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    Of course we won't know for sure until we see the harpy grizzling on the telly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    Great news! Maybe that's why Trump stayed cool all along. He poisoned him at the last meeting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Fat bastard is finally dead!
    How did you get to that conclusion? Because his private train is parked at his luxury holiday villa?

    When he's dead then the streets will be full of police, soldiers, and armored vehicles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    How did you get to that conclusion? Because his private train is parked at his luxury holiday villa?

    When he's dead then the streets will be full of police, soldiers, and armored vehicles.
    I saw it myself this morning on TV. The Munchkins are cheering like crazy. TRUST ME !


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    I reckon he's quarantined himself on the Train.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    I reckon he's quarantined himself on the Train.
    Charlie boy likes his Royal set as well.

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    "Qualia illuminates positive space time events" _

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    US monitoring intelligence that North Korean leader is in grave danger after surgery-advyojj_460s-jpg

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    Kim Jong-un ‘alive and well’ in resort, according to government official

    The mystery surrounding the health of Kim Jong-un took a new twist today after neighbouring South Korea insisted the missing despot is “alive and well”.
    President Moon Jae-in’s foreign policy adviser poured cold water on reports Mr Kim had died by claiming he is actually staying at his holiday palace on the North Korean coast, The US Sun reports.
    “Our government position is firm.....Kim Jong-un is alive and well, “ Chung-in Moon told Fox News.
    “He has been staying in the Wonsan area since April 13. No suspicious movements have so far been detected.”
    North Korean defectors also dismissed the spiralling rumours of Mr Kim’s death.

    North Korea's leader Kim Jong-un walking to a meeting with US President Donald Trump in the Demilitarised Zone in Panmunjom, Korea. Picture Brendan Smialowski / AFP.Source:AFP

    Joo Sung-ha, a defector turned journalist, said in a Facebook post reported by the New York Times it was reasonable to believe Mr Kim had health problems.
    However, he wrote he had zero trust in any of the reports as information about Mr Kim’s health is such a closely guarded secret.
    “The health of the Kim family is the secret among secrets,” he said.
    Thae Yong-ho, a former North Korean diplomat who also defected, said it was hard to believe any reliable information had been leaked by Mr Kim’s inner circle.
    He said that while he worked in the country no one was aware of Kim Jong-il’s death until 2011 when they were called to an auditorium and saw an announcer dressed in black.

    US President Donald Trump and North Korea's leader Kim Jong-un stand on North Korean soil while walking to South Korea in the Demilitarised Zone in Panmunjom, Korea. Picture: Brendan Smialowski / AFP.Source:AFP

    Earlier, an expert warned that Mr Kim’s death could force the US and South Korea into military action which would “make Afghanistan and Iraq pale in comparison”.
    They fear the power void left behind by the despot’s demise may erupt into an ugly civil war involving rival military units within the mighty North Korean army
    Regional observers say any chaos sparked in the wake of Mr Kim’s death could then lead to an intervention by the South and it’s powerful ally America.
    On Tuesday it was claimed it was not known if Mr Kim was “dead or alive” following reports he had undergone secret heart surgery.
    One senior White House reporter said she had been told Trump officials were already looking into who would be in line for succession.
    However, both South Korea and China later said they believed reports he was in “grave danger” were unfounded.
    And a top Pentagon official today said Kim was likely to be still in “full control” of his military.
    Vice Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General John Hyten said: “In the intel, I don’t have anything to confirm or deny anything along those lines, so I assume that Kim Jong-un is still in full control of the Korean nuclear force and the Korean military forces.”
    Now David Maxwell, a retired special forces colonel and senior fellow at the Foundation for Defence of Democracies think tank, has explained how things could go very wrong, very quickly.
    He told the Military Times: “Units of the North Korean People’s Army are going to compete for resources and survival.
    “This will lead to internal conflict among units and could escalate to widespread civil war.”
    And he fears the bloodshed in the nuclear state could lead to South Korea being forced into action dragging the US into the fight.
    He said: “The ROK/US alliance is going to have to be prepared to secure and render safe the entire WMD program, nuclear, chemical, biological weapons and stockpiles, manufacturing facilities, and human infrastructure.
    “This is a contingency operation that will make Afghanistan and Iraq pale in comparison.”
    Warning: Be cautious if you are a fragile pink

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    His sister is most probably going to meet a terrible ending after her praising by the world media

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    His sister is most probably going to meet a terrible ending after her praising by the world media
    Indeed. That society is male dominated, and they will never allow a female to take power.

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    Will a Woman Run North Korea? Kim’s Sister Outshines Male Rivals
    By Jon Herskovitz and Kanga Kong
    April 26, 2020, 3:00 PM GMT+7 Updated on April 27, 2020, 5:30 AM GMT+7
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    • Kim Jong Un’s sister has international clout, party experience
    • Uncertain if she can win acceptance from old, male generals


    North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un Mystery Grows
    Of all the family members who could eventually take the reins from North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, his sister seems like the obvious choice.


