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    Tourism Ministry considers collecting tourism fees

    BANGKOK(NNT) - The Ministry of Tourism and Sport has introduced the idea of collecting fees from international visitors for the renovation of tourism attractions and natural resources, as well as providing insurance benefits specifically for tourists.


    The Tourism Ministry recently held its first workshop to gather opinions from government agencies and private companies working in tourism, as well as insurance companies and revolving funds. Most of the participants say the measure must be introduced at an appropriate time to minimize distruption of the national tourism scene. They have also requested more details of the plan to use fees collected for attraction renovation and insurance benefits.


    The Ministry of Tourism and Sports will be holding another session to gather more opinions, and will collate all sugestions and submit them to Thailandís Tourism Fundís board, the National Tourism Policy Committee, and ultimately to the Cabinet for consideration.

    National News Bureau Of Thailand

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    So, they ain't satisfied with the dual pricing that rips off foreigners paying for visits to zoos, aquariums, national parks and receiving hospital treatment in addition to the passenger tax revenue?

    " Why we invest our profits, na? You farang pay me more so you fix ploblems, not me, na"

    God, how I utterly detest this repulsive society.

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    Jeez they really our going on an anti tourist jaunt.

    I won't go to the ferking parks now.

    Went to a national park near Chong mek late last year,the kids paid 20 baht and I got charged 400 baht,nearly told them to ram it up there Jaxy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    God, how I utterly detest this repulsive society
    I have to ask, why in hell do you spend so much time on this site whinging and whining about a country and society you have such a great disdain for? Does it some how make you feel better?

    Just curious

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    I have to ask, why in hell do you spend so much time on this site whinging and whining about a country and society you have such a great disdain for? Does it some how make you feel better?

    Just curious
    Perhaps he has already forgotten which country he had come here from?

    Or has the 'double standard" propaganda we daily are bombarded with infected his common sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post

    whinging
    I prefer "whingeing ", the alternative chosen by you is in my book quite erroneous even though lexicons permit its use.

    But in answer to your question, I enjoy it and it gives me satisfaction as I loll about in bored, feckless indolence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Perhaps he has already forgotten which country he had come here from?
    You have a problem with Ireland? From your obvious wealth of knowledge about the island share with us how horrible it is there, specifically compared to Thailand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    But in answer to your question, I enjoy it and it gives me satisfaction as I loll about in bored, feckless indolence.
    Fair enough...Carry on.

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    SUNDAY OBSERVER; THE JOY OF ANGER
    By Russell Baker
    Sept. 5, 1982



    This is a digitized version of an article from The Times’s print archive, before the start of online publication in 1996. To preserve these articles as they originally appeared, The Times does not alter, edit or update them.
    Occasionally the digitization process introduces transcription errors or other problems; we are continuing to work to improve these archived versions.


    The Joy of Anger

    I'm tired of advice on love and of books and lectures and television panelists who preach the wonder of love and how to make love to women, men, animals, plants and dining-room furniture and the joy that comes of loving all humanity. Love is nice, love is swell, and I'm in favor of it, but these love bores constantly telling us, ''Love is everything,'' are creating a terrible distortion of emotional values.

    What about anger? Why don't any of these experts on human emotion tell us something useful about anger? Judging from the news, there's at least as much anger as love pumping through the American bloodstream.

    Pick up any day's newspaper, and there it is: ''Angered Parent Kills Spouse and Four Children''; ''Angered by Firing, Man Slays 10''; ''Angry Son Mails Mom a Letter Bomb''; ''Angered Citizen Punches Supreme Court Justice,'' and on and on. It's senseless to say the problem with these people is that they don't know how to love.

    When you're angry, as these people are, you don't want somebody shoving Leo Buscaglia's ''Living, Loving and Learning'' or Michael Morgenstern's ''How to Make Love to a Woman'' under your nose. As the Book of Revelations must say somewhere, there is a time for love and a time for anger, and when it's time for anger you don't want either bromides or technical manuals about love; you want some way to let everybody know you're sore without having to slay spouse and four children.

