The COVID-2019 Thread

[HermantheGerman]

The move was supported by the White House, part of a larger Trump-backed effort to speed the use of anti-malaria drugs as a potential therapy for a virus that has no proven treatment or cure. FDA already has allowed New York state to test administering the medication to seriously ill patients, and some hospitals have added it to their treatment protocols.

"Let's see how it works," Trump said at a press briefing on Sunday, referencing New York state's efforts. "It may. It may not."

Should try it first on some jail birds first

[bowie]

Should try it first on some jail birds first

Don't need guinea pigs for efficacy - have used them (hydroxychloroquine & chloroquine) to treat malaria for decades - make it available for use as a last chance drug for the terminally afflicted - those about to die most likely ain't all too concerned about adverse side-effects

[OhOh]

on a lighter note ...

That's 'arry on his new toy.

[tomcat]

Dr. Birx predicts up to 200,000 coronavirus deaths 'if we do things almost perfectly'

Ben Kesslen
NBC NewsMarch 30, 2020, 6:58 PM GMT+7


Dr. Birx predicts up to 200,000 coronavirus deaths 'if we do things almost perfectly'The White House coronavirus response coordinator said Monday that she is "very worried about every city in the United States" and projects 100,000 to 200,000 American deaths as a best case scenario.

In an interview on "TODAY," Dr. Deborah Birx painted a grim message about the expected fatalities, echoing that they could hit more than 2 million without any measures, as coronavirus cases continue to climb throughout the country.
"I think everyone understands now that you can go from five to 50 to 500 to 5,000 cases very quickly," Birx said.
"I think in some of the metro areas we were late in getting people to follow the 15-day guidelines," she added.

Birx said the projections by Dr. Anthony Fauci that U.S. deaths could range from 1.6 million to 2.2 million is a worst case scenario if the country did "nothing" to contain the outbreak, but said even "if we do things almost perfectly," she still predicts up to 200,000 U.S. deaths.

Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, reiterated Monday on CNN that "I don't want to see it, I'd like to avoid it, but I wouldn't be surprised if we saw 100,000 deaths."

Birx said the best case scenario would be for "100 percent of Americans doing precisely what is required, but we're not sure that all of America is responding in a uniform way to protect one another," referencing images circulating online of people still congregating in big groups and ignoring guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Birx was also on "Meet the Press" on Sunday warning that "no state, no metro area will be spared," a message she repeated Monday. Even if metro or rural areas don't see the virus in the community now, by the time it does appear, the outbreak will be significant, she added.

How long Americans will be expected to comply with measures, including socially distancing and sheltering in place, remains unclear in this growing pandemic after several states and larger cities began implementing measures over the past couple of weeks.

President Trump announced Sunday that the administration's guidelines on social distancing have been extended until April 30. Trump said last week that he wanted to see much of the country return to normal by Easter, April 12, despite warnings from top health experts that easing guidelines early could cause mass deaths. Now, Trump said he expects "great things to be happening" by June 1.

Birx said on Sunday that the choice to extend the guidelines had not been made lightly.
"We know it's a huge sacrifice for everyone," she added.

[harrybarracuda]

How chinky lies have cost lives.

[thailazer]

Fighting corona virus with drugs seems like a losing battle until a vaccine is available. The only real solution is to either avoid the virus, or find a way to get the fluid out of your lungs. I wonder if alcohol in the bloodstream can absorb water from the lungs? Going to by some Tequila just to have on hand!

[harrybarracuda]

The fucking baldy-like idiot in charge of Brazil is still at it.

RIO DE JANEIRO — Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro continues to defy calls from health officials looking to prevent gatherings that might spread the new coronavirus, posting videos of himself gathering small crowds in several neighborhoods in the capital of Brasilia.
Since the beginning of the outbreak, Bolsonaro has downplayed the risks of COVID-19, calling it a “little flu” that largely threatens the elderly and most vulnerable. He has urged them to self-isolate, but otherwise has stressed the need to keep Brazil’s economy running. He has clashed with several state governors who have introduced quarantine measures, such as in Sao Paulo or Rio de Janeiro.
“The virus is here, we’re going to have to confront it. Confront it like a man, not a boy!” Bolsonaro told supporters outside his official residence on Sunday. “We’re all going to die one day.”
As of Sunday, the Brazilian Health Ministry had reported 3,904 confirmed cases and 114 deaths linked to COVID-19.

Brazil’s Bolsonaro downplays coronavirus risks: ‘We’re all going to die one day’ - MarketWatch

[harrybarracuda]

Another retarded jesus wheezer who's more interested in filling his pockets than protecting his flock.

(CNN)Remember the Louisiana pastor who defied the governor's order not to hold gatherings larger than 50 people?

He held services again on Sunday, and he plans to do so yet again on Tuesday night.

