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    General Motors is retreating from Australia, New Zealand and Thailand

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    • GM will “wind down” its sales, design and engineering operations in Australia and New Zealand and discontinue its Holden brand in the region by 2021.
    • The automaker also announced plans to exit Thailand, including withdrawing Chevrolet by the end of this year and selling a plant to Chinese automaker Great Wall Motors.
    • GM CEO Mary Barra said the actions are part of the automaker’s global restructuring, which was initially announced in 2015, to concentrate on profitable markets.


    General Motors (GM) retreats from Australia, New Zealand and Thailand

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    Ant had a link to the story as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    And that's all she wrote:

    Death of Holden: End of iconic car brand in NZ - NZ Herald

    Kinda sad in a way since I grew up with the marque but then if you're not making cars that people actually want that's what happens I suppose. I drove one of the 'new' (and now last) Commodore wagons on recent trip in NZ and it was, to not point too fine a point on it, utter shit. An under-powered front-wheel drive turd.
    “Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago”

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    Australia and New Zealand....Thailand...
    So pretty much all RHD production then.

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    Holden Commodore is now an Opel. Made by the froggie company PSA. It's a piece of shite. Very rare to see one on the roads here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    Holden Commodore is now an Opel.
    Wasn't the original Commodore Opel anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Wasn't the original Commodore Opel anyway?
    Nope though they have long time been different brands under the same umbrella.

    There was the odd cross-over and re-badge going on back in the day but for the most part seperate makes and models.

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    gee, nice to know for all the previous buyers of Chevrolet in Thailand, they are going to be fucked over with warranty, parts etc...

    almost bought that Captiva thing at point, glad I didn't

    in Thailand, go Japanese!!!

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    If it’s anything like Aust / NZ then they’re obliged to provide parts, service, and warranty care for another 10 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Wasn't the original Commodore Opel anyway?
    Yes it was and a Commodore Coupe -68 was my first car in the mid 70's.
    Kapitän, Admiral, Commodore are Opel models from that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    gee, nice to know for all the previous buyers of Chevrolet in Thailand, they are going to be fucked over with warranty, parts etc...

    almost bought that Captiva thing at point, glad I didn't

    in Thailand, go Japanese!!!
    I have both a Cruze and a Captiva ... both models on sale in the USA.

    Parts will be available for 10 years +

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    those NZ cars are just too horrible for words,

    Opel is a big fooking joke here in Europe,

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    Meh, they aren't the first Auto maker to pull up stumps and leave Aus and won't be the last.

    Aus Gumbyment should ask for the handouts back though..... From all the auto makers over the years that put their hand out.

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    GM's retreat from ANZ is pretty much non-news. Their erstwhile factories are long gone, and forgotten. Strangely, the once iconic Holden brand has enjoyed a resurgence among collectors and nostalgic types. Quite a few of them fetch more now than they ever did new.

    Much bigger news, of course, is the Thai retreat. So Great Wall buys up the assets on the cheap- I suppose even that comes as no surprise. I wouldn't be surprised if they, or one of their big Chinese competitors, buy out the Holden brand name from GM. It would be quite a canny marketing move imo, although in reality it is nothing more than a badge.

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    ^ Agree.

    The Chinese bought the MG badge, and by the looks of it, they seem to be doing ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Yes it was and a Commodore Coupe -68 was my first car in the mid 70's.
    Kapitän, Admiral, Commodore are Opel models from that time.
    Kadett


    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Opel is a big fooking joke here in Europe,
    Used to be an OK car

    Were never crap like Renault

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Yes it was and a Commodore Coupe -68 was my first car in the mid 70's.
    Kapitän, Admiral, Commodore are Opel models from that time.
    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Kadett
    Let's not forget the simply awesome Manta!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    GM's retreat from ANZ is pretty much non-news. Their erstwhile factories are long gone, and forgotten. Strangely, the once iconic Holden brand has enjoyed a resurgence among collectors and nostalgic types. Quite a few of them fetch more now than they ever did new.
    Some of the muscle cars from yesteryear fetch mind blowing amounts - hundreds of thousands of $.

    Some great cars were made in Oz during the 60s, 70s and 80s. Many of them worthy of exporting, but that never happened, which has eventually been their downfall.

    It would have been nice if Australia had tried to be a world leader in the production of electric cars instead of closing down our factories a few years back.

    RIP to the Australian car industry. Well and truly dead and buried now..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles
    Some of the muscle cars from yesteryear fetch mind blowing amounts - hundreds of thousands of $.
    GTHO Phase III - $600,000 - 1M
    GTS Monaro - $250,000++
    R/T E49 Charger - $300,000+
    GTR XU1 - $150,000+
    ...

    The list goes on. Even a decent replica of any of the above couldn't be had for less than $50,000+ these days, more like $80,000+ for most.

    So it does make to laugh to read some of the *ahem* less informed comments from certain posters on here at times... No names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Let's not forget the simply awesome Manta!
    Yes,but not named after a Navy rank, or....

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Yes,but not named after a Navy rank, or....
    Ah, but also nautical

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Nope though they have long time been different brands under the same umbrella.

    There was the odd cross-over and re-badge going on back in the day but for the most part seperate makes and models.
    Opel Commodore - Wikipedia


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    Oh sweet baby jesus... that makes me want to scrub my eyes with bleach!

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    Opportune time / thread to reminisce about some of me favorite GMH offerings I suppose...

    LJ GTR XU1:



    HDT VC 'Brock' Commodore:



    HK GTS Monaro:



    HSV GTSR:



    And last but not least, the car plenty of my generation grew up in the venerable HQ:



    Our family car was that same exact color (but the station wagon variant)

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    Incidentally, this Brock race-driven HDT VH Commodore set the Australian price record a few years back going for $2.1m at auction (and still holds the record as far as I know):




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