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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Hardly.

    "On June 2, 2021, China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs stated that China has provided “more than 350 million doses of vaccines to the international community, including vaccine assistance to over 80 countries and vaccine exports to more than 40 countries.”"
    Yes but no-one wants the chinky shit Hoohoo.

    This is Pfizer. A proper vaccine.

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    Canada getting some more decent vaccines too.

    Public Services and Procurement Minister Anita Anand said today that Moderna will ship seven million more vaccine doses to Canada this month, ending weeks of uncertainty over when the Massachusetts-based company would deliver the long-promised order.
    Unlike Pfizer, which has been delivering vaccines to Canada at a steady pace since March, Moderna's deliveries have been more erratic as the company has grappled with production issues at its plants in Europe.
    Moderna has routinely slashed deliveries or punted them to later dates, upending plans to set up vaccine clinics and slowing down the immunization campaign. Starting next week, Anand said, the deliveries will start to stabilize.
    The first batch of those seven million confirmed doses will start to arrive in Canada the week of June 14, she said. "We will be in a position to provide more specifics concerning specific shipment dates and quantities next week," Anand said.
    After weeks of uncertainty, Moderna says 7 million vaccine doses will arrive this month | CBC News

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    This is Pfizer. A proper vaccine.
    The source where from I got the links to the UK govt reports (showing in thread of Moderna):
    https://assets.publishing.service.go...26.05.2021.pdf

    https://assets.publishing.service.go...26.05.2021.pdf

    says - after summarising the reports above:
    Up to 28th May in the UK there have now been 1,227 deaths of those vaccinated. With 40m having been given at least one vaccine (up to that date) – that is one death in every 32,000 vaccinated individuals which means that for anyone under 50 the chances of dying from the vaccine are worse than dying from catching COVID itself.

    For the over a thousand vaccinated people who developed COVID after the vaccine the death rates (for the Pfizer 6.5% and for the Astra Zenecca 6.83%) were more than twice the level of deaths from COVID generally (2.8%)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    The Chinese vaccines don't work
    The numbers suggest otherwise.

    Deaths/million of Chinese citizens has been o.oo% since May 2020, 1 year.

    Coronavirus (COVID-19) Deaths - Statistics and Research - Our World in Data

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    to be reed with other vaccines that actually work.
    Depending on any new variants, I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    China's COVID-19 vaccines don't appear to be effective
    See above.

    Other countries may vary, Rate/date of new infects, rate/date of vaccinations, lockdowns, social distancing, masking up ....

    An example:

    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    family gatherings — we had Ramadan
    Last edited by OhOh; 10-06-2021 at 04:02 PM.
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Cancer patients are up to 70% more likely to die of COVID-19 than people who have recovered from cancer, study says

    CONCLUSIONS
    The authors found that patients with an active cancer diagnosis were more likely to die from COVID-19. Those with hematologic malignancies were at the highest risk of death. Patients receiving cancer-directed therapy within 3 months before hospitalization had no overall increased risk of death.

    LAY SUMMARY
    Our investigators found that hospitalized patients with active cancer were more likely to die from coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) than those with a history of cancer and those without any cancer history.
    Patients with hematologic cancers were the most likely among patients with cancer to die from COVID-19.
    Patients who received cancer therapy within 3 months before hospitalization did not have an increased risk of death.
    https://acsjournals.onlinelibrary.wi...002/cncr.33657

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    with one intelligence agency leaning towards the theory that it escaped from a Wuhan laboratory.
    One suspects another "intelligence agency" may suspect other origins.

    It might be useful to investigate the so far "uninspected" but suspected origins first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    The numbers suggest otherwise.
    No they don't. They just suggest that the virus is not present in China.

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    See above.
    No thanks, your bogus numbers do not mean shit. I will take these accounts with more crediblity.

