The COVID-2019 Thread

[Troy]

And just in case you have yet to figure out how stupid you are, here are some real facts with regards to testing in relation to population:
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United Kingdom tested MORE than Sweden, not the other way around. Idiot.

<sigh> Date 02 May.

My post, only recently been overtaken...

Fuck off dickhead!

[Klondyke]

Just watching reportage of AJ about the measures in China, no Chinese propaganda, their own AJ reporters showing the life in the streets, the checking, barriers, etc.

This quite unbelievable and un-realizable, un-workable in other countries, whether highly developed or not.

Hence, the results speaking by themselves...

[Forethat]

<sigh> Date 02 May.

My post, only recently been overtaken...

Fuck off dickhead!

So I take it you've run out of arguments, then...?

[HuangLao]

Question discussed recently: Are the CPC behind closed doors rubbing their hands and congratulating each other on a remarkable job against their ideological enemy, or worried shitless and in disaster mode preparing for damage limitation? Any offers?

I say the former, that the weak and weakening west will blink first, with the usual volleys of noise, being distracted by trying to salvage what's left of its economy.

As for it ever being determined whether the virus was released by accident or design, we'll never know though accident is the politically expedient conclusion.

That's the heart of the problem. The CDC is an extension of the American political machine, instead of an independent objective health research facility.

[HuangLao]

Just watching reportage of AJ about the measures in China, no Chinese propaganda, their own AJ reporters showing the life in the streets, the checking, barriers, etc.

This quite unbelievable and un-realizable, un-workable in other countries, whether highly developed or not.

Hence, the results speaking by themselves...

I trust that the likes of Al-Jazeera [usually respected work] are acting on comparative stories to show that not all is exceptional and enlightened throughout particular Western cultures during these interesting and highly delusional political times.

[Troy]

So I take it you've run out of arguments, then...?

No, I simply can't be bothered with people who don't read posts, call people stupid and post irrelevant facts to suit their agenda.

I don't suffer fools like you and I have no need to right now.

[HuangLao]

No, I simply can't be bothered with people who don't read posts, call people stupid and post irrelevant facts to suit their agenda.

You're associated with the wrong place, fella.
These lovely ideals [and related] listed are commonplace.

You're just learning this after nine years?


Hmmmm.....

[Forethat]

No, I simply can't be bothered with people who don't read posts, call people stupid and post irrelevant facts to suit their agenda.

I don't suffer fools like you and I have no need to right now.

You're the one who hasn't posted any facts.

Come on now, dimwit, show us some facts. I've posted plenty of facts and so far you've posted....none. Show us how clever you really are, numbnuts. Facts.

Do you have any? No...

[Troy]

Go fish somewhere else you silly fuckwit.

[Forethat]

Seriously speaking, you have to be a complete moron to believe in the idea that Sweden is managing this pandemic in a good way.

Out of 188 countries monitored, Sweden ranks as #8 in terms of deaths per million citizens. They rank #1 in terms of deaths per million citizens/population density. There are plenty of countries with less population density than Sweden and they ALL rank higher in every category.

Get familiar with the facts before opening your traps. Just sayin'...

[Forethat]

Go fish somewhere else you silly fuckwit.

So no fact based arguments, just the normal balderdash?

Facts..? No...?

[Loy Toy]

Whether what Sweden is doing is right or wrong only time will tell.

I believe this method of this particular Covid Virus attack is called Herd immunity whereby they let nature takes its course with most of the population becoming infected with the disease and therefore developing antibodies.

Yes, a small percentage of the population will die but the vast majority will survive and become immune.

The main problem here is that not enough is known about whether a first stage infection can return as a second and more potent infection.

I look at this Swedish experiment as very interesting and I expect is being watched by most virologist globally with bated breath.

[Iceman123]

^
Their Covid 19 plan certainly has not buggered their economy.

[Loy Toy]

^
Their Covid 19 plan certainly has not buggered their economy.

I should have mentioned economists as well as virologists are watching this with bated breath as well.

[HuangLao]

Whether what Sweden is doing is right or wrong only time will tell.

I believe this method of this particular Covid Virus attack is called Herd immunity whereby they let nature takes its course with most of the population becoming infected with the disease and therefore developing antibodies.

Yes, a small percentage of the population will die but the vast majority will survive and become immune.

The main problem here is that not enough is known about whether a first stage infection can return as a second and more potent infection.

I look at this Swedish experiment as very interesting and I expect is being watched by most virologist globally with bated breath.

Sweden's forthright approach is quite different and interesting, to be sure.
As there's no standard.
Some have been moderately successful and others have failed miserably - who's to say what is what at this stage of the game.

The antibody-resistant-immunity theory model has not been scientifically proven as of yet regarding this particular pathogen, LT.
Many have been reinfected the world over.

I believe all the interested/concerned sectors are working on it diligently - without the silly and inane politics involved.
I've heard of up to 104 different researchers/institutions worldwide are examining the possibilities of what can stem the tide.

Some experts are suggesting that this bug might be with us for a couple more years. Or not.

[Troy]

As I said, Sweden was testing more in April than the UK, which has only recently overtaken them. Obviously taking snapshots of today will not show this and you need a graph that shows April. That may sound obvious but certain people need to have it explained in detail.

