The COVID-2019 Thread

[Latindancer]

Can we have a contest (with prize, of course) for the first TD member to contract COVID-19 ??

[harrybarracuda]

Do you have a link to that information. The reports I have heard state that it only survives for a few hours (up to 9 hours has been quoted) outside the hosts (e.g. hard surfaces)

It is not certain how long the virus that causes COVID-19 survives on surfaces, but it seems to behave like other coronaviruses. Studies suggest that coronaviruses (including preliminary information on the COVID-19 virus) may persist on surfaces for a few hours or up to several days. This may vary under different conditions (e.g. type of surface, temperature or humidity of the environment).

Q&A on coronaviruses (COVID-19)

[HermantheGerman]

Jews are smart and I respect them

“We have to understand, we are in the midst of a global epidemic,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said during a press conference, “the most dangerous of these epidemics in the last 100 years.”

Up to 100,000 Israelis in isolation as Israel expands traveler quarantine - The Jerusalem Post

[HermantheGerman]

"The Premier League fair-play handshake will not take place between players and match officials from this weekend until further notice based on medical advice," a statement said.

What about spitting and snotting on the lawn and then you slide with your shorts and hands right over it

[jabir]

Can we have a contest (with prize, of course) for the first TD member to contract COVID-19 ??

You mean a sweepstake, or a poll?

[Bettyboo]

What about spitting and snotting on the lawn and then you slide with your shorts and hands right over it

Are you talking about football, or is this one of those highly dubious German sex games...

[Little Chuchok]

Do you have a link to that information. The reports I have heard state that it only survives for a few hours (up to 9 hours has been quoted) outside the hosts (e.g. hard surfaces)

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Q&A on coronaviruses (COVID-19)

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[Cujo]

As the death toll and number of people diagnosed with the coronavirus (COVID-19) continue to climb, an expert tells Yahoo News there’s one big lesson that leaders should heed from a pandemic that killed at least 50 million people from 1918 to 1920: “Tell the truth.”

John Barry, author of “The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History,” told Yahoo News he commends the breadth of information coming from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and coverage by the media — a candidness that was absent during the 1918 H1N1 pandemic, also known as the Spanish flu. But he condemned President Trump’s assertion on Feb. 28 that the coronavirus is the Democrats’ “new hoax,” and Rush Limbaugh’s claim that it’s “the common cold.”


“Obviously it’s not a hoax and it’s not a common cold,” Barry said. “Those are two of the stupidest comments that any public official has ever made, if you want to count Rush as a public official.”


Trump’s initial downplaying of the coronavirus threat and subsequent remarks have raised some eyebrows. He contradicted health experts during a briefing on Monday when asked about the timeline for a coronavirus vaccine, claiming one could be ready in “three to four months.” Anthony Fauci, MD, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, corrected the president and said a vaccine is at least a year to a year and a half away. At a White House briefing on Feb. 29, Trump claimed that “the markets are very strong,” even though three major stock indexes had just posted their worst weekly percentage drops since the 2008 financial crisis.


During the Spanish flu pandemic, which raged from early 1918 to 1920, media censorship and downright lies were the norm as the U.S. government attempted to keep morale high in the midst of World War I. Other combatant countries, including France and Germany, had similar wartime policies. Even the name “Spanish flu” is a misnomer — a name that stuck after Spain, which was neutral in the conflict and had a free and open press, became the first country to report on the disease.

Coronavirus and lessons from the Spanish Flu pandemic: "Tell the truth"

[Cujo]

Nicola Zingaretti, the leader of Italy’s Democratic party, one of the national ruling parties, has tested positive for coronavirus.

'It has arrived': Italian Democratic party leader announces he has coronavirus – video | World news | The Guardian

[crackerjack101]

Seems like an authoritative assessment;

[Bettyboo]

^ very good video.

[Pragmatic]

Can we have a contest (with prize, of course) for the first TD member to contract COVID-19 ??

Could that be awarded posthumously?

[crackerjack101]

I don't think I'm panicking but I do have hundreds of rolls of toilet paper ( joking).

My only concern is that as I have a bit of a cancer issue I need to fly from Chiang Rai - Swampy - Singapore - Darwin in mid April.
I'll then have the same trip back a week later having done my bloods, tests and intravenous injections.
What worries me is getting caught up in a self or enforced exclusion session, which would be very boring.
Now, if there is a power point for the Kindles and Tablet and a wet bar it's life as usual. 14 days would be fine.
Still, I'm a bit worried about Singapore and so on.

Any thoughts?

[snakeeyes]

^^
The video was very informative .

[crackerjack101]

This bloke makes sense;

[crackerjack101]

If you're over 60-65;

[harrybarracuda]

Iran has another 743 cases today but it is rumoured that they are telling porky pies and may have as many as 16,000 infected.

Meanwhile, Bahrain has announced that the F1 Grand Prix will go ahead without any spectators (other than the ones with wasta that they let in of course).

The problem being that all the Iranian shi'a that live in Bahrain, and were in Iran licking walls, keep trying to sneak back in and have been the primary source of infections (currently around 70), so they would probably try and slip in with the F1 crowds and make the situation unmanageable.

I assume that this has been cleared with the sports owners.

Bahrain Grand Prix: Fans banned because of coronavirus - BBC Sport

[HermantheGerman]

Iran is moving up close to take Only 50 points away.

Germany has dropped and France is taking 5th again.

I'm confident that we will take back our spot. Those germans are just warming up, it's a bit like football.

Congratulations to Iran, they have taken

They are going strong for

Look out S. Korea

[harrybarracuda]

Fucking hell, another 3,600 cases today and the wops have almost 1,500 of them.