    "In the Seychelles, Chile, and Uruguay, all of whom have used Sinopharm or ... Sinovac in their mass vaccination efforts, cases have surged even as doses were given out," The Washington Post reports. And in Bahrain, one of the first countries to embrace the Sinopharm shot, The Wall Street Journal adds, "daily COVID-19 deaths have leapt to 12 per million people in recent weeks — an outbreak nearly five times more lethal than India's — prompting the island nation's government to shut down shopping malls and restaurants in an effort to limit the spread."

    Dr. Waleed Khalifa al Manea, Bahrain's undersecretary of health, told the Journal that the recent upsurge in cases "came mainly from family gatherings — we had Ramadan, which is a very social event in Bahrain," but he also said the country is urging older people and those with chronic illness to get a six-month booster shot with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. Bahrain and the neighboring United Arab Emirates started offering booster shots in late May "after studies showed that some of those vaccinated had not developed sufficient antibodies," the Post reports.

    "In Dubai, the most populous of the seven members of the UAE, the emirate's health authorities have also quietly begun revaccinating with Pfizer-BioNTech those residents who had been fully inoculated with Sinopharm," the Journal reports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    The Chinese vaccines don't work, and those people will have to be revaccinated with other vaccines that actually work.
    Yeah, and as your quote points out, they are already doing this in the UAE.

    Quietly because, well, y'know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Quietly because, well, y'know...
    Indeed, I do. Chinese vaccines don't work.

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    There is troubling news for those infected with the COVID-19 virus. New studies have found that the virus may cause diabetes in addition to pneumonia and other health problems.
    Most people will recover from COVID without longer-term problems, but doctors have noticed that some patients go on to develop diabetes.
    Now, new research is finding that the virus may infect and destroy certain cells that are crucial for keeping diabetes at bay. Armed with this new knowledge, scientists are now racing to understand how to best prevent this from happening in patients with COVID-19.

    The COVID-19 virus can cause diabetes, new studies find - ABC News

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    The Punjab government on Thursday decided to block the SIM cards of people refusing to get vaccinated against the coronavirus, an official said.
    The step was among several decisions taken by the provincial government to control the spread of Covid-19 and speed up the vaccination process, including opening walk-in vaccination for all adults from June 12.
    "Final decision has been taken to block the mobile SIM cards of people not getting vaccinated," Punjab Specialised Healthcare Department spokesman Syed Hammad Raza said.
    A high-level meeting chaired by Punjab Health Minister Dr Yasmin Rashid also decided to set up mobile vaccination camps outside major shrines in the province, and fully open businesses in all districts where at least 20 per cent of the population has been vaccinated.
    Vaccinated people will be allowed to go to cinema halls and restaurants and marriage halls will be opened. People suffering from terminal illnesses like HIV/AIDS and cancer will now be vaccinated on priority, according to the spokesperson.

    Punjab govt decides to block SIM cards of people refusing vaccines - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

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    Social Security jab stations closed for two weeks in Bangkok


    All 45 Bangkok vaccination stations for social security recipients were temporarily closed on Friday, though the government insists this was not due to a shortage of vaccine.


    The jab stations will reopen on June 28 after measures are implemented to improve efficiency of services, authorities said.


    A total of 174,193 people had received jabs at the 45 stations from June 7-10, according to Social Security Office (SSO) spokesperson Nantachai Panyasurari. However, that figure fell short of the target of 200,000 people or 50,000 per day.


    He blamed the shortfall on unsuitable conditions and incomplete information.


    For instance, some people were rejected by vaccination staff because their body temperature or blood pressure was high due to hot weather, or their information submitted by organisations was missing, said Nantachai.


    "Hence, we decided to improve services at all vaccination stations in a bid to ensure maximum efficiency," he added.

    Social Security jab stations closed for two weeks in Bangkok

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    Taiwan says Thailand prioritising AstraZeneca shots for itself



    Mass COVID-19 vaccination rollout starts in Bangkok

    Fri, June 11, 2021, 1:23 PM

    TAIPEI (Reuters) -Thailand is prioritising for itself AstraZeneca Plc's COVID-19 vaccines produced in the southeast Asian nation because of the severity of the pandemic there, thus delaying deliveries to Taiwan, President Tsai Ing-wen said on Friday.