    What we need is not another volume on ''How To Make Love'' but some foolproof advice on ''How To Make Anger.'' I was struck by the lack of sound advice on the subject when, one day this summer, I found myself shouting and pounding the desk in front of an airline clerk because a flight had been oversold and he refused to permit standing in the airplane aisles. I was astonished by my outburst, for I am so ignorant of the art of being angry that I haven't let myself enjoy a refreshing public outburst in 20 years.

    Fortuntely for the airline clerk, I am one of those odd Americans who never carry a sawed-off shotgun or even a handgun, so he was able to sneer at my rage with impunity. Fortunately for the passengers who were not being left behind, none approached me with counsel on the joys of loving, for I was furious enough to kick luggage to pieces with tennis shoes.

    What still burned in my soul after a sedative four hours in the airport waiting lounge was the utter calm with which the officious devil at the airline desk ignored my show of anger. I realized he must have seen anger in all its forms, including the great masters of rage so skilled at outrage that he had quaked, gone aboard airplanes to haul off passengers already seated and given their places to those of whose anger he stood in awe.

    I was not one deserving such respect. He had seen thousands like me. The trembling voice, the purple face, the bulging eyeballs, the quivering hands. He had sized me up perfectly, had said to himself, ''Utterly ineffectual when abused by airline, hotel and car-rental clerks; hasn't the slightest notion how to make anger; can be easily crushed by my calm, superior manner which I shall use to give him a twist of the knife by showing that not only do I not love him, I don't even respect him.''

    Because the Leo Buscaglias and the Michael Morgensterns of the world have concentrated solely on improving my competence at love, I can find no useful tips on how to sharpen my competence at being angry with airline clerks.


    Because of this weakness, over the years I have found it wiser to confine my expressions of anger to long bouts of sullenness and sulking. The immediate rewards are not bad. Once the people with whom you're angry - a wife, say, or a child - notice you are sulking, their curiosity will stimulate questions.

    ''All right, what are you sulking about this time?'' Answer (very sullenly voiced): ''I'm not sulking.'' ''Of course you're sulking. You've been sulking for days. Now get it off your chest.'' The one thing you mustn't do at this point is get it off your chest. This is not a friendly invitation, but a trap designed by the other party to make your voice tremble, your face turn purple and your eyeballs bulge. ''How childish'' the object of your anger can then say, luxuriating in the sense of being calm, unchildish and superior to a person whose anger is so incompetently expressed.

    All I can recommend is continued sulking, and I recommend it with grave reservations. Years of quiet sulking, whether at a wife, a child or an airline clerk, often build up a residue of poison which calcifies into hate, and we all know what an unhappy effect hate has on love, don't we?

    There will probably be a new book about it published soon. ''Love Your Way Out of the Sulks.'' Just thinking about it makes me grind my molars, quietly, sullenly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    You have a problem with Ireland? From your obvious wealth of knowledge about the island share with us how horrible it is there, specifically compared to Thailand
    Ireland was a fine place albeit one in which the weather dampened enthusiasm somewhat - a temperate maritime climate distinguished by an average annual temperature of 10c and 1000mm of rainfall. I say "was", but now a terrible thing has happened which blights everything except for the very rich. Th 2008 crash stymied construction and the economy went into contraction and paralysis from which it has emerged and regained its former buoyancy but property development is way behind the curve with the consequence of ludicrous pricing for what in most other developed countries would qualify as shabby, old-fashioned shitholes. In metropolitan areas, particularly Dublin, there is no availability to speak of and entire classes of the community are practically excluded from housing. Students are now "hot-bedding" ( I mean that in the submariner sense and not redolent of those halcyon days of shagfesting in an alcoholic/drug fuelled oblivion ) and in areas where work is plentiful most folk are forced to pay rents of EUR1,300-EUR1,500 per month for nondescript accommodation, the highest in Europe.

    Nevertheless, I shall be returning shortly to my spiritual and ancestral home in the wondrous environs of Donegal where such exigencies are less pressing.