On Sunday, Pastor Tony Spell said, his Life Tabernacle Church in Baton Rouge drew about 1,000 people to its services, in part by busing people in from across five parishes.

On Tuesday evening, the pastor plans to hold services again, despite the governor's stay-at-home orders, a petition seeking his arrest and a flood of criticism from fellow Christians.

"If they close every door in this city, then I will close my doors," Spell told CNN on Tuesday. "But you can't say the retailers are essential but the church is not. That is a persecution of the faith."

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/24/us/louisiana-pastor-spell-coronavirus/?hpt=ob_blogfooterold

[YourDaddy]

President Trump was right.

Thank you President for keeping America and the world safe

FDA approves emergency use of malaria pill for COVID-19 treatment

[OhOh]

Report: Two Yokosuka sailors who tested positive for coronavirus are assigned to USS Ronald Reagan


YOKOSUKA NAVAL BASE, Japan — A major U.S. news broadcaster reported over the weekend that two sailors aboard the aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan tested positive for coronavirus.

It was unclear Monday whether those cases, which were reported by Fox News on Saturday citing unnamed U.S. officials, are among three Yokosuka sailors confirmed positive Thursday and Friday.

When asked Thursday whether the first sailor to test positive was assigned to the Ronald Reagan, U.S. Forces Japan officials declined to comment.

The Navy — which previously identified some installations and ships that experienced coronavirus cases — pivoted on Friday to revealing servicewide case numbers only. The change follows a policy “not to disclose specific operational or readiness details of units,” according to emails Friday from Lt. Cmdr. David Levy of Naval Forces Japan and Lt. j.g. Rachel McMarr of Pacific Fleet.

The Navy will no longer provide details that include “specific positive cases, numbers of Sailors in quarantine, or how many Sailors have been tested onboard specific installations,” Levy wrote.

Instead, the Navy is totaling up the numbers of sailors, dependents and contractors testing positive worldwide and publishing them daily on its website. As of Sunday, the service reported 134 sailors, 31 civilians, 23 dependents and 12 contractors had tested positive.

Despite the policy, Yokosuka officials announced two of its three positive cases on Friday evening, though they declined to name the ships or units to which the patients are assigned.

The Yokosuka base entered a third day of lockdown Monday to mitigate spread of the virus following the three positive test results announced last week. Base commander Capt. Rich Jarrett instructed non-essential personnel to stay home and instructed residents to shelter in place “until further notice.”

One of those cases originated in the United States, where that sailor is believed to have contracted the virus before returning to Japan on March 15. The sailor then started the 14 days of restricted movement required for all service members returning from overseas during the pandemic, but developed symptoms around day 10, USFJ officials told Stars and Stripes on Thursday.

At Yokosuka, some sailors underwent that observation period in their homes. But for those who live aboard the Ronald Reagan, those 14 days were served in “a designated observation berthing” on the carrier, according to a March 14 internal notice obtained by Stars and Stripes.

“Medical personnel will conduct daily medical screenings in person for personnel executing their observation period on board the Reagan,” Capt. Pat Hannifin, the carrier’s commander, wrote in the notice.

The goal was to “preserve our personnel readiness,” according to the notice.

“Our focus remains putting to sea on time, with no degradations to warfighting readiness or redundancy,” Hannifin wrote. “Your health and personnel readiness is a crucial component to Reagan’s ability to sail any waters and meet any challenge at sea.”

Navy officials did not immediately respond Monday to questions about whether the Ronald Reagan is still restricting sailors undergoing observation to ship-board quarters.

“Each service member will stay at home or other appropriate domicile coordinated with the parent command,” 7th Fleet spokesman Lt. Joe Keiley told Stars and Stripes in an email March 17. “On-base facilities are made available to sailors that live aboard ships or in unaccompanied housing on base.”

Report: Two Yokosuka sailors who tested positive for coronavirus are assigned to USS Ronald Reagan - Pacific - Stripes

[harrybarracuda]

President Trump was right.

Thank you President for keeping America and the world safe

FDA approves emergency use of malaria pill for COVID-19 treatment

That troll is on a par with anything buttplug could come up with.

Baldy orange cunto probably can't even spell Malaria.

[harrybarracuda]

Fighting corona virus with drugs seems like a losing battle until a vaccine is available. The only real solution is to either avoid the virus, or find a way to get the fluid out of your lungs. I wonder if alcohol in the bloodstream can absorb water from the lungs? Going to by some Tequila just to have on hand!

From an earlier post:

" BCG .... boosts humans’ ‘frontline’ immunity, training it to respond to germs with greater intensity"

I think the implication is that it can make the difference in certain cases, where perhaps someone might be able to recover on their own rather than need an ICU bed.

This horrible little bug seems to hit people in varying shades of severity.

