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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Dr.Kriangsak Atipornwanich, a doctor at Rajavithi Hospital in Bangkok, said he treated a 71-year-old female patient from China with a combination of drugs used in HIV and flu treatments. He said the patient had previously been treated with only anti-HIV drugs.


    “I had treated a patient with severe condition, and the result has been very satisfactory. The patient’s condition has improved very quickly within 48 hours. And the test result has also changed from being positive into negative within 48 hours as well,” Atipornwanich said.
    Good news surfacing, excellent. Are their adequate supplies of his chosen drugs available worldwide?

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    And if you believe that utter twaddle then you are more in need of help than many of us first thought.

    The coronavirus is simply a strain of the common cold virus against which there is both no known immunisation nor cure. Retroviral drugs are not a cure for the common cold or the varying flu viruses but prevent the development of the HIV virus into an AIDS pathology, the modern iterations of which seem now to eradicate the virus but only after prolonged use.

    Quite why a patient allegedly infected with the coronavirus, a virus which causes upper respiratory tract problems, should be treated with HIV drugs is a mystery but then claiming that it worked in combination with "flu treatments" is really beyond preposterous given that such vaccines are only of use against specific viral strains and as a prophylactic, not as a "cure" although their application might in some circumstances ameliorate symptoms.

    The WHO information being disseminated is that infection is relatively short-lived once symptoms develop but the danger is that those with pre-existing conditions or weakened immune systems through advanced age or a combination of senescence and illness are more at risk.

    Thai posturing and vaunting puffery is of course a well known symptom of a deeper social malaise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    Should I be more worried than I am?
    So far I have managed to survive through Mad Monkey Cow Disease, Ebola, the Swine Flu, Bird Flu, HIV, Aids, SARS, MERS, NBC, CBS, Ch 3, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, enforced vaccinations, drought, floods, Bush & Obama, 3 coups, Thai roads and to date, Trump, TVF, Agenda 21, Greta Thunberg & Global warming, all is well - so far, just sitting back watching the hysteria.
    What about broken heart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Thai doctor says new drug combination treated coronavirus patient

    Doctors in Thailand say they have successfully treated two Wuhan coronavirus patients with a combination of antiviral drugs, according to a briefing on Sunday from the Ministry of Health.


    Dr.Kriangsak Atipornwanich, a doctor at Rajavithi Hospital in Bangkok, said he treated a 71-year-old female patient from China with a combination of drugs used in HIV and flu treatments. He said the patient had previously been treated with only anti-HIV drugs.


    “I had treated a patient with severe condition, and the result has been very satisfactory. The patient’s condition has improved very quickly within 48 hours. And the test result has also changed from being positive into negative within 48 hours as well,” Atipornwanich said.


    Officials at the press conference said the latest lab test has showed there’s no trace of the virus in the patient’s respiratory system.


    Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the US National Institutes of Health, told CNN last week there are currently no proven effective drugs to treat the virus.


    Hospitals in Beijing have reported using the same drugs given to HIV and AIDs patients are part of treatment for the Wuhan coronavirus, though it is unclear if they have been successful.

    Coronavirus news and live updates: First death confirmed outside mainland China - CNN
    A thai doctor saves the world ?

    Nobel Price or guillotine ?

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    All face saving bull shit of course

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    She would have got better with just Hong Thong

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    The number of deaths has surpassed SARS deaths . . . and comparing it to the flu and 6000 deaths annually in the US doesn't take into account the short time this crap has been around.

    I guess we'll see how it develops

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    But ya Got a call it though.

    Compared to the Septic trash shooting each other in mass killings and Lieland killing 20000 punters a year on the roads these outbreaks are fook all.

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    Given the transmission rates it could take a month until its clear if its going to be problematic outside China. Its relatively low in the mortality stakes but given the quarranteening in China it can't be pleasant being one of those locked down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    given the quarranteening in China it can't be pleasant


    It certainly made me wince.

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    It's hard to detect for a few weeks and it has still killed more than SARS within a short period. We will see, but it could be pretty bad.

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    Time lapse video: Construction of Wuhan Huoshenshan Hospital completed


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    ^ Amazing the speed, that things can actually be built when needed.

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    ^ when needed being the important part of the statement - it clearly is needed...

    In Korea, straight off the plane, into testing and right through to quarantine without stepping into the airport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    Amazing the speed, that things can actually be built when needed.
    More likely an existing plan was dusted off and used. Coupled with the desire, by all who contributed to work as a team and help the affected citizens of all nationalities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    the desire, by all who contributed to work as a team and help the affected citizens of all nationalities.
    You should really provide the citation from Xinhua news for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Time lapse video: Construction of Wuhan Huoshenshan Hospital completed


    Considering the speed at which this virus is spreading:
    "I think those construction workers can admit themselves right into their own hospital when done."

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    17,486 cases

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    511 recovered

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    17,486 cases
    362 deaths
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    hmm... 17,486 cases and the population of Wuhan is 11 million

    makes ya wonder just how those 10,982,514 other folk managed to avoid getting it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    And if you believe that utter twaddle then you are more in need of help than many of us first thought.

    The coronavirus is simply a strain of the common cold virus against which there is both no known immunisation nor cure. Retroviral drugs are not a cure for the common cold or the varying flu viruses but prevent the development of the HIV virus into an AIDS pathology, the modern iterations of which seem now to eradicate the virus but only after prolonged use.

    Quite why a patient allegedly infected with the coronavirus, a virus which causes upper respiratory tract problems, should be treated with HIV drugs is a mystery but then claiming that it worked in combination with "flu treatments" is really beyond preposterous given that such vaccines are only of use against specific viral strains and as a prophylactic, not as a "cure" although their application might in some circumstances ameliorate symptoms.

