The COVID-2019 Thread

[nidhogg]

TB kills a lot more than the flu every year in Korea, sadly.

TB death rate in Korea in 2018 was 4.7 per 100,000.

South Korea - Tuberculosis Death Rate (per 100,000 People) - 2000-2018 Data | 2020 Forecast


Population is a tad under 52 million:

https://www.google.com/search?q=popu...hrome&ie=UTF-8

Number of deaths from Tb would be 52 million/100,000 x 4.7 or 2,444 approximately.


From here, South Korea death rate per 100,00 from influenza/pneumonia is 19.84.

INFLUENZA AND PNEUMONIA DEATH RATE BY COUNTRY

Number of deaths from influenza/pneumonia would be 52 million/100,000 x 19.84 or 10, 316.

That is close to the figure here:

Estimating Influenza-associated Mortality in Korea: The 2009-2016 Seasons

That reports 77,850 underlying influenza or pneumonia death across seven flu seasons, giving an average of 11,121 per year.

[Bettyboo]

TB death rate in Korea in 2018 was 4.7 per 100,000.

South Korea - Tuberculosis Death Rate (per 100,000 People) - 2000-2018 Data | 2020 Forecast


Population is a tad under 52 million:

https://www.google.com/search?q=popu...hrome&ie=UTF-8

Number of deaths from Tb would be 52 million/100,000 x 4.7 or 2,444 approximately.


From here, South Korea death rate per 100,00 from influenza/pneumonia is 19.84.

INFLUENZA AND PNEUMONIA DEATH RATE BY COUNTRY

Number of deaths from influenza/pneumonia would be 52 million/100,000 x 19.84 or 10, 316.

That is close to the figure here:

Estimating Influenza-associated Mortality in Korea: The 2009-2016 Seasons

That reports 77,850 underlying influenza or pneumonia death across seven flu seasons, giving an average of 11,121 per year.

Why don't you start a Seasonal Flu thread...

On this thread, to add some perspective on this virus:





Not my words, hers:

[Chico]

Funny how we compare stats of deaths between Coronavirus V Flu though seems to forget the number of people who die from hunger/hunger related diseases each year.

9 million but we don't blink an eye.........

[harrybarracuda]

Are you telling me that there are folks out there who still didn't comprehend that ?

I guess then there is another virus out there called the "Intellectual disability-2019".

Yes, it would appear there are because they keep banging on about cancer, car accidents, flu and global hunger.

None of which have much of a fucking iota to do with this thread.

[harrybarracuda]

Fucking hell Korea again.

South Korea's Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced 586 new coronavirus cases on Sunday, bringing the country’s total to 3,736.

Coronavirus news and live updates: First deaths in US, Thailand and Australia - CNN

[nidhogg]

Why don't you start a Seasonal Flu thread...

Because i was specifically refuting a point you made on *this* thread.

[panama hat]

Funny how we compare stats of deaths between Coronavirus V Flu though seems to forget the number of people who die from hunger/hunger related diseases each year.

They're not contagious and don't directly affect the other 8 billion, that's why

[misskit]

Oh, my. This will be bad.


Washington state investigating possible coronavirus outbreak at a nursing facility

(CNN)Washington state health officials are investigating a possible outbreak of coronavirus at a long-term nursing facility in which two people tested positive for the disease.


More than 50 residents and staff from the Life Care Center in Kirkland are experiencing symptoms, and will be tested for coronavirus, said Dr. Jeffrey Duchin, health officer for Seattle and King County.


The news comes the same day the first US death from coronavirus was reported in Washington state, health officials said Saturday. The man in his 50s, who had underlying health conditions, was not a resident at the care facility.


The two positive tests associated with the nursing facility include a 40-year-old female health care worker who has no known travel outside the US and is in satisfactory condition at a local hospital, officials said. The second one, a woman in her 70s, is hospitalized in serious condition.

MORE Coronavirus: Washington state investigates possible outbreak at nursing facility - CNN

[HermantheGerman]

Great news!
Silver lining and so on

Airborne Nitrogen Dioxide Plummets Over China

NASA and European Space Agency (ESA) pollution monitoring satellites have detected significant decreases in nitrogen dioxide (NO₂) over China. There is evidence that the change is at least partly related to the economic slowdown following the outbreak of coronavirus.......the rest....

Airborne Nitrogen Dioxide Plummets Over China

[Chico]

They're not contagious and don't directly affect the other 8 billion, that's why

Well consider this,there immune systems are fucked they get a virus such as COV-19 and we don't have a pandemic we have a new plague.

[panama hat]

Well consider this,there immune systems are fucked they get a virus such as COV-19 and we don't have a pandemic we have a new plague.

But that's not what you were referring to.

Funny how we compare stats of deaths between Coronavirus V Flu though seems to forget the number of people who die from hunger/hunger related diseases each year.

9 million but we don't blink an eye.........

Oh, my. This will be bad.

Wow, just the demographic that is most at risk . . . not wanting to make this political but how will Trump respond - it's the media and Democrats' fault.

With Pence in charge . . . what a scenario

[Chico]

But that's not what you were referring to.

Oh I see I can't continue with my views,have to stay with the starving and there death rates.

Righty ho.

[panama hat]

Oh I see I can't continue with my views,have to stay with the starving and there death rates.

When that is what compared the coronavirus to then why switch? That is precisely continuing with your views

[Bettyboo]

A good app on Kakao which is the Korean version Line. Tells you how many people affected in your area, where they have been, etc...



