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    190 new cases in a city of 25 million is a lot?

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    they have a zero COVID policy and that is why they are locking down 25 Mil at a time for what is now no worse than the common cold

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    Russia would consider North Korea request for COVID vaccine supply



    May 13 (Reuters) – Russia will promptly consider any request from North Korea for COVID-19 vaccine supplies, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said on Friday.


    “North Korean comrades are well aware of our various inoculations, they are aware of our extensive experience with COVID,” Peskov said. “If there are appeals from Pyongyang, they will be dealt with promptly.”


    At least one person confirmed to have COVID-19 has died in North Korea and hundreds of thousands have shown fever symptoms, state media said on Friday, offering hints at the potentially dire scale of the country’s first confirmed outbreak of the pandemic.


    While the Biden administration has no plans now to share COVID-19 vaccines with North Korea, White House press secretary Jen Psaki said on Thursday.


    North Korea reported its first COVID-19 outbreak on Thursday, calling it the “gravest national emergency” and ordering a national lockdown, with state media saying an Omicron variant had been detected in the capital, Pyongyang.

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    Kim blasts pandemic response as North Korean outbreak surges

    SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korean leader Kim Jong Un criticized officials over slow medicine deliveries and mobilized the military to respond to a surge in suspected COVID-19 infections, as his nation struggled to contain a fever that has reportedly killed dozens and sickened nearly a million others in a span of three days.


    North Korean health authorities said Monday that eight more people died and an additional 392,920 were newly found to have feverish symptoms. That brings the death toll to 50 and illnesses to more than 1.2 million, respectively. It’s a sharp jump from six dead and 350,000 sick reported last Friday, a day after the North said that it found that an unspecified number of people in capital Pyongyang tested positive for the omicron variant.


    Kim has acknowledged that the fast-spreading fever, highly likely driven by COVID-19, is causing “great upheaval” in the country, and outside experts say the true scale of the outbreak is likely much bigger than what’s described in the state-controlled media.

    Some suspect that North Korea has understated its fatalities or illnesses to shield Kim's leadership from criticism. The North likely lacks test kits and other tools to detect virus carriers with no or mild symptoms, which means that several million might already have been infected.


    “When people die, North Korean authorities will say they’ve died of overwork or from natural deaths, not because of COVID-19,” said Nam Sung-wook, a professor at Korea University in South Korea. Nam said the North is likely understating the death toll to protect “the dignity of its supreme leader.”


    While neighboring South Korea and China have offered to send medical supplies and other help, experts say it’s too late to inoculate the North’s 26 million people, and that the only realistic outside help would be offering limited supplies of vaccines to reduce deaths among high-risk groups, including the elderly and people with preexisting conditions.


    It's also unclear whether and how soon Kim would accept outside offers of aid because he has previously rallied for unity at home to guard against the pandemic without resorting to foreign help.


    State media didn’t specify how many of the fever cases were confirmed as COVID-19. Among the 50 fatalities, North Korea officially identified only one as a COVID-19 case so far.


    North Korea is believed to be mostly relying on isolating people with symptoms at shelters. Analyst Cheong Seong-Chang at South Korea’s Sejong Institute said the North’s limited number of test kits are likely mainly reserved for the ruling elite.


    Failing to slow the virus could have dire consequences for North Korea, considering its broken health care system and that its people are believed to be unvaccinated. There's also malnourishment and chronic poverty.


    The North imposed what it described as maximum preventive measures that restricted travel between cities and counties, and Kim ordered public health officials, teachers and others to identify people with fevers so they could be quarantined. As of Sunday, more than 564,860 people were in quarantine, North Korea's state media reported.


    The explosive growth in fever cases may underscore how fast omicron could travel across an unvaccinated population without access to proper health tools, and fatalities will surely jump in coming weeks considering time lags between infections and deaths, said Jung Jae-hun, a professor of preventive medicine at South Korea’s Gachon University.


    While it's clear COVID-19 is spreading at an alarming speed, there are questions about the accuracy of North Korea's fever tally. Jung said it's unlikely that North Korean health workers are able to make reliable daily updates, considering the lack of tests and other resources, and are possibly adding multiple days of cases into their single-day counts following delays.


    Cho Han Bum, an analyst at Seoul's Korea Institute for National Unification, said North Korea's fever totals seemed an “outright lie.”


    "North Korea says about 390,000 more fell ill but only eight died in the past day, while South Korea (on Sunday) reported 25,000 new cases and 48 deaths,” he said.


    Yang Moo-jin, a professor at Seoul’s University of North Korean Studies, said that the real number of COVID-19 infections in North Korea is likely at least three times larger than North Korea's tally of fever patients because of underreporting, the bad health care system and poorly computerized administrative networks.


