The COVID-2019 Thread

[panama hat]

I did, but it didn't address the point I was trying to make.

You don't understand this?

[Buckaroo Banzai]

It's confusing as to why Omicron should be the end of covid-19 . . . Delta is not dependent on micron and is still killing thousands

There is an evolutionary advantage to not kill or make seriously ill the host that transmits you.
Obviously a dead host is no longer transmitting, and a seriously ill host is not as mobile so his transmission rate is reduced;
Of course this is an oversimplification , but that's part of the theory of how a less virulent strain replaces a more virulent one.

[malmomike77]

There is an evolutionary advantage to not kill or make seriously ill the host that transmits you

thank goodness you didn't use the phrase "doesn't want to kill"

[harrybarracuda]

I did, but it didn't address the point I was trying to make.

Ah I see. Well there is some evidence that Omicron provides immunity against Delta, but short of exposing Omicron-infected people to Delta en masse, it would be difficult to accurately define it.

In a lab environment, they have data to show that it does provide a level of immunity against Delta, but they are small scale studies and not yet peer reviewed.

[Buckaroo Banzai]

thank goodness you didn't use the phrase "doesn't want to kill"

all it wants to do is reproduce,
and it has a better chance of reproducing if it does not kill.
except for the occasional rebel in search for brains , for the most part dead hosts tend to just lay around and decompose. not a successful strategy for reaching the widest audience IMO.

[HermantheGerman]

It's confusing as to why Omicron should be the end of covid-19 . . . Delta is not dependent on micron and is still killing thousands

It ain't over 'til its over

The virologist Christian Drosten fears that a more ill-causing corona variant could arise. "For example, one could imagine that a recombination would happen," he said in an interview with Deutschlandfunk. It is therefore possible that genomes of the variants omicron and delta come together. Such a so-called recombinant virus line could, for example, carry the spike protein from the omicron virus "in order to continue to enjoy this immune advantage, but have the rest of the genome from the delta virus". Thus, “the strongest properties would then come together from both serotypes”.

Omikron und Delta: Christian Drosten befurchtet Rekombination


Don't get me wrong! I'd rather be drinking Corona this summer then getting it.

[panama hat]

Ah

There

It

Thanks, gents.

[harrybarracuda]

So the UK is genuinely "letting it rip" - if you're vaccinated.

Coronavirus testing for double-vaccinated travellers arriving in the UK will be scrapped from 4am on 11 February.
In a boost for travel firms and families planning trips abroad, eligible passengers will no longer have to take a post-arrival lateral flow test (LFT). The change will save families about £100 a trip. The industry body Airlines UK said it was a “landmark day”.
The transport secretary, Grant Shapps, said: “That means that after months of pre-departure testing, post-arrival testing, self-isolation, additional expense, all that fully vaccinated people will now have to do, when they travel to the UK, is to verify their status via a passenger locator form.”

UK scraps Covid testing after arrival for double-vaccinated travellers | Coronavirus | The Guardian

[happynz]

PSA from Captain Obvious: (that would be me)

Maybe from London to Inverness not a problem. However, travellers will have to navigate through the requirements of the countries outside the UK that they are travelling to. So, stay patient folks.

[harrybarracuda]

PSA from Captain Obvious: (that would be me)

Maybe from London to Inverness not a problem. However, travellers will have to navigate through the requirements of the countries outside the UK that they are travelling to. So, stay patient folks.

I don't really understand what this is about.

My post was talking about INTERNATIONAL ARRIVALS.

This includes arrivals from Thailand.

Changes to international travel rules from 11 February 2022

If you arrive in England after 4am, 11 February, the following rules will apply.
Fully vaccinated – from 11 February

If you qualify as fully vaccinated for travel to England, you:

• will not need to take a COVID-19 test before you travel to England or after you arrive
• will not need to quarantine when you arrive

[happynz]

Oh, arrivals TO the UK. Got it.

[misskit]

Australia marks two years since first COVID case with another high death count


Australia on Tuesday recorded one of its highest number of deaths in a day from COVID-19 as an outbreak of the highly-infections Omicron variant tore through the country which marked two years since its first infection of the coronavirus.


Though Australia's states and territories are refraining from a return to the lockdowns which have defined the country's pandemic response, the most populous state, New South Wales, extended a mask mandate by a month, an example of the continuous disruption brought by the virus.