(Yes, you can translate it into English...)

[harrybarracuda]

It seems most Koreans are very upset with this religious cult.

The leader of a religious sect in South Korea could face a homicide investigation over some of the country's coronavirus deaths.
The city government of the capital Seoul has asked prosecutors to charge Lee Man-hee, the founder of the Shincheonji Church, and 11 others.
They are accused of hiding the names of some members as officials tried to track patients before the virus spread.
South Korea is battling the worst coronavirus outbreak outside China.
The country has reported 3,730 cases and 21 deaths so far. More than half of all infections involve members of the Shincheonji Church of Jesus, a fringe Christian group.
Authorities say Shincheonji members infected one another in the southern city of Daegu last month, before fanning out around the country.


On Sunday the Seoul City government filed a legal complaint to prosecutors against 12 leaders of the sect. They are accused of homicide, causing harm and violating the Infectious Disease and Control Act.
The BBC's Laura Bicker in Seoul says the complaint reflects growing public anger towards the religious group. Its leader Lee Man-hee claims he is the Messiah.
All 230,000 members of the church have been interviewed. Nearly 9,000 said they were showing symptoms of coronavirus.
A 61-year-old female member of the sect who tested positive for the virus was among the first to be infected.
She initially refused to be taken to a hospital to be tested and is known to have attended several church gatherings before testing positive.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-51695649

[Looper]

GE	DEATH RATE confirmed cases	DEATH RATE all cases
80+ years old	21.9%	14.8%
70-79 years old		8.0%
60-69 years old		3.6%
50-59 years old		1.3%
40-49 years old		0.4%
30-39 years old		0.2%
20-29 years old		0.2%
10-19 years old		0.2%
0-9 years old		no fatalities

PRE-EXISTING CONDITION	DEATH RATE confirmed cases	DEATH RATE all cases
Cardiovascular disease	13.2%	10.5%
Diabetes	9.2%	7.3%
Chronic respiratory disease	8.0%	6.3%
Hypertension	8.4%	6.0%
Cancer	7.6%	5.6%
no pre-existing conditions		0.9%

I was googling around to find demographics of the deceased.

Not sure how accurate a source this is but seems like if you are not to old and otherwise healthy there is maybe not much to be worried about

Coronavirus Age, Sex, Demographics (COVID-19) - Worldometer

[hallelujah]

I was speaking to my local doctor on Monday, he said to me this is the most serious medical situation in his lifetime (he's probably about 55), and he's extremely concerned about it.

I'd imagine one of the major concerns they have is that the virus mutates and becomes much more lethal than it currently is. Taking that into account with the supposed recent cases of reinfection and it really would be time to start ticking things off your bucket list.

[harrybarracuda]

I'd imagine one of the major concerns they have is that the virus mutates and becomes much more lethal than it currently is. Taking that into account with the supposed recent cases of reinfection and it really would be time to start ticking things off your bucket list.

I did read something about a new strain discovered in China; I'll try and find the link.

It's also worth mentioning that it killed the 34 year old doctor who first sounded the alarm (despite the chinkies telling him off).

[OhOh]

there is maybe not much to be worried about

I would suggest it may be the prospect of major business shutdowns worldwide, that are causing the "worries".

Those who rely on financial markets performance for up-coming re-election. Along with those who travel the world for employment.

[harrybarracuda]

I would suggest it may be the prospect of major business shutdowns worldwide, that are causing the "worries".

Those who rely on financial markets performance for up-coming re-election. Along with those who travel the world for employment.

And those who rely on supply chains for food and drugs.

[David48atTD]

Great news!
Silver lining and so on

Airborne Nitrogen Dioxide Plummets Over China


NASA and European Space Agency (ESA) pollution monitoring satellites have detected significant decreases in nitrogen dioxide (NO₂) over China. There is evidence that the change is at least partly related to the economic slowdown following the outbreak of coronavirus.......the rest....

Airborne Nitrogen Dioxide Plummets Over China

The drop in pollution also coincided with the Lunar New Year, when most businesses in China close.
"There is always this general slowdown around this time of the year," NASA air quality scientist Barry Lefer said.


But NASA's Earth Observatory said that: "While the Lunar New Year may have played a role in the recent drop-off, researchers believe the decrease is more than a holiday effect or weather-related variation."
It noted that pollution levels had not risen as expected after the New Year holiday.

[Saint Willy]

Lom, the virus has not played out, and it's very unlikely the mortality rate will end up under 2%, globally, if it's anything like the SARS timeline, mortality analysis, then we might be talking 4%+

based on what scientific evidence?

[hallelujah]

based on what scientific evidence?

This is the crux of the matter, isn't it? You've got people who haven't even bothered going to the doctor to get themselves sorted, who can't accurately be counted in the figures, while the Wuhan numbers also escalate the total.

It's all guesswork at this stage regarding the long term, but it's pretty clear that the threat is currently quite low for most and will probably remain so in the virus's current state.

[Luigi]

I was googling around to find demographics of the deceased.

Not sure how accurate a source this is but seems like if you are not to old and otherwise healthy there is maybe not much to be worried about

Yeah...

Big brouhaha over not much.

[HermantheGerman]

based on what scientific evidence?

Do you have any clue what scientific evidence is,when it's used, evaluated, observed, or how it is determined ?