    The island is battling a spike in domestic infections and just 3% of its 23.5 million people have received at least one vaccine dose, with millions of shots on order but yet to arrive.

    "The problem is that the goods that were supposed to have arrived in June have not," Tsai told a Taiwan radio station.
    Taiwan has ordered 10 million doses from AstraZeneca, which is mainly producing them in Thailand, she added.

    "Now Thailand's epidemic situation is serious and they are giving priority for vaccines to be used in Thailand."

    Thailand has reported 189,828 infections, with more than 80% of the new figures recorded since April.

    Neither AstraZeneca nor Thai government officials immediately responded to requests for comment.

    On Tuesday, Taiwan's Health Minister Chen Shih-chung had told lawmakers that production problems at AstraZeneca's Thai plant would delay supplies by a month.
    Taiwan received 1.24 million AstraZeneca doses donated by Japan last week, and the United States has pledged 750,000 shots, but there are no details of the latter.
    Tsai said the government had been having "emergency" talks with the United States and Japan to see what other vaccines they might be able to provide.
    Tsai has come under pressure to do more to speed up vaccine deliveries, and speaking later on Tuesday expressed apologies for the infections and deaths.

    "The government team will definitely make every effort to control the epidemic," she said in a broadcast from her office.
    Chen told parliament that government-run research centre Academia Sinica had made good progress on mRNA technology and had contacted Moderna Inc about working with it on vaccines.

    Moderna did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    Taiwan has received just 150,000 Moderna doses of more than 5 million on order.

    (Reporting by Yimou Lee and Ben Blanchard; Additional reporting by Chayut Setboonsarng in Bangkok;Editing by Lincoln Feast and Clarence Fernandez)
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    The lesson from all this seems to be that any self respecting country that doesn't now start developing their own vaccine capacity is going to be considered idiotic.

    There doesn't seem to be anything approaching an 'iron-clad' guarantee in this day and age.

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    And ta da..............

    The Mounties Ride To The Rescue

    OTTAWA -- Canada is planning to contribute up to 100 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines to developing countries, including both actual doses and through previously-announced funding to the COVAX global vaccine-sharing initiative. The sharing of doses will happen once Canada’s domestic vaccine rollout is complete, with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau set to unveil more details during the G7 Summit in the U.K, according to a government source.High Commissioner for Canada in the U.K. Ralph Goodale later confirmed Canada’s commitment would include both actual doses and cash donations.
    “More will be required and more will be forthcoming,” Goodale said, restating that there will be “no negative impact on the vaccination plan for Canadians.”
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    The donation comes as part of an overall G7 goal of having leaders agree to give access to up to one billion doses of COVID-19 vaccines to low- and middle-income countries, after wealthy nations have been accused of vaccine-hoarding while others struggle to access supply.
    The confirmation comes after Trudeau was the only leader among his G7 peers who had yet to outline what his country’s contribution would be.


    The prime minister has on several occasions spoken about how Canada’s position is that until COVID-19 is controlled everywhere, the pandemic won’t truly be over anywhere, given the risks of new variants and outbreaks.


    Canada has come under fire for tapping into the COVAX supply to access AstraZeneca vaccines, though the government has taken the position that Canada was using the program as designed, and noted it’s one of the leading donors to the effort.


    Canada has spent $440 million towards the COVAX initiative, half of which was intended for Canada to be able to secure up to 15 million doses for use in this country, and the other $220 million to go towards lower-income nations’ purchases of vaccines. The day before the G7 summit, the U.K. promised to send at least 100 million doses within the next year, and U.S. President Joe Biden pledged he would send away another half billion. France and Germany have promised at least 30 million doses this year. Japan has also committed to 30 million doses while Italy has promised 15 million.
    The G7 summit taking place in Cornwall, U.K. kicked off Friday, with events throughout the weekend. It’s Trudeau’s first international trip since the start of the pandemic.