The same state, which came out of more than three months of hard lockdown in October, had vowed never to return to social distancing measures since its population had met a target of more than 90% vaccinated. Omicron has since seen the country's COVID-19 death and infection rates double in weeks.


The country recorded 75 deaths the previous day, short of its highest daily total of 80 the week before but among its worst of the pandemic. Most of the deaths were in NSW and neighbouring Victoria, home to the cities of Sydney and Melbourne and two-thirds of the Australian population.


Still, the authorities said the Omicron flare-up appeared to have peaked. Daily case numbers were up on the previous day, but hospitalisations appear to have steadied as more Australians receive their booster, they said.


The state of South Australia recorded five deaths but its lowest number of daily infections since the start of the year and "we're absolutely delighted with that figure", premier Steven Marshall told reporters.


"We are tracking extraordinarily well."


About two dozen COVID-19 cases were meanwhile recorded on an Australian warship headed for coronavirus-free Tonga, which was hit by a massive volcanic eruption and tsunami on Jan. 15. The authorities said the ship would continue with its mission safely.

Australia marks two years since first COVID case with another high death count | Taiwan News | 2022-01-25 19:03:00

[harrybarracuda]

Man Can’t Get Heart Transplant Because He’s Not Vaccinated Against COVID

Family says "It's his body, it's his choice".

Cool, so he's choosing to die because he's gullible enough to think the vaccine will kill him.



Man Can’t Get Heart Transplant Because He’s Not Vaccinated Against COVID – CBS Boston

[harrybarracuda]

Sir Elton John has the Covid.

Sir Elton John postpones US shows after positive Covid-19 test - BBC News

[harrybarracuda]

Two-thirds of people recently infected with the Omicron variant say they had already had Covid previously.


The findings come from a large, continuing study, React, swab-testing thousands of volunteers in England.


More work is needed to know how many are true reinfections - but the results reveal the groups that appear to be more likely to catch Covid again.

Two-thirds with Omicron say they have had Covid before - BBC News

[harrybarracuda]

Data from people infected with SARS-CoV-2 early in the pandemic add to growing evidence suggesting that vaccination can help to reduce the risk of Long COVID.
Researchers in Israel report that people who have had both SARS-CoV-2 infection and doses of Pfizer–BioNTech vaccine were much less likely to report any of a range of common long-COVID symptoms than were people who were unvaccinated when infected. In fact, vaccinated people were no more likely to report symptoms than people who’d never caught SARS-CoV-2. The study has not yet been peer reviewed.
“Here is another reason to get vaccinated, if you needed one,” says co-author Michael Edelstein, an epidemiologist at Bar-Ilan University in Safed, Israel.

Long-COVID symptoms less likely in vaccinated people, Israeli data say

[harrybarracuda]

United Nations/Geneva, Jan 26 (PTI) Over 21 million new coronavirus cases were reported around the world last week, representing the highest number of weekly cases recorded since the beginning of the pandemic, according to the World Health Organisation.

Over 21 Million New COVID-19 Cases Reported Globally Last Week, Highest Number Of Weekly Cases: WHO

[harrybarracuda]

In the US, the death toll from Covid is expected to be 20% higher than the reported total according to this calculation.

Claims that COVID death figures are inflated by counting those who died ‘with, not from’ the virus are premised on false assertions – Poynter

[harrybarracuda]

Aspirin is 200 times more dangerous than a Covid vaccine.

Here's the risk of adverse effects of Aspirin:

pancreatitis, hematemesis, papillary necrosis, renal failure, aplastic anemia, thrombocytopenia, disseminated intravascular coagulation, Steven-Johnson syndrome, erythema nodosum, hepatitis, Reye’s syndrome, hepatic insufficiency, metabolic acidosis, , hypoglycemia, hyperglycemia, cerebral edema, coma, intracranial hemorrhage, seizures, hearing loss, rhabdomyolysis, pulmonary edema, asthma and... the list goes on.

Makes you laugh when you see these antivaxxers banging on about how "dangerous" the vaccines are!

https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/artic...taking-aspirin

[misskit]

Omicron Deaths in U.S. Exceed Delta’s Peak as Covid-19 Optimism Rises in Europe

More signs emerged that the Omicron wave is taking a less serious human toll in Europe than earlier phases of the pandemic, while U.S. data showed daily average deaths from the disease exceeding the peak reached during the surge driven by the previously dominant Delta variant.


