Thread: General Motors is retreating from Australia, New Zealand and Thailand

Originally Posted by kmart

^Are GM legally obliged to continue providing spares and service after pulling out from the manufacturing?

Yes but that might be outsourced to certified or appvd locations or shops. GM will not keep service centers open or if they do it will be in select locations. If you have a GM product you will likely receive a notification on where you can have the vehicle serviced or repaired.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Anyways if you think that's going to occur in the next five years (or petrol disappear within our lifetimes) you are dreaming.

Completely true. And these total fucking retards that think fossil fuels will simply stopped being produced shortly, they really should educate themselves first on what would also disappear from the planet without them (besides combustion engines) and ask themselves how they'll survive without it.

Originally Posted by Norton

Mostly Izuzu design.

Yep. The Duramax engine platform is Isuzu. GM and Isuzu collaborated on the Duramax engine back in 2000. The US only saw the 6.6liter V8 option that was an outstanding engine and were initially released in the C or K 3500 trucks for heavy towing. Later in 2001 they were available in all C or K 2500HD platforms at a pretty steep optioned price. I had a 2001 K3500 4x4 Dually truck with the Duramax Engine and Allison automatic transmission. I routinely towed my loaded 15,000 lb race car trailer all over the Pacific northwest going to racing events. I racked up nearly 300,000 miles on the truck with only 1 injector failure which GM replaced at no charge even out of warranty. Bosch had a design issue early on with the injector mechanism.

GM reoriented its activities toward shitty cars years ago, the only decent vehicle they sell here is indeed the Colorado pick up, but the few owners I know weren't satisfied by fuel consumption (BTW Isuzu pick-up trucks owners seem to have the same complaint).
GM has already left the European market and India in 2017...hope for them they remain successful in US market.

GM does very well in the US. Their Suburban, Yukon and the Silverado truck line sustain themselves well. I would love to have a Chevrolet ZR2 truck here. It's the Ford Raptor equivalent and comes with some really trick off road components.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

It was very fucking complicated.

Sure is. Name and branding also important.

GM introduced a top selling US market car called Chevrolet Nova into Spanish speaking countries. Terrible sales until the name was changed from Nova to Caribe. Sales took off.

No va in Spanish, No go.

Originally Posted by Norton

Sure is. Name and branding also important.

GM introduced a top selling US market car called Chevrolet Nova into Spanish speaking countries. Terrible sales until the name was changed from Nova to Caribe. Sales took off.

No va in Spanish, No go.

I remember that Norton. Funny as Hell.

I raced a 67 Nova SS L79 327/350hp car. Fast, light weight street car. Of course back then tires were poly glass bias ply tires and you could burn them right off the wheels
Back when street racing was fun stuff.

Might be some questions raised too about a car known as Ho-Den.

Originally Posted by JPPR2

Of course back then tires were poly glass bias ply tires and you could burn them right off the wheels

Or do this with non poly.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...nnVDWF2vKxyHtP

Originally Posted by taxexile

In 5 years time the political and ecological landscape will be such that anyone using one of these polluting behemoths on the public roads will be seen in much the same way as homophobics and racists are seen today and slowly but surely pilloried out of existence.

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^^If I could work out how to post vids I could post my topical one of doing burnouts in a Holden rental.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

^^If I could work out how to post vids I could post my topical one of doing burnouts in a Holden rental.

Mate, all this wizz bang technology.

Just put a stamp on it and post it in the letter box.

Simples

little birdy told me the whole GM dumping RHD vehicles thing... has been confirmed to Include the Corvette !!

I wonder what effect (if any) this is going to have on the classics market also.

Probably a quick bump I'd imagine.

In any case it was clear to me GM's rapid push to expand into Asia was ill thought out and bound to fail over time.

Ford has done much better but Japanese still the masters of doing it right in Automotive and Electronics.

As the taxpayer subsidies ran out, so did Ho-Den.





It you wanna get all starry eyed about a technologically defunct brand kept on life support with your dollar, well it's your dollar.

AUD not NZD

Originally Posted by Norton

In any case it was clear to me GM's rapid push to expand into Asia was ill thought out and bound to fail over time.

Ford has done much better but Japanese still the masters of doing it right in Automotive and Electronics.

You are absolutely right. While the market in SE Asia demands mid size trucks, the market was already owned by Toyota and Isuzu and their reliability and factory service is top notch.

One big gripe always heard here in Thailand is that Chevrolet and Ford service is terrible. Quite frankly it is bad in the US as well. Toyota,/Lexus, Nissan/Infiniti, Benz all lead the way.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

^^If I could work out how to post vids I could post my topical one of doing burnouts in a Holden rental.

YouTube is your friend Ant. Just ask Fishlocker....

I watched the Bathurst 12 hour recently. A Bentley won- that was a first. So have toyota, porsche, nissan, mazda, bmw, benz, ferrari, mclaren, mitsubishi- in fact just about everyone but, you know who.

Originally Posted by sabang

I watched the Bathurst 12 hour recently. A Bentley won- that was a first. So have toyota, porsche, nissan, mazda, bmw, benz, ferrari, mclaren, mitsubishi- in fact just about everyone but, you know who.

Yeah but that's the GT and production race, far less known and prestigious than the Bathurst 1000.

In fact I'm not even sure Holden have ever competed have they?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Yeah but that's the GT and production race, far less known and prestigious than the Bathurst 1000.

In fact I'm not even sure Holden have ever competed have they?

Farrrkkkkk ... they even had a Toyota Yaris spinning around only a decade ago!

2010 Armor All Bathurst 12 Hour - Wikipedia

https://www.bathurst12hour.com.au/ra...revious-races/

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Originally Posted by David48atTD

Farrrkkkkk ... they even had a Toyota Yaris spinning around only a decade ago!

Even the Bathurst 1000 has had a fairly eclectic list of entrants and winners. Everything from Minis which dominated (finishing pos. 1 - 9 in '66) to legendary fire-breathing Nissans that were effectively banned for being a bit too good.

In its pre-Bathurst iteration it was even won by a Vauxhall of all things.