    Canada to share up to 100M COVID-19 vaccine doses with developing nations | CTV News
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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    There doesn't seem to be anything approaching an 'iron-clad' guarantee in this day and age.
    Insightful observation.

    Was there ever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Insightful observation.

    Was there ever?
    And it was not uncommon when I was growing up for a handshake was plenty enough to seal a deal.

    All things are relative of course and I am generally referring to a class of people that you would probably never have been associated with so your inability to understand even the general concept is quite understandable. Better luck in your next lifetime buddy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    And it was not uncommon when I was growing up for a handshake was plenty enough to seal a deal.

    All things are relative of course and I am generally referring to a class of people that you would probably never have been associated with so your inability to understand even the general concept is quite understandable. Better luck in your next lifetime buddy.

    Our resident bore thinks he is upper class.

    How quaint.

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    The Phuket sandbox tourism scheme faces a chaotic approval process as the government is still struggling to fine-tune the balance between public health and the economy.

    Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha reasserted that the reopening plan for the island, known as the Phuket sandbox, will start on July 1 after it was approved in principle by the Centre for Economic Situation Administration (CESA) on June 4.

    However, it still requires confirmation from the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA), which scheduled a meeting on June 18, before submission to the cabinet for final approval on June 22.


    Yuthasak Supasorn, Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) governor, said the last step is publication in the Royal Gazette, which should be announced in the final week of June to meet the scheme timeline.

    The CCSA and CESA were established to tackle urgent tasks concerning the spread of Covid-19 and the economic impact in the country.

    This agenda has already been discussed on several occasions, including in meetings with subcommittees of CCSA and the Department of Disease Control.


    Following those discussions, the entry procedures saw a major revamp in recent weeks, such as the extension of the mandatory stay in Phuket from 7 days to 14 days, as well as the requirement for three Covid swab tests.


    Surapong Techaruvichit, managing director at Asia Hotel Group, said the international market might gradually pick up to 30-40% of 2019 levels by the middle of next year, but a total recovery remains far off as long as the government tries to find the right balance between health and the economy.


    "We have to operate the sandbox as if we are starting from zero. Some provinces trying to reopen may find local tourists shy away from their destinations," he said.


    "It might take some time to build up tourism confidence."


    Regarding the CCSA decision to end state quarantine (SQ) facilities for Thai returnees from July, Mr Surapong said not many SQ hotels remain as occupancy plunged following the third wave.


    Some SQ hotels, like the Asia Hotel Pattaya, have transformed into "hospitels", which are projected to receive fewer guests in the coming months if the vaccine rollout continues to administer more than 200,000 doses per day, as happened this week.


    "Even though we joined both the SQ and hospitel programmes in the past year, most properties could not post a profit. It just reduced the cash burn rate per month," he said.


    "The best we can hope for now is domestic tourists returning in October."


    Mr Yuthasak said the TAT acknowledges there is growing concern and discontent among the private sector about the additional measures for tourist destinations to reopen, which could discourage visitors in the initial stages.


    He insisted the tighter screening measures are necessary, as the Public Health Ministry stressed no tourist should be infected while roaming the island.


    "We should accept an influx of tourists is unlikely in the third quarter. This sandbox scheme was established as a test run, which means it is a gradual process where we determine the best practices to allow other destinations to follow suit," said Mr Yuthasak.


    "It is better to be selective in the beginning rather than risk losing our reputation if tourists acquire the virus while here or at their origin country."


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    The Public Health Ministry is baulking at Pattaya's plans to allow vaccinated foreign holidaymakers to return in the fourth quarter of the year without the need to quarantine.

    The seaside town recently proposed what officials dubbed "Pattaya, Move on", a plan to welcome back tourists in the peak season after giving Covid-19 vaccinations to more than two-thirds of residents and hospitality workers.

    The scheme would allow fully vaccinated foreign tourists to enter Pattaya without the need to quarantine for 14 days, even though they would have to remain in Bang Lamung and Sattahip districts for seven days before being allowed to travel elsewhere.