    Kim during a ruling party Politburo meeting on Sunday criticized government and health officials over what he portrayed as a botched pandemic response, saying medicine supplies aren’t being distributed to pharmacies in time because of their “irresponsible work attitude” and lack of organization.


    The Politburo had issued an emergency order to immediately release and quickly distribute state medicine reserves and for pharmacies to open for 24-hour shifts, but Kim said such steps weren’t being properly implemented. Kim ordered the medical units of his military to get involved in stabilizing the supply of medicine in Pyongyang, KCNA said.


    North Korea’s previous claim of a perfect record in keeping out the virus for 2 1/2 years was widely doubted. But its extremely strict border closure, large-scale quarantines and propaganda that stressed anti-virus controls as a matter of “national existence” may have staved off a huge outbreak until now.


    South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol told the National Assembly on Monday that the South was willing to send vaccines, medicine, equipment and health personnel to the North if it’s willing to accept.


    South Korean officials say Pyongyang so far has made no request for Seoul’s help. The North also shunned millions of vaccine doses offered by the U.N.-backed COVAX distribution program, likely because they carried international monitoring requirements.


    Kim still stressed the country’s economic goals should be met, which likely means huge groups will continue to gather at agricultural, industrial and construction sites.

    Kim blasts pandemic response as North Korean outbreak surges | Taiwan News | 2022-05-16 1618

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    they have a zero COVID policy and that is why they are locking down 25 Mil at a time for what is now no worse than the common cold
    I spoke with Miss Shanghai today. She has been alone in her flat for nearly two months and I can see that the conditions are beginning to affect her. She got rice and yoghurt dlivered today, not quite standard Chinese fare. She is thoroughly bored with the rice and vegetable choices she has for her meals. She gets up about midday and sits around all day except that she is now allowed out into the garden area of her apartments and she walks around there in the evening. It takes about 2 to 3 minutes to do a circuit and she does ten or so rounds before dinner. Then it is Korean dramas on the television until the small hours. She has started taking a prescription medicine to sleep, addictive stuff that she had left over when her mother passed away. It isn't great.
    She is told that she might be allowed out of her complex soon. She is also told that it might be the middle of next month. She really doesn't know what will happen. She hears stories of jumpers, people who are giving up and climbing out of their windows. It is difficult to know how many suicides there are.
    Her living room light bulb has died. She has no replacement and there are no shops open where one can be bought.
    She is still one of the luckier ones, her daughter is not far away and they can chat on WeChat. She also has two sisters to talk to. I try to call her at varying times to change her day. Other people, especially older folk, are leading lonelier lives. I cannot imagine how mothers with young children are holding out in small apartments.
    This is real life in Shanghai today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    they have a zero COVID policy and that is why they are locking down 25 Mil at a time for what is now no worse than the common cold
    Unfortunately, given that their vaccines are next to useless, it is far from being "no worse than the common cold".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    190 new cases in a city of 25 million is a lot?
    Do you think people are going to own up to having it when they see the conditions they will be kept in?

    Fuck, most tourists are just keeping schtum in Thailand nowadays.
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    Some in Shanghai allowed out to shop; end of COVID lockdown in sight

    SHANGHAI/BEIJING, May 19 (Reuters) – More Shanghai residents were given the freedom to go out to shop for groceries for the first time in nearly two months on Thursday as authorities set out more plans for exiting the city-wide COVID-19 lockdown more fully.


    The commercial hub of 25 million recorded no new infections outside quarantined areas for a fifth day in a row, further cementing its “zero COVID” status with each day.


    “I feel very happy, the lifting of the lockdown is starting,” shopper Zhong Renqiu said at a Carrefour CARR.PA supermarket in the central Changning district that had just reopened.


    “We’ve mainly relied on government provisions and group-buys,” said Zhong, who was stocking up on eggs, goji berries, black sesame and oats.


    But officials are wary of the danger of new flare-ups of infection in their high-stakes effort to gradually re-open and are planning to keep most residents largely indoors this month, and prioritising work and production over other activities.


    Deputy mayor Zhang Wei said economic activity had been recovering with businesses able to operate with workers living on site and that authorities would allow more to resume normal operations from the beginning of June.


    The city was “striving to achieve a full resumption of work and production as soon as possible,” he said.


    “The rhythm of work resumption” would be based on the COVID situation, he said, adding that for the rest of May, on-site work restrictions would remain in place.


    Some housing compounds in the Changning district distributed passes on Thursday for residents to enter the Carrefour store.


    The passes were for one person from each household to go to the shop for 40 minutes and spend up to 500 yuan ($74). Residents were advised to walk or ride a bicycle to the shop and told to queue at the entrance two metres apart.


    Some shoppers wore protective gowns, while others wore face shields and gloves.


    In another positive sign, four of the city’s 18 metro lines will resume operations from Sunday.


