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    Oh dear, wave 2 coming...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    I bet the statistical difference between 78 and 61 year olds, and 58 and 41 year olds is quite noticeable, but they have them lumped in together.
    There is not a lot of data in the bar chart graph but turning it to a line graph shows clearly that chances mortality climbs significantly in the over 60s and start to flatten out at the over 80's. Not surprising given that the proportion of the population who are over 80 is probably much lower than it is for the other age bands.

    A graph adjusted to take account of the proportionate age of those who have died would almost certainly show that the over 65's and of course those with other underlying health issues of whatever age, should be isolated as much as possible and the remainder of the population who have no symptoms, should be sent back to work with a handbook on sensible precautions and basic hygiene.
    Blessed are the piss takers, for they shall inherit the mirth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Ah yes, too big to notice, I shall whip myself raw:

    Current total infected 1428428
    less dead 82020
    less recovered 300198

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    Currently Infected Patients
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    Easier to read and it's all properly sourced:

    Coronavirus Update (Live): 1,431,944 Cases and 82,084 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

    Interestingly, after screaming upwards, daily new numbers have stuttered a bit. Although there may be a pattern.

    The COVID-2019 Thread-cases-jpg

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    Thousands of people have been missed off the government's high risk list for Covid-19 despite meeting the criteria.
    Among them have been transplant patients, people with asthma and some with rare lung diseases.
    Many are worried it will affect their ability to access food and medical supplies as they shield from the virus, unable to leave their homes for at least 12 weeks.
    Supermarkets have been using the list to give priority to vulnerable customers, meaning those not included have already missed out on opportunities for which they would have been eligible.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-52123446

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    Cheeky fuckers!

    Airlines are again pleading for government assistance, only this time, they want a break from some federal regulations instead of financial aid.

    A global industry group warns that many of the world's airlines are running out of money and on the brink of financial collapse and therefore they cannot afford to give customers refunds for canceled flights.

    Regulations in the U.S., Europe and elsewhere require airlines to fully refund fares paid by customers when the airline cancels their flight.


    And since the coronovirus outbreak, airlines have been canceling thousands of flights a day as demand for air travel plummets.


    But instead of honoring their obligation to give refunds, many airlines have only been offering vouchers and credits for future travel, which customers often must use before the end of the year.


    Many airline passengers and consumer advocacy groups have filed complaints against the airlines for failing to follow the refund rules. A Minnesota man
    filed a lawsuit against United Airlines Monday over its refusal to provide him a refund, and last week, a class action lawsuit was filed in Canada against several airlines and travel companies over their refusals to give refunds.


    The head of the International Air Transport Association (IATA), the group representing air carriers around the world, says airlines are losing billions and burning through their cash reserves.

    "The key element for us is to avoid running out of cash so refunding the canceled ticket for us is almost unbearable financially speaking," IATA Director General Alexandre De Juniac said in an online news conference on Tuesday.


    The industry lobbying group is asking governments to relax their refund policies and allow airlines to offer travel credits and vouchers instead. But amid a rising number of consumer complaints, the U.S. Department of Transportation last week warned airlines they
    must provide refunds when they cancel flights.


    "The obligation of airlines to provide refunds, including the ticket price and any optional fee charged for services a passenger is unable to use, does not cease when the flight disruptions are outside of the carrier's control," the department said in a statement.


    It's important to note, though, that airlines are not obligated to provide refunds to people who cancel their own travel plans, which is a common situation many would be travelers find themselves in. Amid stay at home orders and travel warnings and restrictions, families who have canceled spring break trips and vacations before the airline cancels their flight find themselves forced to accept travel credits or vouchers that may expire before travel restrictions are lifted.


    But at least two airlines, Delta and United, have extended the time for customers to use travel vouchers through May of 2022, instead of the standard one year from the date of purchase.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/07/829091394/airlines-want-to-cancel-rule-requiring-them-to-refund-fares-for-canceled-flights?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=nprblogscorona virusliveupdates

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    The acting US Navy secretary who fired an aircraft carrier commander for raising concerns about coronavirus spreading through his crew then called him "stupid" and "naive" in a profanity-laced speech to those sailors has resigned, the latest scandal to rock the Trump administration.

