stand up for Hong Kong’s freedom, describing President Xi Jinping's administration as an “enemy of open societies."


    Writing in the Financial Times, Patten warned that Xi is launching an all-out attack on liberal values in Hong Kong by preparing to send in the state security police.


    "With [their] well-earned reputation for coercion and torture, [they] won't be there to sell dim sum,” Patten wrote.

    Chinese Leaders Say Draconian Hong Kong Sedition Law Proposal Must Pass

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    Like I said, sending in the goons.

    The White House on May 20 signaled an end to the U.S.' two-decades-old policy of engagement with China, vowing in a new strategy report to combat Beijing's attempts to impose a "new world order" based on its model of authoritarian government.
    The US has precisely fuck all to do with Hong Kong.

    Now Taiwan is another matter altogether. If they wish to back Taiwan's claims to the Mainland, I'd be right behind them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The US has precisely fuck all to do with Hong Kong.

    Now Taiwan is another matter altogether. If they wish to back Taiwan's claims to the Mainland, I'd be right behind them.
    Agreed.

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    Hong Kong Chinese are volatile people; this isn't going to end well. Even if the laws get pushed through, the resentment will be immense and will pop out later in some odd form or other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Hong Kong Chinese are volatile people; this isn't going to end well. Even if the laws get pushed through, the resentment will be immense and will pop out later in some odd form or other.
    Don't underestimate the chinkies desire to quell dissent.

    Once they've set it up so they can just spirit people off to the mainland with no judicial process whatsoever, and the goon squads are in place, people will be genuinely afraid to go on the streets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Don't underestimate the chinkies desire to quell dissent.
    It's not nice how they handle the "peaceful" protesters... Why they do not learn e.g. from Paris?

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    Sure, let the 'peaceful protesters' assault people for the crime of being Chinese, or working for the wrong company, or wearing the wrong color T shirt. Let them vandalise MTR stations, block major transport tunnels and trash businesses, educational institutions etc. I mean, that's democracy innit?

    It seems we have totally lost the plot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    mean, that's democracy innit?
    Ti's so in some universes, 'arrys and Phat's for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I mean, that's democracy innit?
    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Ti's so in some universes, 'arrys and Phat's for example.
    Sure, if that's your yardstick . . . or we could use the same yardstick to murder protestors, spirit them away in the night, place a million people into concentration camps for religious 're-education', imprison critics of the state, brutally suppress religious activities etc etc etc . . .

    Seems Sabang and OhOh do, for example

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Sure, let the 'peaceful protesters' assault people for the crime of being Chinese, or working for the wrong company, or wearing the wrong color T shirt. Let them vandalise MTR stations, block major transport tunnels and trash businesses, educational institutions etc. I mean, that's democracy innit?

    It seems we have totally lost the plot.
    Perhaps if they hadn't started using violence against peaceful protests, they might not have turned violent.

    Just sayin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    or we could use the same yardstick to murder protestors, spirit them away in the night, place a million people into concentration camps for religious 're-education', imprison critics of the state, brutally suppress religious activities etc etc etc . . .


    1. murder protestors, - box ticked (Kent State Uni)
    2. spirit them away in the night, - box ticked (mysterious international flights to Caribbean "holiday" cells)
    3. place a million people into concentration camps for religious 're-education', - box ticked (South Africa, India, Gaza)
    4. imprison critics of the state, - box ticked (Clive Ponting, Assange, Chelsea Manning, Edward Snowden )

    List of whistleblowers - Wikipedia

    5. brutally suppress religious activities, - box ticked (South America, Palestine, Syria)
    6. Addicting conquered countries citizens to drugs (China)
    7. Growing addictive drugs for global sale to addict further countries citizens - box ticked (Tobacco, Heroin - Afghanistan - ongoing today)
    8. Utilising biochemical weapons - box ticked (American Indians, China, North Korea, Vietnam ....)
    9. Unnecessary experimenting/utilising of nuclear bombs - box ticked (Pacific Islands, Japan)
    10. Starving children - box ticked (Iraq)
    11. Promoting "Human Rights" by destroying countries, - box ticked (Libya, Ukraine)

    Nah our ameristani/Brit/Israli/German/French/Spanish/Japanese/ brothers .... have/would never do such things, all around the world.