    The WHO information being disseminated is that infection is relatively short-lived once symptoms develop but the danger is that those with pre-existing conditions or weakened immune systems through advanced age or a combination of senescence and illness are more at risk.

    Thai posturing and vaunting puffery is of course a well known symptom of a deeper social malaise.

    makes sense. seems only about 2% of infected persons succumb. That would be the 2% with weakened immune systems/advanced age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Time lapse video: Construction of Wuhan Huoshenshan Hospital completed
    It's planned obviously under very simple proportion:
    100 workers can do it in 3 years = 1,065 days
    1,000 workers - 1,065/10 = 106.5 days
    10,000 workers - 1,065/100 = 10.65 days

    In similar planning was built the first Lenin's Mausoleum within 3 days after his death in 1924...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    In similar planning was built the first Lenin's Mausoleum within 3 days after his death in 1924...
    your slip is showing, comrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    . . . and comparing it to the flu and 6000 deaths annually in the US
    Had to look it up

    40000 more like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Had to look it up

    40000 more like it
    Oh . . . I found it was 6000 but will bow to your superior research skills

    (That's a lot of people, even among 340 million)

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    China Clamps Down on Independent Reporting of Epidemic as Cases, Deaths Keep Rising

    The ruling Chinese Communist Party is moving to curb media organizations and social media users in their reporting of the Wuhan coronavirus epidemic, RFA has learned, as the number of confirmed cases rose to more than 17,000 with a total of 362 deaths reported on Monday.

    Journalists in Wuhan working for Caixin, Phoenix news, and other state-approved news organizations have been ordered by the party's powerful propaganda department to conduct a review of their coverage after their reports indicated that local officials had likely sought to cover up the extent of the outbreak in its early stages.

    Journalists who had interviewed patients or their families, or reported on the large number of patients left to fend for themselves at home due to a lack of resources, and were therefore left out of official statistics, were also targeted for "review" by propaganda officials.

    Many estimates have taken the number of undiagnosed, untreated, and uncounted coronavirus patients into account, with the majority of observers convinced that the number of cases likely exceeds 100,000, with deaths also going unreported.

    One reporter who declined to be named said propaganda officials had ordered their publication to delete a reference to large numbers of uncounted cases.

    "The more severe censorship was around the question of statistics," the journalist told RFA. "The central propaganda department directly ordered the deletion of that part."

    "Other media have been prevented from publishing some stories; the copy just hasn't been published with no notice given, even by word of mouth," the journalist said.

    Call for CT scans

    Government censors have also deleted accounts belonging to medical imaging experts Zhang Bo and Zhang Xiaochun of Wuhan University's Zhongnan Hospital after they posted a request for diagnosis to be made through CT scans rather than genetic tests of the virus.

    Zhang Xiaochun had also called on the government to search hotels and student dormitories for suspected patients to avoid clusters of infection from spreading in areas where people live together.

    Zhang was also one source of the estimate that the true number of coronavirus cases is likely around 100,000.

    Her posts came after relatives said via RFA and social media reports that they had been unable to get a diagnosis or treatment for their sick family members because of a lack of hospital beds or coronavirus test kits.

    A professor surnamed Zhou at Central South University in neighboring Hunan province said Zhang's allegations ring completely true, and warned that sending patients back home will just mean that they infect all of their family and friends.

    "What she's saying is totally true. This is indeed what is happening," Zhou said. "They won't just be infecting their families but other people in the same building."

    "It's no good relying on [government] neighborhood committees to prevent infection."

    Calls to Zhongnan Hospital rang unanswered on Monday.

    A staff member who answered the phone at Wuhan University declined to comment, saying she didn't know about the situation regarding the two hospital staff members.

    Citizen journalist held, released

    The warnings to media professionals and social media users came as state security police released citizen journalist Fang Bin after detaining him in connection with a video he posted of dead and dying patients in Wuhan's No. 5 Hospital at the weekend.

    The video went viral, and a group of people showed up at Fang's home, dressed as medical personnel.

    They were actually police, and they confiscated Fang's computers and took him away for questioning, according to a video he posted about his ordeal.

    "This is why I've been saying all along that my safety depends on all of you," he said, thanking social media users for their outcry following his detention.

    "There's no point in being fearful or craven, right? The more fearful you are, the worse this sort of thing will get," he said. "Everyone has to work together. We have to save ourselves in a nationwide movement."

    "You all saved me, and I am very grateful to you all."

    A Hubei resident who asked to remain anonymous said he hopes Fang goes back to reporting from Wuhan regardless.

    "I hope that other citizens in Hubei, as well as professional journalists, will be courageous enough to report on the actual situation from the front line," the resident said.

    "I also hope that the authorities won't try to cover anything up. The more transparent they are about the facts, the less worried people will be."

    Police under 'huge pressure'

    In Beijing, veteran rights activist Hu Jia said he was also taken away for questioning by state security police.

    "[The state security police] are under huge pressure over this epidemic," Hu said. "But people's sense of grievance is already at boiling point because of [the government's] irresponsibility in covering everything up."

    "They have to stamp out any sign of criticism online," Hu said, adding that he was likely detained for speaking to RFA in an earlier interview.

    "They reduce your words to trying to overthrow the system, accuse you of using the epidemic to incite subversion of state power, because they feel that this is even more of a threat to [party rule] than the Hong Kong protests last year," he said.

    "At least they could keep what was going on in Hong Kong outside the Great Firewall and the Shenzhen river, but the epidemic concerns everyone," he said.

    China Clamps Down on Independent Reporting of Epidemic as Cases, Deaths Keep Rising

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