    However, Thanes Supornsahasrungsri, acting president of the Chon Buri Tourism Council, said on Friday the ministry had voiced concerns about the idea.


    Unlike the resort island of Phuket, Pattaya is more of an open town and health officials feared it would be difficult to regulate the movement of tourists, Mr Thanes admitted.

    He said Pattaya still hoped to prepare for a full reopening by facilitating a "soft reopening" during August and September with the "sealed route" restriction.

    This would require even fully vaccinated foreign tourists to stay at their hotels for three to five days after which they could travel to pre-approved places which have a Safety & Health Administration (SHA) hygienic standards certification.


    The tourist chief said that measure should help to ease the health authorities' concerns ahead of the hoped-for reopening in October and was optimistic Pattaya would get more vaccine doses to cover at least 70% of local residents as soon as it had a clear timeline for its reopening.


    About 900,000 vaccine doses are needed to inoculate 450,000 people, or 70% of its population, he noted.


    Roadblock for Pattaya's reopening plan

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    In the coming months, showing proof of vaccination against COVID-19 will become commonplace before going into a bar, getting on a flight, or going back to school or the office. To deter people who are vaccine-averse and might be tempted to flash fake credentials, New York lawmakers passed a bill Thursday criminalizing the falsification of vaccine records under state law.

    “We want to make sure people go out and get vaccinated so we can hopefully reach herd immunity and put this [pandemic] behind us,” said State Senator Anna Kaplan (D.-Long Island), who introduced the bill in her chamber. “These vaccine cards really mean something, and we want to make sure we deter anyone who is thinking about putting fake cards out there.”

    Following early reports of people selling fake vaccine cards, the FBI issued a warning in late March pointing out that the unauthorized use of an official government seal is a federal crime. COVID-19 vaccine cards carry the seal of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. But there’s no such seal on the Excelsior Pass, the digital vaccine passport created by New York State. The bill now heads to Governor Andrew Cuomo’s desk for his signature.

    The state bill clarifies that falsifying a digital record of a COVID-19 vaccine constitutes computer tampering in the third degree, a class E felony that’s punishable by up to four years in prison. Make a fake paper card? That would be covered under the state’s forgery law, a class A misdemeanor. That crime could come with up to a year of jail time.

    Blank vaccine cards have popped up
    for sale on Amazon, Etsy, and the encrypted messaging service Telegram, among other websites. Amazon already banned these fake IDs, but some vendors are apparently falling through the cracks.


    In May, a 21-year-old CVS employee on Long Island, Zachary Honig,
    was arrested after he was found with a stack of 62 vaccine cards in his car. Eight were filled out with only the “name” section left out, while the others were blank. Honig reportedly told police he planned to share them with family members and friends.


    Honig was charged with several counts, including criminal possession of a “forged instrument.” The new bill would eliminate any doubt that a falsified COVID-19 card falls into that category.


    “We just wanted to make sure people understand that these CDC cards are really important and stress for everyone that it’s illegal to tamper with or make them,” Kaplan said.


    https://gothamist.com/news/fake-your...come-year-jail

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    With all the hullabaloo around the July 1 Phuket Sandbox reopening that will definitely maybe possibly probably not surely happen, newsreaders should be prepared for a month of flip-flopping, confusing, and contradicting stories. Today Siam Rath reported that Thailand’s Tourism Minister has commented that the reopening will not happen on July 1.

    At a meeting of tourism officials in Bangkok including the deputy governor of Surat Thani and representatives from Koh Samui, Koh Phangan, and Koh Tao, Thailand Tourism Minister Pipat Ratchakitprakan was quoted by Siam Rath as saying that Phuket is unlikely to be ready to reopen by the first of next month. He reportedly stated that reopening will happen on August 1 instead.

    Tourism Minister reportedly said July 1 'sandbox' won't happen | Thaiger

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    I thought America was the "home of the brave"?

    Scratch that. It's Canadians that are pussies.



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