    Donald Trump, the commander in chief, appeared to side with the ousted captain on Monday night, calling him a good man with stellar service record. Modly fired the commander of the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt, Captain Brett Crozier, after a letter he wrote about the virus infecting his crew leaked to the San Francisco Chronicle. As he left his ship, Mr Crovier's crew gave him a rousing send-off, prompting Mr Modly's appearence on Monday.

    The president on Monday declined to comment on Mr Modly "stupid" allegation, other than saying it was a "strong statement."

    But he told reporters he is hearing "good things about both men," and might have little choice but to get involved. It seems he let his feelings be known internally, and Mr Modly was gone less than 24 hours later.

    Thomas Modly came under fire from many sides after his handling of the matter, with top congressional Democrats calling for his resignation.

    "Sadly, Acting Secretary Modly's actions and words demonstrate his failure to prioritize the force protection of our troops," Speaker Nancy Pelosi said. "He showed a serious lack of the sound judgment and strong leadership needed during this time. Acting Secretary Modly must be removed from his position or resign."

    It was not long before he did just that, with the Trump White House deciding this was one fight with Democrats it did not want to start.

    The White House did not immediately name a permanent nominee, which would require Senate confirmation at a time when senators are back home, riding out the coronavirus pandemic. Mr Trump, who prefers "acting" secretaries, could opt to merely name another temporary top Navy civilian leader.

    Thomas Modly: Navy Secretary resigns after calling fired captain behind coronavirus letter 'stupid' and 'naive' | The Independent

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    Blaming China is reasonable – not racist: Goodwin


    Blaming China for coronavirus is reasonable – not racist: Goodwin


    The e-mail from a man named Jeffrey Frank Cohen was short and painful to read. Responding to my column urging Americans to set aside the blame game until we achieve victory over the coronavirus, Cohen wrote this: “Can I at least blame the Chicoms for this mess? It killed my brother-in-law, a friend of 43 years of age with 5 children, and put two of my kids out of work.”
    By all means, blame away. You are not alone.
    Cohen’s letter offers a reminder that the pandemic sweeping the globe could have been stopped at its source. Instead, the Chinese Communist Party suppressed the truth, destroyed evidence and lied to the world.
    It’s still lying, including about its own death totals. The official count in the country of 1.4 billion people is that just 3,322 died, but dissident groups and others within China say the actual fatalities are monstrously higher.
    The Washington Post, citing reports of tens of thousands of urns being delivered to funeral parlors, of cremation units working 24 hours a day, and of long lines of people waiting to pick up their loved ones’ ashes, suggested that the virus killed between 42,000 and 48,000 in China.
    It’s not surprising, then, that its Communist Party lies to the world. If it’s willing to lie to its own citizens about how many the virus killed, why would we ever assume it would tell us the truth?
    The dying started in China, but did not stop there. Every death from the coronavirus has its roots there.
    The count is staggering: More than 81,000 dead around the world as of Tuesday afternoon, with over 12,000 of those in America.
    Which brings us to another continuing lie — the ultimate source of the outbreak. Although Chinese scientists tracked the initial cluster of cases to a food market in Wuhan in December, the country’s leaders “disappeared” some of those scientists and tried to wiggle out of any responsibility.
    Starting in February and expanding in March, top officials and government media began blaming US military personnel for bringing the disease to China. It is a preposterous claim, but the goal seems to have been simply to create an alternative to the truth and thereby cause doubts about responsibility.
    That’s the brazen plan — stack lie upon lie in the hopes that one will stick. Meanwhile, the clumsy effort itself has helped to fuel speculation that the virus might have leaked from a government virology lab not far from the Wuhan market.
    Sen. Tom Cotton, Republican of Arkansas, has said repeatedly the idea cannot be ruled out, and numerous British officials reportedly share that opinion.
    SEE ALSO



    So many to blame for coronavirus crisis, so don’t bother: Goodwin






    Whatever the final verdict, if there is any common sense and courage left in American politics, neither party will forget or excuse the havoc and death China has unleashed on our country and the world. It doesn’t mean we must shun them, only that we must never again fool ourselves into thinking our countries operate from a shared value system.

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    Ooh la la.