    Previously, the wingman and I were intent on a return to the Devon/West Dorset coastal hinterlands but the Brxit filth has polluted the place beyond forbearance.

    The housing problems and their concomitant adverse impact on transport services explains Sinn Fein's startling rise to prominence.

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    ...collecting fees from international visitors for the renovation of tourism attractions and natural resources, as well as providing insurance benefits specifically for tourists.
    That's a long winded way of saying "trousering cash".

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    Quote Originally Posted by NNT View Post
    BANGKOK(NNT) - The Ministry of Tourism and Sport has introduced the idea of collecting fees from international visitors
    They already do that. Remember when you had to pay an exit fee at the airport? (500baht?) Then they hid it by making it part of the plane fare. Now they want more?
    Nev has style

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    I've already posed that question. Do keep up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Nevertheless, I shall be returning shortly to my spiritual and ancestral home in the wondrous environs of Donegal where such exigencies are less pressing.

    Previously, the wingman and I were intent on a return to the Devon/West Dorset coastal hinterlands but the Brxit filth has polluted the place beyond forbearance.
    i bet they can't wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    They already do that. Remember when you had to pay an exit fee at the airport? (500baht?) Then they hid it by making it part of the plane fare. Now they want more?
    AOT trouser that, not TAT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    They already do that. Remember when you had to pay an exit fee at the airport? (500baht?) Then they hid it by making it part of the plane fare. Now they want more?
    Those fees are levied by all airlines out of all cities. The only change was to make it easier to pay by putting the tax in the flight ticket. Saved a stop at the departure tax kiosk.

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    The fee actually rose to 700 bahts when they included it in the airline fares.

    Dual pricing is already outrageous and is supposed to help maintain tourist attraction, especially when you think that every tourist already pays this 700b fee, then they want to add another fee?

    Also why do they lift visa fees for certain nationalities to attract them and then want to make them pay this new fee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farang Ky Ay View Post
    Also why do they lift visa fees for certain nationalities to attract them and then want to make them pay this new fee?
    Balance it out, I guess

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    Few weeks ago I wrote here about levying tourist daily fee in Amsterdam. And I mentioned being afraid that Mr. P. (not Putin) will follow the suit.

    Sorry, if he (Mr.P.) read it here...

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    the airport fee increased simply because it was a bigger and better Airport with far more facility than the previous one

    still cheap, in most developed countries that airport tax is 5,000 THB to pay for all the immigrants cleaning the airport

    most tourist hotels in Europe also charges you a 2EUR daily visitor fee,

    let's hope the Thai don't get the same ideas, they could buy fewer submarines and focus on their civil assets for once

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    So, they ain't satisfied with the dual pricing that rips off foreigners paying for visits to zoos, aquariums, national parks and receiving hospital treatment in addition to the passenger tax revenue?

    " Why we invest our profits, na? You farang pay me more so you fix ploblems, not me, na"

    God, how I utterly detest this repulsive society.
    You could always emigrate .... oh wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Those fees are levied by all airlines out of all cities. The only change was to make it easier to pay by putting the tax in the flight ticket. Saved a stop at the departure tax kiosk.
    It's an Airport tax though. Supposedly pays for all those wonderful facilities like runways and toilets. It's just collected by the airlines to save a bit of admin.

    Must have upset all those people who used to work in the kiosks and could probably pop the odd Bt500 or Bt1000 down their sock.

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    Are you sure this 700b fee is for airport tax? I think there is already an airport tax, which is quite comparable to what is levied by other airport (3/4k), that 700b fee goes on addition of that.

    What they do with this money isn't really my concern, if they use it for other things than tourism related things it's up to them as long as they don't ask for more because money was spent somewhere else...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    You could always emigrate .... oh wait.

    Indeed, or I could simply move to the fucking jungle in a third world country and fester among savages like you Chas, a foreign pustule of redundancy waiting for his carcass to seep his worthless self into the dirt of utter indifference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Indeed, or I could simply move to the fucking jungle in a third world country and fester among savages
    Harsh way to describe Australians, but I can't really argue.

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