    Kim Yo Jong, in her early 30s, has been by her brother’s side at summits with U.S. President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping, sat behind Vice President Mike Pence while representing North Korea at the 2018 Winter Olympics and became the first immediate member of the ruling family to visit Seoul, where she delivered a personal message from her brother inviting South Korean President Moon Jae-in to a summit.



    Kim Yo Jong Photographer: Jorge Silva/Pool via Bloomberg

    The biggest potential hang-up: She’s a woman in a society rigidly controlled by men. While many North Korea watchers say bloodline is more important than gender, others are skeptical.

    “Yo Jong’s role will likely be limited to a regent at most” due to North Korea’s feudal patriarchy, said Yoo Ho-yeol, who teaches North Korean studies at Korea University and formerly advised South Korea’s unification ministry and defense ministry. “Not only the male-dominant leadership, but also ordinary people there would resist a female leader.”

    The question of whether Kim Yo Jong will become North Korea’s first woman leader has suddenly become front and center as questions about her brother’s health intensify. Kim Jong Un hasn’t appeared in state media in two weeks, prompting a flurry of reports suggesting he could be incapacitated.

    The Kim family dynasty has ruled North Korea for three generations since its founding after World War II, when the Soviet Union and the U.S. divided up control of the Korean Peninsula. Over that time, it has built up one of the world’s most vigorous personality cults -- making the preeminent claim to legitimacy in the dictatorship a bloodline said to stem from the sacred Mount Paektu near the Chinese border.

    When Kim Jong Un took power after his father’s death in 2011, the big question was whether a leader in his 20s could rule a country that revered seniority. He soon exerted authority over geriatric generals and eliminated potential rivals: He executed his uncle and one-time deputy, Jang Song Thaek, and was suspected to have ordered the assassination of his exiled older half-brother, Kim Jong Nam, in Malaysia.

    In many ways, Kim Yo Jong -- who has spent nearly a decade enmeshed in the state apparatus -- has been better groomed to take over the top leadership role. She could also similarly surprise anyone who doubts her ability to run the country, according to Soo Kim, a Rand Corp. policy analyst who specializes in Korean Peninsula issues.

    ‘Begins and Ends’


    “I don’t think she needs to worry about gaining acceptance as a leader by the North Korean people by virtue of her Kim family bloodline,” Soo Kim said. “North Korea’s fate begins and ends with the Kim family.”

    The other potential male Kim heirs are younger or less experienced in the halls of power in Pyongyang. His brother Kim Jong Chol has no official title and seems to be more interested in playing guitar than politics, while his nephew, Kim Han Sol, has denounced the regime and is believed to be living abroad.

    South Korean media reported that Kim Jong Un has a 10-year-old son, but none of his children have been officially mentioned in state media. Thae Yong Ho, the former No. 2 at North Korea’s embassy in London who defected to South Korea, said in a radio interview that one potential successor is Kim Pyong Il, the only surviving son of North Korea’s founder Kim Il Sung who returned to the country last year following four decades overseas serving as a diplomat.

    “Those who’re serving Kim Jong Un are the first generation in their 60s through 80s, so there’s at least a 30-year age gap with Yo Jong. In their eyes, Yo Jong is just a novice,” Thae said. The same argument was made when Kim Jong Un took power, though his youth didn’t block his ascent or his control over the old guard.

    Either way, Kim Yo Jong remains the most prominent heir. Born in either 1988 or 1989, she was once a chubby-cheeked girl who loved dancing and was nicknamed “Princess Yo Jong” by her father, the late dictator Kim Jong Il, according to a biography of Kim Jong Un titled “The Great Successor” by Anna Fifield. She joined her brother at a school in Bern, Switzerland until about 2000 and later came back to study in North Korea.
    Rising Profile

    Her appearance by her brother’s side at the time of their father’s death let the North Korean public know she was a part of the Paektu bloodline. She soon had a position in the Workers’ Party Propaganda and Agitation Department, according to South Korea, where she was responsible for managing the image of the leader in state media -- a post similar to one held by her father when he was being groomed for succession.

    Kim Jong Un and Kim Yo Jong at the inter-Korean summit in Paju, South Korea, on April 27, 2018.
    Source: Inter-Korean Summit Press Corps/Pool via Bloomberg

    She steadily rose through the ranks and became a closer confidante to her brother, accompanying him on inspection tours of factories, farms and military units. Then her high-profile appearances on the international stage, which included mundane tasks like helping the leader extinguish a cigarette during a train stop in China, helped cement her status.

    “When Kim Yo Jong has risen as high as she already has, she is no longer considered a woman but a leader who inherited greater legitimacy to rule than others,” said Chun Yungwoo, South Korea’s former envoy to international nuclear talks with North Korea. “North Korea certainly is one of the most male chauvinistic societies in the world, but bloodline supplemented by status in the Korea Workers’ Party supercedes gender.”