    PHUKET: A French tourist was arrested in Patong area of Kathu district on Tuesday for not wearing a face mask.
    The Frenchman, Djemouai Mhedi, 27, was detained by police on Taweewong road near the Sea Pearl intersection in tambon Patong of Kathu district.
    He was taken to Patong police station where he was charged with violating an order issued by the provincial communicable disease committee requiring all people to wear a face mask while outdoors - a measure against the spread of Covid-19.
    The order, signed by governor Pakkapong Tawipat, is effective from Tuesday until further notice.
    Violation of this order is liable to a fine of up to 20,000 baht under Section 51 of the Communicable Diseases Act of 2015, and may be punishable under the executive decree for administration in emergency situations, which is currently in force.

    https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/1895595/frenchman-caught-without-mask-in-phuket

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    Oooarrrrr that will teach them bloody townies.

    Pattaya lockdown from Thursday


    PATTAYA: This resort city will be locked down to outsiders from Thursday afternoon following a rise in new coronavirus infections.

    Chon Buri governor Pakkhathorn Thianchai, chairman of the provincial communicable disease committee, on Wednesday approved Pattaya City’s proposal to lock down the township from 2pm on Thursday for 21 days.

    It followed meetings involving mayor Sonthaya Khunpluem and Bang Lamung district chief Amnart Charoensri and other senior officials after the number of confirmed Covid-19 infections rose to 30 in Pattaya.


    The resort city has the most infections in Chon Buri province. The meeting agreed to a full lockdown of Pattaya from Thursday and forwarded its resolution to provincial authorities.


    Under the plan, five checkpoints will be set up on roads leading into Pattaya to strictly screen vehicles and people. Those who are not residents of Pattaya or working there will not be allowed to enter until the situation returns to normal.


    Entry to the city will be closed at Krating Rai flyover. Motorists are required to make a U-turn in this area to the railway line road. People entering the town will be screened at checkpoints on the city’s five main access routes - at Soi Chaiyapornvithee, Motorway Route 2 in front of the highway police office, Soi Pornprapanimit, Soi Chayaporn and Sukhumvit Road near the office of the Public Prosecutors in front of Na Jomtien temple.


    People are also required to wear face masks when outdoors.


    Authorities agreed to allow some weekend markets to open to ease the crowding of major marketplaces, which stay open.


    Those who are not exempted in the lockdown announcement but find it necessary to travel must seek permission from the district offices.


    https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...-from-thursday

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    ^The missus is currently on a Foodland run atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    ^The missus is currently on a Foodland run atm.
    That's interesting.

    Is she not wearing a mask or trying to make a break for the Pattaya border?

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    You might have heard about different phases of clinical trials before. Here's what they mean for the purposes of a COVID-19 vaccine:

    • Preclinical: Testing in animals. Does the vaccine produce antibodies, does it protect against illness, what dose is necessary?
    • Phase I: Testing in a small number of humans. This phase is about making sure the vaccine is safe.
    • Phase II: More testing in humans — does the vaccine actually work?
    • Phase III: Testing in a larger number of humans to confirm its effectiveness
    • Phase IV: After the vaccine has been rolled out, ongoing surveillance to make sure it's safe and doesn't have long-term adverse effects

    Amidst these, the potential vaccine also has to be approved for use by relevant regulatory bodies and, crucially, it has to be manufactured in sufficient amounts and distributed around the world.

    A vaccine for coronavirus is the goal, but what does it take to get there? - Health - ABC News

    Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago ...


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    How close are we to a COVID-19 vaccine?

    As mentioned, there are multiple research groups investigating different approaches to developing a vaccine for COVID-19. Most of these are still at the preclinical phase, although a few in the WHO document are in Phase I trials.

    Last week, the CSIRO announced it had begun testing potential vaccines on ferrets at its Australian Animal Health Laboratory in Geelong.

    This pre-clinical stage, which is expected to take three months, involves testing potential vaccines for effectiveness as well as evaluating how best to deliver the vaccine, such as via an injection into the muscles or a nasal spray.

    The CSIRO site is a pipeline for a number of potential COVID-19 vaccines.
    Professor Drew, who is leading CSIRO's COVID-19 virus and vaccine work, said the facility had actually been preparing for these tests since before COVID-19 even broke out.

    "We called it Disease X. we didn't know what would come but we knew something would come," he said.
    "And then suddenly COVID emerged as the disease."

    Ezekiel Uba Nwose, a medical scientist at Charles Sturt University, said you could only speed up processes by so much.

    "Normally vaccines take up to five years or more to develop, but ... the relevant authorities can decide to speed up on the conventional protocols to fast-track bringing it to trials," Dr Nwose said.