[NamPikToot]

Any thoughts?

It depends on how critical the appointment is J. There could be flight issues downstream, things are developing fairly quickly. If its critical for you to be in Oz for your appointment you may consider getting there early whilst you know you can, later who knows. Its all a gamble at present.

[baldrick]

I would get to oz and be prepared to wait there until August

The modeling has shown the virus should peak in Australia around August and by that time most of the world should have its hands full and likely to be a shift load of travel restrictions every where

I don't think Thailand is where you would want to be until the keystone cops have exhausted their repertoire of stupidity

[David48atTD]

Here are today’s key headlines:

• Oregon becomes the latest state to declare an emergency after cases double.
• Washington state could impose mandatory measures to contain the outbreak as deaths increase.
• The State Department warns against travel on cruise ships after 21 people test positive on Grand Princess.
• The U.S. Army is restricting travel to South Korea and Italy.

Here are the latest figures on the outbreak:

• Global cases: More than 109,000, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University
• Global deaths: At least 3,801, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University
• U.S. cases: At least 511, according to data compiled NBC News
• U.S. deaths: At least 21, according to data compiled by NBC News

[David48atTD]

9:30 am: US Army restricts travel to Italy, South Korea over virus



9:40 am: Passengers on Grand Princess cruise ship in California will face quarantine



10:49 am: Cases in the UK rise to 273 and 2 more die



11:34 am: New York cases rise to 105

Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Sunday announced 16 new cases in New York, bringing the state’s total to 105

12:25 pm: ‘Life can’t stop,’ surgeon general says, as presidential campaigns move forward

In response to a question about whether presidential candidates should stop traveling amid the outbreak, U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams told CNN’s “State of the Union” that “life can’t stop.”

1:04 pm: Italy’s death toll surges as officials move to lock down Milan


Faithful attend the live-broadcasting of Pope Francis’ Sunday Angelus prayer during the Coronavirus emergency at Saint Peter’s Square, on March 8, 2020 in Vatican City, Vatican.
Antonio Masiello

An official from Italy’s Lombardy region, which is the worst-hit part of the country, said 257 people in the area have died, up from 154 a day ago. Nationwide, the country reported 366 deaths, up from 233 on Saturday.

1:12 pm: Cases in France rise to 1,126



2:35 pm: State Department warns against travel by cruise ship



3:10 pm: Smoking and vaping are risk factors, NYC mayor says


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Smoking or vaping makes people more vulnerable to COVID-19, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio said.
He said there’s evidence that the virus becomes more severe in people who smoke or vape.

De Blasio also said people over the age of 50 and with heart disease, lung disease, cancer, immune system vulnerability or diabetes are at a higher risk of becoming infected with the virus and could face a more severe infection. —Feuer

3:21 pm: Oil now a ‘bigger problem for markets than the coronavirus,’ analyst says

Oil prices plunged last week as OPEC and its allies failed to reach an agreement on production cuts, and as prices look set to continue cratering, some are warning about the impact on the broader economy.
“Crude has become a bigger problem for markets than the coronavirus,” Vital Knowledge founder Adam Crisafulli said Sunday. “It will be virtually impossible for the [S&P 500] to sustainably bounce if Brent continues to crater,” he added. —Stevens

3:40 pm: Israel may impose entry restrictions on all countries

Israel is considering broadening its entry restrictions to include travelers from all countries, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said. The move would effectively cut off foreign tourism.

4:36 pm: White House overruled CDC, official says, did not warn older Americans against flying

The White House overruled health officials who wanted to recommend that elderly and physically fragile Americans be advised not to fly on commercial airlines because of the new coronavirus, a federal official told The Associated Press.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention submitted the plan as a way of trying to control the virus, but White House officials ordered the air travel recommendation be removed, said the official who had direct knowledge of the plan.

Trump administration officials have since suggested certain people should consider not traveling, but have stopped short of the stronger guidance sought by the CDC.

The person who spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity did not have authorization to talk about the matter. The person did not have direct knowledge about why the decision to kill the language was made or who made the call. —Associated Press

5:26 pm: US cases now top 500, at least 21 deaths


Coronavirus live updates: US cases top 500

[Bettyboo]

Congratulations to Iran, they have taken

They are going strong for

Look out S. Korea

Looks like S.Korea may be number 4 and dropping within a day or two - fingers crossed:

[David48atTD]

Wuhan shuts down 11 makeshift hospitals as China cases slow

Key Points

• China reports 40 new confirmed cases and 22 additional deaths as of Mar. 8, bringing the total number of cases in the mainland to 80,735 and the cumulative death toll to 3,119.
• Following the discharge of most patients, 11 of the 14 makeshift hospitals in Wuhan that were built for treatment of the new coronavirus have closed, Chinese state broadcaster CCTV said.
• In the U.S., the number of confirmed cases now stands at 511, according to data compiled by NBC News, and there are at least 21 deaths attributable to the virus

Following the discharge of most patients, 11 of the 14 makeshift hospitals in Wuhan that were built for treatment of the new coronavirus have closed, state broadcaster CCTV said Sunday evening.
Remaining patients are gradually being sent to designated hospitals, and there are only about 100 people left in the remaining 3 makeshift hospitals, the report said.

Wuhan city, the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak, began opening the makeshift or “cabin” hospitals on Feb. 5 and the repurposed venues have treated more than 12,000 people with mild cases of the virus, according to CCTV.

Last week, other Chinese media reports noted that at least one such hospital warned of an increasing number of relapses among discharged patients. — Cheng



Coronavirus live updates: Wuhan shuts down 11 makeshift hospitals, China cases slow