    Some might notice and do a Nelson or write an article and be .... (see 1 to 11 above)
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    The commies are thugs and bullies.

    The sooner the Americans cripple their economy with tariffs, return manufacturing to the US and station three more aircraft carrier battle fleets in the western Pacific the better.

    China has long been overdue a kicking and its high time the world stuck it to them.

    The fuckers have raped Africa, infected the West, laid waste to Tibet, murdered and tortured thousands of their own people and are planning to take over SE Asia.

    Fuck 'em.

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    ^ You forgot to mention The Enormous Leap Backward, officially known then as The Great Leap Forward : between 18 and 45 million deaths, with people resorting to eating grass, leaves and other dead people. Not to mention swapping their children with other people so that they did not have to kill and eat their own children. They killed and ate their neighbours' children instead.

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    Great Chinese Famine - Wikipedia

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    Mr. Shithole isn't much of an improvement on the mass murderers that preceded him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    The sooner the Americans cripple their economy with tariffs, return manufacturing to the US and station three more aircraft carrier battle fleets in the western Pacific the better.
    Will it be in this century?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    ^ You forgot to mention The Enormous Leap Backward, officially known then as The Great Leap Forward : between 18 and 45 million deaths, with people resorting to eating grass, leaves and other dead people. Not to mention swapping their children with other people so that they did not have to kill and eat their own children. They killed and ate their neighbours' children instead.

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    Great Chinese Famine - Wikipedia
    Very nasty stuff . . .

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    Indeed, but just where did you think their peasants discovered a taste for wild animals, rodents and vermin if it was not through famine and starvation.

    The irony is delicious.......but a dish best left for their own seething masses.

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    China Moves to Take Over Direct Political Control of Hong Kong-shooting-fish-jpg


    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    The septics are thugs and bullies.

    The sooner the world's saviours supply reasonably priced necessities, return democracy to the US and target/sink three ameristani aircraft carrier battle fleets in the western Pacific the better.

    Ameristan and it's vassal have long been overdue a kicking and its high time the free world stuck it to them.

    The fuckers have raped Africa, Asia, Europe, South America, Antarctica .... and purposely infected the world, laid waste to everywhere except the free world, murdered and tortured thousands of foreigners, "because it was worth it", condemned to poverty their own people and are planning to, but as usual are unable to deliver, take over the free world.

    Fuck 'em.
    FIFY.

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    Christ, what a total mess you've made of that.

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    China Moves to Take Over Direct Political Control of Hong Kong-shooting-fish-jpg


    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    where did you think their peasants discovered a taste for wild animals, rodents and vermin


    "United Natural Foods, Inc. (NYSE: UNFI) is the largest publicly traded wholesale distributor delivering healthier food options to people throughout the United States and Canada."

    United Natural Foods, Inc. - Home


    Probably sourced, processed, packed in plastic bags (with government approved chemicals and tested on animals), in a secure 0.2* lab designed, built and paid for by you (not used for bioweapons creation, honest,) to ensure stabilised "Long Life Freshness" (as defined by the ameristani epicure citizens).

    Then shipped (courtesy of ameristani postal rates), delivered to your local WallyMart/reinforced trailer/mobile home door (hopefully 100% intact), from a faraway country across the oceans, by a brown or yella fellas, for 10c a day.

    MAGA
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    Are you a slope Oh-Oh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Are you a slope Oh-Oh?
    Geordie stock.

    Although my Grandmother alleged a forbearer had married a French Prince, Louis, Duke of Joyeuse (1694–1724).

    She did have many jewels in her case.

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