    "No matter what, it needs to undergo trials and validation.


    "With the COVID-19 vaccine, I think the earliest several authorities have indicated the earliest we are going to get it is 2021."

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    Thank fuck I can protect my ferret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Easier to read and it's all properly sourced:

    Coronavirus Update (Live): 1,431,944 Cases and 82,084 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

    Interestingly, after screaming upwards, daily new numbers have stuttered a bit. Although there may be a pattern.

    The COVID-2019 Thread-cases-jpg
    I think the problem is no standardised reporting procedures, they should get Thai immigration on the case.

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    Mr. Shithole's dream realised...

    China on Tuesday ended the 76-day lockdown in the city of Wuhan, Hubei province, where the coronavirus outbreak began in late December. Residents who can produce a smartphone application that shows they do not have COVID-19 and have not been in recent contact with anyone infected with the disease, can move about freely, and traffic has returned to roadways and railways.

    Countries Worldwide in Different Stages of COVID-19 Trajectory | Voice of America - English
    No doubt this app provides "full coverage".

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    WASHINGTON — Although President Trump has directed states and hospitals to secure what supplies they can, the federal government is quietly seizing orders, leaving medical providers across the country in the dark about where the material is going and how they can get what they need to deal with the coronavirus pandemic.

    Hospital and clinic officials in seven states described the seizures in interviews over the past week. The Federal Emergency Management Agency is not publicly reporting the acquisitions, despite the outlay of millions of dollars of taxpayer money, nor has the administration detailed how it decides which supplies to seize and where to reroute them.

    Officials who’ve had materials seized also say they’ve received no guidance from the government about how or if they will get access to the supplies they ordered. That has stoked concerns about how public funds are being spent and whether the Trump administration is fairly distributing scarce medical supplies.


    “In order to have confidence in the distribution system, to know that it is being done in an equitable manner, you have to have transparency,” said Dr. John Hick, an emergency physician at Hennepin Healthcare in Minnesota who has helped develop national emergency preparedness standards through the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine.


    The medical leaders on the front lines of the fight to control the coronavirus and keep patients alive say they are grasping for explanations. “We can’t get any answers,” said a California hospital official who asked not to be identified for fear of retaliation from the White House.

    In Florida, a large medical system saw an order for thermometers taken away. And officials at a system in Massachusetts were unable to determine where its order of masks went.


    “Are they stockpiling this stuff? Are they distributing it? We don’t know,” one official said. “And are we going to ever get any of it back if we need supplies? It would be nice to know these things.”


    PeaceHealth, a 10-hospital system in Washington, Oregon and Alaska, had a shipment of testing supplies seized recently. “It’s incredibly frustrating,” said Richard DeCarlo, the system’s chief operating officer.


    “We had put wheels in motion with testing and protective equipment to allow us to secure and protect our staff and our patients,” he said. “When testing went off the table, we had to come up with a whole new plan.”

    Although PeaceHealth doesn’t have hospitals in the Seattle area, where the first domestic coronavirus outbreak occurred, the system has had a steady stream of potentially infected patients who require testing and care by doctors and nurse in full protective equipment.


    Trump and other White House officials, including his close advisor and son-in-law Jared Kushner, have insisted that the federal government is using a data-driven approach to procure supplies and direct them where they are most needed.


    In response to questions from The Times, a FEMA representative said the agency, working with the Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense, has developed a system for identifying needed supplies from vendors and distributing them equitably.


    The representative said the agency factors in the populations of states and major metropolitan areas and the severity of the coronavirus outbreak in various locales. “High-transmission areas were prioritized, and allocations were based on population, not on quantities requested,” the representative said.


    But the agency has refused to provide any details about how these determinations are made or why it is choosing to seize some supply orders and not others. Administration officials also will not say what supplies are going to what states.


    Using the Defense Production Act, a Korean War-era law that allows the president to compel the production of vital equipment in a national emergency, Trump last month ordered General Motors to produce ventilators to address shortfalls at hospitals.


    The law also empowers federal agencies to place orders for critical materials and to see that those get priority over orders from private companies or state and local governments.


    Experts say judicious use of this authority could help bring order to the medical supply market by routing critical material — ventilators, masks and other protective gear — from suppliers to the federal government and then to areas of greatest need, such as New York.

    Yet there is little indication that federal officials are controlling the market, as hospitals, doctors and others report paying exorbitant prices or resorting to unorthodox maneuvers to get what they need.