    Shanghai reported fewer than 800 new cases. None were from outside quarantined areas, for a fifth day in a row.


    The capital Beijing has not imposed a city-wide shutdown but has gradually tightened restrictions over the past month to contain a small but persistent outbreak of a few dozen new infections a day. It reported 55 new cases for May 18, down from 69.


    SIGNS OF LIFE


    Deputy mayor Zhang said Shanghai’s economy was gradually returning to normal with daily container throughput at its ports at 90% of the levels of a year ago.


    Pudong Airport cargo throughput has reached 70% of last year’s levels, while the number of freight vehicles entering and leaving the city was back to two thirds, he said.


    Roughly half of Taiwanese companies that suspended work in China because of COVID had resumed production, the democratically ruled island’s economy minister said.


    In another sign of improvement in China’s manufacturing, data showed retail car sales jumped 27% in the first half of May from the same period in April.


    But they were still down 21% from a year earlier.


    COVID curbs in May were not as strict and widespread as in April but still weighed on growth.


    Goldman Sachs on Wednesday cut its 2022 economic growth forecast for China to 4% from 4.5%, well below the government’s official target of about 5.5%, and warned it could slip further.


    China’s “zero COVID” policy has placed hundreds of millions of people in dozens of cities under various curbs and disrupted global manufacturing and firms ranging from Apple AAPL.O and Tesla TSLA.O to Starbucks SBUX.O and Walmart WMT.N.


    The New York Federal Reserve reported in its latest update to a worldwide index of supply problems that air freight costs between the United States and Asia rose in April and delivery times lengthened globally.


    This could mean persistent inflation around the world and rising borrowing costs.


    British luxury brand Burberry BRBY.L said on Wednesday its prospects depended on how quickly China, its biggest market where sales had fallen, recovers from lockdowns.

    https://www.thaipbsworld.com/some-in...down-in-sight/

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    Thailand to consider further easing of COVID-19 restrictions on Friday

    The easing of restrictions on entertainment venues, such as bars and pubs, readjustment of COVID zoning and the lowering of the national alert level, from Level 3 to 2, are expected to be considered by the Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) tomorrow (Friday).


    Government Spokesman Thanakorn Wangboonkongchana said today that, as the COVID-19 situation steadily improves, with fewer infections and deaths, the CCSA will consider easing of restrictions in line with the COVID-19 situation.


    The measures to be discussed, he said, include re-zoning, the lowering of the alert level and easing of restrictions, such as allowing pubs, bars and karaoke bars to reopen fully in some areas especially touristic provinces. Currently, some such venues are allowed to open as “eateries”, as long as they meet the requirements set by the authorities.


    Thanakorn said that Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha, who chairs the CCSA, has stressed the need for some measures to be in place, to control the spread of the virus, and has sought cooperation of the vulnerable people, namely those over 60, suffering from certain underlying diseases and pregnant women, by getting vaccinated for their own safety.


    According to the COVID-19 Information Centre today, there were 6,305 new infections and 42 COVID related fatalities in the past 24 hours and 1,104 cases of lung inflammation still undergoing treatment. Thailand’s daily COVID-19 infections fell below 10,000 for the first time on May 2nd and have been gradually continuing to reduce. The peak for this year was 28,379 on April 1st.


    Currently, there are only two types of COVID-19 zones in use, “Tourism Sandboxes” or “Blue” zones and “High Surveillance” or “Yellow” zones. The proposed rezoning would place some provinces in middle “Green” or “Surveillance” zones, which typically involve fewer COVID-19 restrictions than the “Yellow” zones.


    Blue Zone provinces are provinces or districts which have reached at least 70% mass vaccination and are ready to accept overseas tourists.


    According to Public Health Permanent Secretary Dr. Kiattibhoom Vonrachit, alert Level 2 means the public can engage in almost all activities, except vulnerable people and those who are not fully vaccinated. On May 9th, the level was lowered from 4 to 3. Level 5 is the highest and could involve curfews.


    The unvaccinated are advised to avoid entertainment venues, crowded places and enclosed venues without air circulation. Members of the vulnerable groups, who are not fully vaccinated, are also advised to avoid inter-provincial public transport and overseas travel.

    https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thailan...ons-on-friday/

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    Here we go again with the masks.


    Top Biden health officials sound warning on rising covid infections


    Top Biden administration officials warned Wednesday that one-third of Americans live in communities experiencing rising levels of coronavirus cases and hospitalizations and urged them to resume taking personal protection measures, including wearing masks.


    The increase in new infections — nearing 100,000 a day — comes as the nation heads into Memorial Day weekend with its large gatherings and travel. That case count is almost certainly an undercount, officials said, given the widespread use of at-home tests for which results are often not reported to health officials.


    Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, strongly encouraged those living in communities designated yellow or orange, indicating they have large numbers of new infections and hospitalizations, to consider wearing masks in indoor public spaces and taking other steps to protect themselves.

    “As we’re currently seeing a steady rise of cases in parts of the country, we encourage everyone to use the menu of tools we have today to prevent further infection and severe disease, including wearing a mask, getting tested, accessing treatments early if infected and getting vaccinated or boosted,” she said.

    MORE https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...cials-warning/

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    But they're mostly trumpanzees so it would be OK to let them die. It's nature's way.

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    So no ThailandPass for Thais from June 1st, but those "dirty farangs"....

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    ^‘Thailand Pass’ registration eased for international arrivals from 1 June 2022

    Bangkok, 20 May, 2022 – Thailand’s Centre of COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) today approved the simplified Thailand Pass registration and entry rules for international arrivals, effective 1 June 2022.

    Foreign nationals are still required to apply for a Thailand Pass [via Thailand Pass Registration System (for air travel only)], but will only need to provide passport details, vaccination, and an US$10,000 health insurance policy. The system will then automatically issue a Thailand Pass QR code for the applicants. Meanwhile, Thais will no longer be required to apply for a Thailand Pass.
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    Mr. "Dirty Farang" suggests it might be another month.


    Govt mulls ending Thai Pass

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    Does anybody really care about ol' Co-Vo on a personal level any more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    Does anybody really care about ol' Co-Vo on a personal level any more?
    The usual circles will cast anything COVID with politically mixed non sequiturs as they will with most everything else.
    Moot.
    Pathetic.

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    ^FO Jeff

    When people from all over the world were dying due to Covid

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    Anyone had a 4th jab yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    Anyone had a 4th jab yet?

    I probably would have had in January or February but right now I don't think it's a threat any more.

    Numbers have been in terminal and steep decline since the beginning of April and I think it's run out of people to infect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    Does anybody really care about ol' Co-Vo on a personal level any more?
    I do. I have it now and it is no fun at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    Anyone had a 4th jab yet?
    I had the fourth jab a few weeks ago. I had AZ then AZ courtesy of the Thai government. At that time, boosters were not public policy so I booked a private Moderna. Then the small local clinic got some Pfizer and I went along. Weeks later the private hospital got deliveries of Moderna, for which I had already paid, so I took that too. The gf too.

    I confidently expected to have very mild symptoms when the Covid found me. I was wrong. I have no pre-existing health conditions except my age while the gf is younger and in good health. I am sure we'll both get through it, meanwhile we have both been laid low and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

    A Thai friend's father just died with Covid. It's real.

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    I've also had a 4th jab and I also care not to get Covid at all.

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    Wife and I had the 4th Jab in the US. Moderna. I wasn't really thinking about it much but wife wanted to get it so I thought why not.

    It was really nice being in the states with a level of normalcy and no masks. Coming back here though is really tough. I forget my ask a lot already and people stare at me. I think " Get over it already will ya"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpy View Post
    " Get over it already will ya"
    That would be nice, I wonder if we ever will. I have a flu jab most years and I cannot remember the last time I had flu. I have had 4 Covid jabs and at the moment I feel grim.
    Part of the issue here, I suspect, is that we have been masked and ducking Covid for 2 years already in remote Isaan, of course everyone got a bit tired of the process and it is only recently that Covid arrived locally in meaningful numbers. There were previously only odd cases, typically Bangkok returnees, maybe people were getting a bit casual about it.
    I can see us getting yearly Covid jabs in years ahead. Based on my personal experience, those jabs need to be a lot more effective than the 4 I had.
    This is why I still see China as a Covid problem in waiting. I hid for 2 years and had the top jabs and the best I can say is that so far I think we'll avoid hospital. China can lock down cities as long as it likes, people will just get Covid weary and then the Covid will still be waiting for them.

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    The WHO estimate that the excess death rate during the pandemic period was 13% higher than normal - meaning the actual Covid death toll could be as high as 15 million. Of course there are other factors, such as limited access to normal healthcare, etc.

    The Real Death Toll - The New York Times
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    The Department of Disease Control (DDC) has stopped reporting Covid-19 infections using rapid antigen test kits (ATK) and plans to report only cases that require hospitalisation.
    Dr Sumanee Wacharasint, assistant spokeswoman for the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA), said the change is being proposed to reflect the current situation where most Covid-19 patients have no or mild symptoms and choose home treatment.
    She discussed the proposed change to the way Covid-19 infections will be reported after positive Covid-19 cases using ATKs were dropped from the DDC's dashboard.
    Dr Sumanee insisted the revised reporting will not affect the Public Health Ministry's monitoring of Covid-19, adding the DDC wants to focus on patients who require hospitalisation.

    DDC drops reports of ATK-positive cases

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