I am not saying Sweden methodology is the best one, it is simply an interesting one that is at least sustainable and does not require any transition from suppression to lesser restrictions with the possibility of a second and third wave.

[Forethat]

As I said, Sweden was testing more in April than the UK, which has only recently overtaken them. Obviously taking snapshots of today will not show this and you need a graph that shows April. That may sound obvious but certain people need to have it explained in detail.

I am not saying Sweden methodology is the best one, it is simply an interesting one that is at least sustainable and does not require any transition from suppression to lesser restrictions with the possibility of a second and third wave.

That's because you're an imbecill. Here is the official data collected by John Hopkins and published by WHO:
Coronavirus Update (Live): 3,427,258 Cases and 240,513 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

As of May 01, Sweden has conducted 119,500 tests. Out of a population of 10,230,000 that is a testing density of 0.011681329 per million citizens.
The UK has a population of 67,850,000 and has performed 1,023,824 tests as of May 1st. That is a testing density of 0.015089521 per million citizens.


Now, I'm going to ask you again: are you plain stupid, Basil Fawlty or Donald Trump?

[Troy]

Seriously speaking, you have to be a complete moron to believe in the idea that Sweden is managing this pandemic in a good way.

Out of 188 countries monitored, Sweden ranks as #8 in terms of deaths per million citizens. They rank #1 in terms of deaths per million citizens/population density. There are plenty of countries with less population density than Sweden and they ALL rank higher in every category.

Get familiar with the facts before opening your traps. Just sayin'...

You continue to repeat this without acknowledging that 80% of the population live in the southern third of the country. The main infection area is Stockholm and all deaths are included not just ones in hospital. You also fail to acknowledge that the hospitals are not overloaded and nearly 50% of deaths are from elderly care homes. Yes they have problems, but they are coping well without the need for a lockdown.

The UK, on the other hand, is in deep pooh...

[harrybarracuda]

I trust that the likes of Al-Jazeera [usually respected work] are acting on comparative stories to show that not all is exceptional and enlightened throughout particular Western cultures during these interesting and highly delusional political times.

Al Jazeera is Al Thani propaganda.

If they are saying nice things about the chinkies it's because they want them to buy their oil and gas.

[Dragonfly]

Really!? Provide a reference to a factual report or I'm calling bullshit.
You haven't got a freaking clue what you're talking about.

you are freaking mad, and obviously just an office clerk

[Dragonfly]

You're saying a lot but so far you haven't been able to back up anything, boy. Put some facts up here or shut your trap because opinions don't count, it just means you're the undisputed champion of Internet Einsteins (I guess this entire community already knows you are). Here are some facts, stupid:


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https://forumfiles.com/n5Dbo5v7oa/Screenshot_2020-05-02_at_12.22.28_png

You're Swedish (morally superior), correct!? Jeezus....

you keep looking at the wrong stats, these don't give you a full picture of what's going on, daily infection rates mean fuck all, don't need to be genius to get that, try Stats 101 maybe to get yourself an education

in the meantime, in the real world, number of infection keeps increasing daily in every country

of course we will know the real damage in 18months when we can collect everything

[Dragonfly]

You're the one who hasn't posted any facts.

Come on now, dimwit, show us some facts. I've posted plenty of facts and so far you've posted....none. Show us how clever you really are, numbnuts. Facts.

Do you have any? No...

are you a Trumptard? what facts? you posted some daily stats that don't mean anything except for office clerks or journalists,

the statisticians look at long term trends and overall infections CDF, daily rates are irrelevant

[harrybarracuda]

Get ready for your post-apocalyptic restaurant experience....

Restaurants covering more than 200 square metres must check employees and patrons for fever while smaller ones must do the best they can. Seating must be 1m to 1.5m apart and partitions must be installed, except when tables are at least 2m apart.


https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/1911600/bma-discusses-new-normal

[Dragonfly]

You continue to repeat this without acknowledging that 80% of the population live in the southern third of the country. The main infection area is Stockholm and all deaths are included not just ones in hospital. You also fail to acknowledge that the hospitals are not overloaded and nearly 50% of deaths are from elderly care homes. Yes they have problems, but they are coping well without the need for a lockdown.

The UK, on the other hand, is in deep pooh...

indeed, the UK like France, Spain and Italy couldn't handle the surge after years of neglect of their Public Health policies

COVID is not killing people, our political incompetence is

[Dragonfly]

As of May 01, Sweden has conducted 119,500 tests. Out of a population of 10,230,000 that is a testing density of 0.011681329 per million citizens.
The UK has a population of 67,850,000 and has performed 1,023,824 tests as of May 1st. That is a testing density of 0.015089521 per million citizens.

again, like a low level clerk, you are clawing to meaningless stats, the fucking tests don't mean anything for a lot of reasons:

1. They are unreliable (50% false positive)
2. They are only being used on people with symptoms or near symptoms, so that stats will be bias by default, because we don't have enough to test the whole population
3. They don't help fighting the spread since we would need to be tested every day to make sure we don't have it and have a real sense of who is infected or not

testing at this stage is only for the infected, not as a precaution, or a real measure of who is really infected. It's pointless.

now, you can go back to your desk and watch your porn