    Hospital and health officials describe an opaque process in which federal officials sweep in without warning to expropriate supplies.


    Jose Camacho, who heads the Texas Assn. of Community Health Centers, said his group was trying to purchase a small order of just 20,000 masks when his supplier reported that the order had been taken.


    Camacho was flabbergasted. Several of his member clinics — which as primary care centers are supposed to alleviate pressure on overburdened hospitals — are struggling to stay open amid woeful shortages of protective equipment


    “Everyone says you are supposed to be on your own,” Camacho said, noting Trump’s repeated admonition that states and local health systems cannot rely on Washington for supplies. “Then to have this happen, you just sit there wondering what else you can do. You can’t fight the federal government.”

    Feds are seizing coronavirus supplies, hospitals say - Los Angeles Times

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    A look at a few countries view of the virus.


    The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent virus threats and have therefore raised their threat level from “Miffed” to “Peeved.” Soon, though, the level may be raised yet again to “Irritated” or even “A Bit Cross.” The English have not been “A Bit Cross” since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies nearly ran out.
    The virus has been re-categorized from “Tiresome” to “A Bloody Nuisance.” The last time the British issued a “Bloody Nuisance” warning level was in 1588, when threatened by the Spanish Armada.

    The Scots have raised their threat level from “Pissed Off” to “Let's Get the Bastard.” They don't have any other levels. This is the reason they have been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300 years.

    The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its alert level from “Run” to “Hide.” The only two higher levels in France are “Collaborate” and “Surrender.” The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the country's military capability.

    Italy has increased the alert level from “Shout Loudly and Excitedly” to “Elaborate Military Posturing.” Two more levels remain: “Ineffective Combat Operations” and “Change Sides.”

    The Germans have increased their alert state from “Disdainful Arrogance” to “Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs.” They also have two higher levels: “Invade a Neighbour” and “Lose.”

    Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual; the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels.

    The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy. These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.

    Australia, meanwhile, has raised its alert level from “No worries” to “She'll be alright, Mate.” Two more escalation levels remain: “Crikey! I think we'll need to cancel the barbie this weekend!” and “The barbie is cancelled.” So far, no situation has ever warranted use of the final escalation level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    As mentioned, there are multiple research groups investigating different approaches to developing a vaccine for COVID-19. Most of these are still at the preclinical phase, although a few in the WHO document are in Phase I trials.
    All this COVID-19 could have been preventable.

    HOUSTON — Dr. Peter Hotez says he made the pitch to anyone who would listen. After years of research, his team of scientists in Texas had helped develop a vaccine to protect against a deadly strain of coronavirus. Now they needed money to begin testing it in humans.
    But this was 2016. More than a decade had passed since the viral disease known as severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS, had spread through China, killing more than 770 people. That disease, an earlier coronavirus similar to the one now sweeping the globe, was a distant memory by the time Hotez and his team sought funding to test whether their vaccine would work in humans.

    "We tried like heck to see if we could get investors or grants to move this into the clinic," said Hotez, co-director of the Center for Vaccine Development at Texas Children's Hospital and dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at the Baylor College of Medicine in Houston. "But we just could not generate much interest."

    That was a big missed opportunity, according to Hotez and other vaccine scientists, who argue that SARS, and the Middle East respiratory syndrome, or MERS, of 2012, should have triggered major federal and global investments to develop vaccines in anticipation of future epidemics.
    Instead, the SARS vaccine that Hotez's team created in collaboration with scientists at the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston is sitting in a freezer, no closer to commercial production than it was four years ago.
    "We could have had this ready to go and been testing the vaccine's efficacy at the start of this new outbreak in China," said Hotez, who believes the vaccine could provide cross-protection against the new coronavirus, which causes a respiratory disease known as COVID-19. "There is a problem with the ecosystem in vaccine development, and we've got to fix this."
    A vaccine even under the rosiest of projections, one won't be ready for more than a year.

    Scientists were close to a coronavirus vaccine years ago. Then the money dried up.

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    Patts Expats - gonna need to carry your Passport -

    Passports Please! Pattaya imposes tougher measures to block spread of COVID-19 - Pattaya Mail

    Passports Please! Pattaya imposes tougher measures to block spread of COVID-19

    Expats, tourists and all other foreigners have been instructed to have their original passports with them whilst travelling around Pattaya and neighboring districts from Thursday April 9 to, provisionally, the end of the month.