In Western Europe, where vaccination rates are generally higher than the U.S., a record surge in cases hasn’t generated the proportionate increase in hospitalizations and deaths that were seen earlier in the pandemic.


Even as Covid-19 cases hit record highs, the Netherlands eased restrictions imposed last month in the face of Omicron—as Covid-19 hospitalizations and deaths remained subdued. Bars, restaurants, cinemas and theaters can reopen from Wednesday, with some continuing restrictions including that they close by 11 p.m.


The government, which has been the target of protests over its lockdown decisions, said the decision wasn’t without risk. It is following others in Europe such as the U.K., Ireland and France that have lifted or eased Covid restrictions.

Germany recorded a record 164,000 new cases in 24 hours on Wednesday, an increase of 46% compared with last week and bringing the seven-day daily average to more than 120,000 cases. Coronavirus-related mortality is however declining: on Wednesday, 166 deaths were reported in connection with Covid-19, a drop of 31% compared with last week and the lowest since November.

Record numbers of cases are being recorded elsewhere. Portugal is recording about 50,000 new cases a day on average, four times more than a year ago. But deaths have remained relatively low, a sign that mass vaccinations are working. Portugal is recording around 40 deaths a day, compared with the pandemic high of 290 a year ago, according to Our World In Data. Portugal has one of the world’s highest vaccination rates, with over 90% of the population fully immunized.

Confirmed new Covid-19 infections in Italy, Spain and Greece are declining from the pandemic records hit earlier this month. The pressure on healthcare systems is also easing, with hospital admissions beginning to decrease in all three countries, a sign that the worst of the current wave of infections may be over.


Deaths, a lagging indicator, are still high, with 468 deaths recorded on Tuesday in Italy alone, the highest since April 2021.


In the U.S., the seven-day average for newly reported Covid-19 deaths reached 2,258 a day on Tuesday, up about 1,000 from daily death counts two months ago, data from Johns Hopkins University show. That is the highest since February 2021 as the country was emerging from the worst of last winter’s wave.

While there is a large body of evidence suggesting that Omicron is less likely to kill the people it infects, it spreads much more quickly and therefore infects many more people than earlier variants, epidemiologists say. Case counts in the U.S. have dwarfed previous records.


In a positive sign, Covid-19 related hospitalizations are heading lower shortly after reaching the highest-recorded levels. Federal data also indicate Covid-19 deaths in hospitals have started to decline from a recent Omicron peak. The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says roughly seven of every 10 Covid-19 deaths occur in hospitals or other inpatient settings.


Some parts of the country, including major coastal states like New York and California, are also recovering. A Wall Street Journal analysis shows 20 states representing 55% of the population have case averages down at least 20% from recent peaks.


At the same time, as Omicron fades in populous, coastal areas, it hasn’t yet peaked in less-vaccinated regions that could see a higher death rate, epidemiologists said, meaning deaths may climb yet further as they continue tracking the recent rise in cases.

Omicron Deaths in U.S. Exceed Delta’s Peak as Covid-19 Optimism Rises in Europe - WSJ

[HermantheGerman]

Man Can’t Get Heart Transplant Because He’s Not Vaccinated Against COVID

Family says "It's his body, it's his choice".

Cool, so he's choosing to die because he's gullible enough to think the vaccine will kill him.



Man Can’t Get Heart Transplant Because He’s Not Vaccinated Against COVID – CBS Boston

Would be interesting to know if the transplanted heart he would have received has a Moderna or Pfizer stamp on it...if you know what I mean

[HermantheGerman]

Sir Elton John has the Covid.

Sir Elton John postpones US shows after positive Covid-19 test - BBC News

Good ole Elton better slow down with his "Farewell" Yellow Brick Road plans.

[HermantheGerman]

Aspirin is 200 times more dangerous than a Covid vaccine.

Jeezus, I never knew I risked my Life so many times for you guys.

[malmomike77]

^ I didn't know Aspirin caused blood clots

[harrybarracuda]

^ I didn't know Aspirin caused blood clots

Neither do the Antivaxx twats.

I do know Covid causes pulmonary oedema though. It's what kills people.

The point is these are extremely rare side effects, but the antivaxx wankers make it sound like most people get them.