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    Failed applicants for cash handouts rally at Finance Ministry

    About 100 people converged in front of Finance Minister Uttama Savanayana’s office building today to demand an explanation as to why their claims for the 5,000 baht/month cash hardship subsidy were rejected.


    Most said that they received a text message from the Finance Ministry, informing them that they were not eligible because they were farmers or operated businesses.


    They claim that they are affected by business closures, just like other people who have already received the money, and are not sure if they would receive the handouts if they appeal.


    Finance Permanent Secretary Prasong Poonthanet and Mr. Lawan Saengsanit, director of the Fiscal Policy Office, met with the group and assured them that they will be able to lodge an appeal next week and the authorities will recheck their qualifications.


    About 27 million people registered for the subsidy. So far, 7.99 million applications have been screened with only 1.68 million passing the screening process.


    Many applicants have been classified as farmers, even though they are not, with many actually being sole traders and small-scale entrepreneurs. Even if the Government decided to extend the subsidy scheme to cover farmers, they may still not be eligible because they have never formally registered as farmers.

    Failed applicants for cash handouts rally at Finance Ministry – Thai PBS World

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    As the money has been budgeted and available, it makes sense with current levels of hardship in the already impoverished rural areas to be more liberal with the criteria, while giving notice that all applications will later be audited to identify fibbers, and with typically draconian Thai penalties for the opportunists.

    Iow, release as much of the funds as they can, much of which are going to be stolen by the controllers anyway, to those in need.

    Sickening to see docile adults queuing for a meal along Beach Road and no doubt other popular gathering posts.

    What's with the concrete traffic barriers/regulators and covers along Sukhumvit? Anything we should know, or wait to find out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    much of the funds as they can, much of which are going to be stolen by the controllers anyway
    Yup...

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    "Only enough for one month", says PM Prayut.

    Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha has stressed the government has yet to finalise the period for its 5,000-baht cash handout scheme to those affected by Covid-19, as the existing fund only covers one month.
    He said the government needs to wait for the enforcement of legislation to borrow one trillion baht so it will have more money to allocate to those affected.
    Quelle surprise..

    Relief cash only covers a month

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    Lot of anger over this.

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    Yeah. My mil isn't happy. She's in Sweden at the mo. Goes every year for 6 months in the summer but she still gets all the government cash handouts. I know it's wrong but 'not my plomplem'.

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    I'm not sure which is the more amusing, that this regime would actually follow through with its stated intentions or the expectation they could organise it.

    No one is allowed to walk on a beach in Chonburi, at any time, yet up and down the country we see government offices with officials all sitting together hugger-mugger, and hospital waiting rooms full of people sitting side by side all wearing masks in the naive and stupid belief they are protected from infection thereby.

    And from recent conversations with acquaintances, it seems two-metre social distancing at immigration offices is still unknown.

    But we can't buy a bottle of beer for home consumption so that makes everything tickety-boo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    But we can't buy a bottle of beer for home consumption
    Try going free for a while,it may do you the world of good.......

    I'm hearing this 5,000 baht hand out is making many people unhappy up in Isaan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    But we can't buy a bottle of beer for home consumption so that makes everything tickety-boo.
    It isn't clear to me what the principal driver is behind the ban on alcohol sales in shops. Now that Songkran has passed will this ban be reconsidered?

    Meanwhile, the village shop still has a bottle of Lao Khow behind the counter and the regulars still pop in for a quick nip. It is a help yourself arrangement and there is just a single shot glass, to be used by all. I have never seen that glass get washed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    I'm hearing this 5,000 baht hand out is making many people unhappy up in Isaan.
    Yes. That and the 'free Internet' which doesn't seem easy to get. I only know people whose applications were turned down because the didn't qualify, but they don't understand why.

    Raising expectations then disappointing people is stock in trade for politicians. However, maybe this is not the right time.

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    I'm hearing this 5,000 baht hand out is making many people unhappy up in Isaan.
    You're right there Horatio. From what my missus sez some woman went on 'Farcebook' bragging that she'd received her 5,000 Baht. People shopped her for not needing the money and it was taken away from her. So currently most folk are keeping schtum if they've received the handout.

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    Ye from what I'm hearing many have gone to social media to show how unhappy they are.

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    Would a failed gift promise trigger what a coup, corruption scandals, right deprivation or poorly-thought policies didn't?

    Money is now tight, but they still have some to pay the numerous generals wages and fancy toys...

    Anyway this covid crisis could be a blessing in disguise for the Junta, they can blame it for the poor economic results even though it started before this crisis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farang Ky Ay View Post
    Anyway this covid crisis could be a blessing in disguise for the Junta
    More so for the police. Plenty of places, from my understanding, have been caught selling alcohol and then paying the police tea money. I suppose the curfew will have been just as lucrative?

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    apparently 3% got it, most don't seem to qualify simply because they are not in any government system database, and checking their identity or true claim is impossible

    they should have done the Thaksin way, go to villages and give them cash directly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    they should have done the Thaksin way, go to villages and give them cash directly
    You mean through the Thai farmers bank.

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    Could be our glorious elites might yet again underestimate the power of angry citizens.

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    ^The people of this country have never gone hungry before. And when the work dries up, they traditionally go back to their homes and farms, upcountry.

    No work, no money, and restricted travel could make for a very pissed off population. Even one that has a gun pointed to it's head.

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    Crime will go up, particularly directed against foreigners. After all, they're rich... aren't they ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Crime will go up, particularly directed against foreigners. After all, they're rich... aren't they ?
    Even one of the local cops (a friend) told my wife to get a gun in the house due to the current outlook. Been burgled twice, and one attempted, over the years and had my dogs poisoned before break-in. I may just take up his offer.

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    Prag, burglary and violent home invasion is merely nature's way of telling you to move to civilisation.

    The fucking boonies in a third world jungle environment is no place for a white man.

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