    Kim Yo Jong’s clout was on display last month when she personally responded to a letter from Trump offering assistance to fight Covid-19. In a statement carried by state-run Korean Central News Agency, she said Trump’s “close relations” with her brother weren’t enough to settle differences between the longstanding enemies -- providing a glimpse into how she would handle U.S.-North Korea ties if she does take power.

    ‘More Powerful’


    “We try to hope for the day when the relations between the two countries would be as good as the ones between the two top leaders, but it has to be left to time and be watched whether it can actually happen,” she said. “However, we will never lose or waste time for nothing, but will keep changing ourselves to be more powerful for that time just as how we made ourselves for the past two years.”

    Kim Hong-gul, the youngest son of former South Korean President Kim Dae-jung and a lawmaker-elect, said Kim Yo Jong looked firmly in control when a delegation from Seoul visited Pyongyang as part of a summit between the leaders of the countries in 2018.
    “I saw from a distance, at the airport upon our arrival and the banquet in Pyongyang, Yo Jong meticulously taking care of everything near her brother,” Kim Hong-gul said. “It looked like she was the top supervisor on the site.”

    On paper, there’s nothing stopping a woman from taking power in North Korea, even though its rubber-stamp parliament shows the vast majority of its members are older men -- one of the least gender diverse in the world. The constitution says “women are accorded an equal social status and rights with men.”

    Still, some analysts don’t think Kim Yo Jong could hold sway over the country’s generals who command the nuclear weapons program, which for many in Pyongyang represents the main guarantor of protection against a U.S. war for regime change. Ra Jong-yil, former deputy director of South Korea’s National Intelligence Service, said it was more likely the country is run by a military junta than Kim Yo Jong.

    Playing the Game


    “It is almost unthinkable to have a female leader in North Korea” in part due to its “unique patriarchy based on the Confucianism,” said Lee Byong-chul, a former South Korea presidential adviser on national security issues who is now a professor at the Institute for Far Eastern Studies in Seoul. He questioned whether she could control the “old male generals” without her brother’s influence, and saw it more likely that either her uncle Kim Pyong Il or nominal head of state Choe Ryong Hae takes over.
    Still, North Korea’s “cult-driven system” makes it essential to have a family member in charge, and Kim Jo Yong “has shown that she knows how to exercise authority,” according to Sung-Yoon Lee​, who teaches Korean Studies at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University in Massachusetts.

    “The generals with the big guns have every interest in protecting their own power and they understand that power runs through the Kim family,” he said. “She will be able to wield power through a mix of terror and promotions. She knows how to play the game.”
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    Can't vouch for the validity of this article but...
    Japanese media reports N. Korea's Kim Jong Un in vegetative state
    Shukan Gendai claims individual from dictator's Chinese medical team divulged information
    Japanese media reports N. Korea's Kim Jon... | Taiwan News

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    Was fatboy critically ill before the world locked down? With zero hard evidence either way, why shouldn't he join the world in isolation?

    Why should curtain twitching media and politicians read Chink medics in Noko as a sign that he's dying when they might well be there to test him for the virus every 4 hours?

    Show me a body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    ...it's more a matter of fat boy accepting her prominence.
    ...if, however, he's dead or permanently vegetative, the knives will be out as factions go after each other...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Indeed. That society is male dominated, and they will never allow a female to take power.
    Wondering why the "male dominated society" had elected the previous female president (now in jail) in South Korea.

    But perhaps the SK people are of different "society" than the ones in NK...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Wondering why the "male dominated society" had elected the previous female president (now in jail) in South Korea.

    But perhaps the SK people are of different "society" than the ones in NK...
    You have to be kidding me!! Same race but just a little bit of cultural and political difference over the last 70 years eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    You have to be kidding me!! Same race but just a little bit of cultural and political difference over the last 70 years eh?
    Perhaps you can enlighten me how different society were the people of East Germany before they got united with their cousins in West?

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    You really are a moron Klondyke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    But perhaps the SK people are of different "society" than the ones in NK...
    You really are thick as pig shit

    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Perhaps you can enlighten me how different society were the people of East Germany before they got united with their cousins in West?
    Yup - they were quite different in their technological and socio-political stages. East Germany was not a hermit 'kingdom'.

    Answered . . . but that you don't see the differences between East Germany and North Korea doesn't surprise me

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...if, however, he's dead or permanently vegetative, the knives will be out as factions go after each other...
    Indeed. He will officially be resting until the knives have been put away and the blood mopped from the floor and a clear successor is in control.

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    Dammit hourly tweets, daily "press conferences, Alluring photographs of his wife (from 30 years ago), notifying the world which hotel bedroom he sleeps in ... the masses need a fix.

    He's not a British Royal (current or resigned). Neither is he a Coronation Street luvvy. Get a grip on yourselves.

    Although to be fair he does like a morning bowl of porridge.

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    You do understand that this thread is about Kim, don't you? Don't you? That's only a partially rhetorical question

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