[HermantheGerman]

Fighting corona virus with drugs seems like a losing battle until a vaccine is available. The only real solution is to either avoid the virus, or find a way to get the fluid out of your lungs. I wonder if alcohol in the bloodstream can absorb water from the lungs? Going to by some Tequila just to have on hand!

Try Made in Germany
The stock is booming and everyone is in line (even Kings & Queens) trying to get one

Draeger.Web WWW - Draeger Master

In simple terms, a ventilator presses oxygen-containing air into the lungs with excess pressure and displaces liquid from the alveoli. That sounds simple, but it is actually a highly complex treatment option. Because modern ventilators can adapt the form of ventilation to the individual needs of the patient.

[harrybarracuda]

Cuomo's on live.

[harrybarracuda]

Try Made in Germany
The stock is booming and everyone is in line (even Kings & Queens) trying to get one

Draeger.Web WWW - Draeger Master

In simple terms, a ventilator presses oxygen-containing air into the lungs with excess pressure and displaces liquid from the alveoli. That sounds simple, but it is actually a highly complex treatment option. Because modern ventilators can adapt the form of ventilation to the individual needs of the patient.

Highly expensive too I would imagine.

[pickel]

Flights currently in the air. September 11th had fewer deaths and they shut air traffic down.

[harrybarracuda]

Flights currently in the air. September 11th had fewer deaths and they shut air traffic down.

What on earth is your point?

[harrybarracuda]

A bit of realism I think.

VA Governor orders lockdown until June 10th.

Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam issues '''stay-at-home''' executive order | FOX 5 DC

[pickel]

What on earth is your point?

Are you serious? I guess you're okay with giving the virus rapid means of travel, and places to distribute it.

[David48atTD]

Speaking of Flight Radar 24 ...

^ Looks like the Pilot had a few

[David48atTD]

Is Flight traffic being reduced?

If below is any indication ... that's a yes.


Rush hour over the North Atlantic four weeks apart.

Attachment 47696

[David48atTD]

Sweden defends its more relaxed coronavirus strategy

While the rest of Europe imposes severe restrictions on public life and closes borders and businesses, Sweden is taking a more relaxed approach to the coronavirus outbreak.
Unlike its immediate neighbors Denmark, Finland, and Norway, Sweden has not closed its borders or its schools. Neither has it closed nonessential businesses or banned gatherings of more than two people, as the U.K. and Germany have.

The country’s lead epidemiologist Anders Tegnell told CNBC on Monday that although his country’s strategy to tackle the virus was different, the aim was the same.

“My view is that basically all European countries are trying to do the same thing — we’re trying to slow down the spread as much as possible to keep health care and society working ... and we have shown some different methods to slow down the spread,” he told CNBC.

“Sweden has gone mostly for voluntary measures because that’s how we’re used to working,” Tegnell added.
“And we have a long tradition that it works rather well.” — Holly Ellyatt



Coronavirus live updates: USNS Comfort'''s arrival draws crowds, California has ordered over 100 million N95 masks

[tomcat]

...^the effectiveness of Sweden's "voluntary measures" may be seen in that country's number of virus infections and deaths...just as the effectiveness of prayer may be seen in the number of infections among those attending evangelical religious gatherings in the US...Evolution works in predictable ways, its wonders to perform...

[cyrille]

A petition signed by more than 2,000 doctors, scientists, and professors last week – including the chairman of the Nobel Foundation, Prof Carl-Henrik Heldin – called on the government to introduce more stringent containment measures. “We’re not testing enough, we’re not tracking, we’re not isolating enough – we have let the virus loose,” said Prof Cecilia Söderberg-Nauclér, a virus immunology researcher at the Karolinska Institute. “They are leading us to catastrophe.

“The government thinks they can’t stop it, so they’ve decided to let people die,” Söderberg-Nauclér said. “They don’t want to listen to the scientific data that’s presented to them. They trust the Public Health Agency [Folkhälsomyndigheten] blindly, but the data they have is weak – embarrassing even.

“We are seeing signs of a higher doubling rate than Italy, Stockholm will soon have an acute ICU shortage, and they don’t understand that by then it will be too late to act. All of this is very dangerous.”

'They are leading us to catastrophe': Sweden's coronavirus stoicism begins to jar | World news | The Guardian

[Seekingasylum]

Looks like the Germans are again coming to the aid of the laggardly inept British government. Over 40 stranded Brits have been airlifted out of Bali by a German charter flight with some spare capacity.
Over the past few weeks the German government has charted 70 flights and rescued 17,000 Germans stranded in 21 countries.
I think Raab C Brexit ( "Where is Dover and what is a lorry?") has rescued 300 from Peru.......

As I said, the Brits are rubbish in comparison and it took over two weeks of public shaming to get the useless tossrs to even think about evacuations, never mind organising them. Remember Raab saying to them only three weeks ago ...." You're on your own".

Glass hammers and chocolate teapots, the lot of 'em.