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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I suspect being beaten up, chucked in a van and shipped off to some "re-education camp" for criticising the odious Mr. Shithole is probably a change to their "way of life".
    They should learn from other countries how to handle protesters...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    As I recall, the protesters substantively got most of what they asked for
    You recall very fucking badly then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    They should learn from other countries how to handle protesters...
    Like Russia where protestors just die . . . Nice comparison



    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You recall very fucking badly then.
    Yea, they got some - one in particular with the extradition law - but their purpose was to ensure China kept the 2/1 system in place - which China isn't

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    They should learn from other countries how to handle protesters...

    The civilised Western democracies?
    Yes, quite the tolerant and civil history they have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    China kept the 2/1 system in place - which China isn't
    Which part of the China/UK agreement are you alleging China is breaking? Your opinion will always be welcome but an agreement clause reference, will suffice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Which part of the China/UK agreement are you alleging China is breaking? Your opinion will always be welcome but an agreement clause reference, will suffice.
    So you haven't even fucking read it.

    You dumbarse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    So you haven't even fucking read it.
    Of course he hasn't - next he'll post some completely unrelated crap about Oxford like in the other thread

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    In the end the CPC will get all or most of what they intend for HK, and the residues later on, through dogged persistence, by stealth, piecemeal, disregarding agreements, and making it near on impossible and impractical for their domestic and intl opponents to parry in so many areas simultaneously; like that game children play called boring adults silly until they get what they want, except on a much grander scale.

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    I saw some footage of the smallish protest yesterday, not very impressive. The joke was, a number of them were calling for HK independence!

    Those idiots have absolutely no clue- the very Last thing HK people want is independence from China! HK depends upon China for it's existence, without China there is no HK. It's a shame China can't pull a Vlad on them really- go ahead, call a Referendum. If a simple majority votes to secede, you've got your independence. With it obviously goes your free trade port status, your offshore financial centre status, and your privileged entry to China status. Oh, but I'm sure amerka will bail you out.

    Numbskulls. But of course, it will never happen- the motion would be blown out of the water.

    What HK people want, and benefit from, is the best of both worlds- privileged status while trading with the Mainland, while enjoying a good deal more rights and privileges (and money) than mainlanders. It's a fine line, but continued stupid action from those numpties will only draw HK closer to the Chinese fold and diminish their privileges= which many Chinese people already resent. Be careful what you ask for, eejuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    In the end the CPC will get all or most of what they intend for HK, and the residues later on, through dogged persistence, by stealth, piecemeal, disregarding agreements, and making it near on impossible and impractical for their domestic and intl opponents to parry in so many areas simultaneously; like that game children play called boring adults silly until they get what they want, except on a much grander scale.
    In the end, we might find that HK will not have changed at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    disregarding agreements
    Which agreements have China disregarded, in your opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Which agreements have China disregarded, in your opinion?
    The one they signed, that you haven't read, you dumbarse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    In the end, we might find that HK will not have changed at all.
    But it will have a few less citizens and a lot more goons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    one they signed
    Which section of which agreement, a source and reference will be sufficient.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Which section of which agreement, a source and reference will be sufficient.

    I'd suggest you go and read it before trying to comment on it.

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    It's like you are chatting to your mate about a game you've just watched and some fat bird comes over and says "What does offside mean".

    That's HooHoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    That's HooHoo.
    Not knowing the game he will tell you that off0side really means a foul, but only when it's against his team

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I'd suggest you go and read it before trying to comment on it.
    No need to. A video, in Chinese, with English subtitles has been published.

    Seven articles of proposed national security legislation - Chinadaily.com.cn

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    And how many times does it include some inane phrase like "the glorious motherland" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    No need to. A video, in Chinese, with English subtitles has been published.

    Seven articles of proposed national security legislation - Chinadaily.com.cn
    Oh for fucks sake hoho, how about a legitimate news source. The Chinadaily is part of the CCP propoganda apparatus.

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    There is plenty of decent commentary in the SCMP, HK still has a relatively free press.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    No need to. A video, in Chinese, with English subtitles has been published.

    Seven articles of proposed national security legislation - Chinadaily.com.cn
    That is not the agreement, that is the chinkies new law they are passing so they can send goon squads into HK to kidnap opposition activists, you fucking moron.

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    So it seems the chinky stooge - picked by the chinkies and not the people of Hong Kong - will be asked to railroad this through without the approval of parliament. Proof that the chinkies have no intention of honouring the Agreement.

    So can China just push this through?

    The Basic Law says Chinese laws can't be applied in Hong Kong unless they are listed in a section called Annex III - there are already a few listed there, mostly uncontroversial and around foreign policy.

    These laws can be introduced by decree - which means they bypass the city's parliament and Hong Kong's chief executive Carrie Lam has already said she will co-operate.

    Critics say this amounts to a breach of that "one country, two systems" principle, which is so important to Hong Kong.

    If there were sanctions associated with any national laws to be included in the annex, Professor Chan also says it should go through Hong Kong's parliament because the judicial systems are so different.


    "The values underlying the criminal justice system in two jurisdictions are so different that any criminal law should only be enacted by HK and not by the mainland," he says.


    What's more, the draft resolution in itself goes against Article 23, says Professor Chan - because that says Hong Kong must draft its own security law.


    So that suggests the Hong Kong government still needs to do that - which could make things complicated.
    Hong Kong security law: What is it and is it worrying? - BBC News

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    send goon squads into HK to kidnap opposition activists

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