    Government officials from Chonburi, Pattaya and Banglamung have agreed a system of road checkpoints to be set up, especially on all routes out of Pattaya and at the principal intersections between the city and the so called Dark Side, including Soi Siam County Club and Soi Nernplabwan.

    Thai nationals will need to have their ID cards with them.

    The process will include a temperature check (the reading should be below 37.5) and questions about the purpose of travel. It is also a requirement to wear a mask in public at all times. Drivers will also be expected to show a bottle of alcohol gel or similar disinfectant in the vehicle. Pattaya mayor Sonthaya Kunplome said that the moves were designed to reduce further the impact of the Corona virus threat.

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    Coronavirus live updates:-

    Cases in Germany jump by 4,000,

    Euro zone fails to reach stimulus deal



    Key Points

    • The central Chinese city of Wuhan — where the coronavirus was first reported — started allowing people to leave for the first time since it was locked down on Jan. 23 to contain the outbreak.
    • China’s National Health Commission (NHC) reported 62 new cases and two deaths as of April 7.
    • Tesla will cut pay for all of its employees and furlough all hourly workers until May 4, when it intends to resume production of electric cars, according to an internal e-mail that multiple employees shared with CNBC.
    • President Donald Trump blamed the World Health Organization for getting “every aspect” of the coronavirus pandemic wrong and threatened to withhold funding from the international organization.


    Coronavirus live updates: Germany cases, Eurozone stimulus deal

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    • Global cases: More than 1,426,000
    • Global deaths: At least 81,865
    • Most cases reported:-
      • United States (396,223),
      • Spain (141,942),
      • Italy (135,586),
      • France (110,065) and
      • Germany (107,663).



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    WASHINGTON — Although President Trump has directed states and hospitals to secure what supplies they can, the federal government is quietly seizing orders, leaving medical providers across the country in the dark about where the material is going and how they can get what they need to deal with the coronavirus pandemic....
    It's a national emergency, some say existential, normal rules do not apply, whoever outranks gets what they want, if it's serious enough a later inquest will decide if their actions were justified, and it almost always will be.

    Everyone involved in all parts of everything from low end managers to gov leaders are under scrutiny and have probably cocked up in some way or other, and after the event it's clearer what everyone should have done an unprecedented situation, and most of it won't matter.

    But I do hope they properly investigate and prosecute the WHO goons where appropriate, rather than go through the motions and have a few clerks walk the plank.

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    Patts Expats - gonna need to carry your Passport -

    Passports Please! Pattaya imposes tougher measures to block spread of COVID-19 - Pattaya Mail

    Passports Please! Pattaya imposes tougher measures to block spread of COVID-19

    Expats, tourists and all other foreigners have been instructed to have their original passports with them whilst travelling around Pattaya and neighboring districts from Thursday April 9 to, provisionally, the end of the month.

    Government officials from Chonburi, Pattaya and Banglamung have agreed a system of road checkpoints to be set up, especially on all routes out of Pattaya and at the principal intersections between the city and the so called Dark Side, including Soi Siam County Club and Soi Nernplabwan.

    Thai nationals will need to have their ID cards with them.

    The process will include a temperature check (the reading should be below 37.5) and questions about the purpose of travel. It is also a requirement to wear a mask in public at all times. Drivers will also be expected to show a bottle of alcohol gel or similar disinfectant in the vehicle. Pattaya mayor Sonthaya Kunplome said that the moves were designed to reduce further the impact of the Corona virus threat.
    No mention of penalties, which means it depends on how much offenders have on them. But I think once all of those requirements are met the cops should physically stamp the driver's hand so that those at the next roadblock do not need to duplicate these investigative steps, and also because that will make them feel officious and useful.

    But jokes aside we must be moving in the right direction, since they've stopped promoting new whimsical edicts on grounds of national security.

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    24/7 lockdown in Pty from tomorrow for 21 days, can travel but must wear mask in all public places, carry original passport, work permit if any, and residency certificate. Comes with advice to not leave the residence, but if you must then ensure you have all paperwork otherwise ploplem.

    The 6 checkpoints on the map I have are along Sukhumvit and main roads into the Darkside, though there will be patrols and moving checkpoints throughout Pattaya proper.

    Hope your shopping's all done, keep safe and well.

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