The COVID-2019 Thread

[Chittychangchang]

As of 09:00 GMT on Saturday, more than 10,000 people in the UK had been tested for coronavirus.

In other recent developments:

The Foreign Office has called on Iran to "immediately allow" health officials to examine Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe - a British-Iranian woman jailed in Iran. Her husband, Richard Ratcliffe, said he suspected she had the virus but said prison staff were refusing to test her
Meanwhile, conspiracy theories and false medical advice are becoming a problem in Iran - the country has seen more fatalities than anywhere else outside China
Fear of the virus wiped £200bn off UK firms' value as London's FTSE 100 share index saw one of its worst weeks since the 2008 financial crisis
People who had been in close contact with the first person to test positive for the virus in Northern Ireland have all been notified, officials say
"Drive-through" test centres for the virus have opened in Antrim and Edinburgh
Online supermarket Ocado has seen a spike in demand. The company told the BBC that shoppers were placing "particularly large orders" - and suggested customers place orders further in advance than usual
President Donald Trump says the first person in the US to die from coronavirus was a medically high-risk woman in her late 50s
France has temporarily banned gatherings of more than 5,000 people "in confined spaces" as it reported a jump in cases
And South Korea recorded its largest increase in coronavirus infections in a single day on Friday- bringing the total number of infections in the country to 3,150

[hallelujah]

As of 09:00 GMT on Saturday, more than 10,000 people in the UK had been tested for coronavirus.

And 1 person has died. The mortality rate is currently estimated at between 1-2 % despite the scaremongering tabloids.

Nidhog (even Jeff) had it right elsewhere on the forum: it's basically another strain of flu and most will shake it off. More of an issue if you're above 70 and/or have health problems though.

For the rest, most people will have little more than a heavy cold.

Nevertheless, it sounds like something we're gonna have to live with every flu season now the genie is out of the bottle.

[PlanK]

Given the supposed victim demographic Millennials have petitioned the WHO to have the virus renamed from Covid-19 to: Not-OK, Boomer-2020.


Swings and roundabouts, we might get some cheaper house prices out of this.

[David48atTD]

6:05 am: Corona beer sales have NOT taken a hit from virus fears

In any virus outbreak, there is sure to be plenty of misinformation that circulates, but it usually isn’t about beer.

6:19 am: Santa Clara County health officials confirm new coronavirus case, 10th in California



7:43 am: Dow caps worst week for Wall Street since the financial crisis

Stocks tumbled once again on Friday, capping off their worst week since the financial crisis, as worries over the coronavirus and its impact on the economy continue to rattle investor sentiment. The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 357.28 points, or more than 1%, to 25,409.36. The 30-stock Dow briefly fell more than 1,000 points then rallied into the close in a wild trading session characteristic of the week. The S&P 500 slid 0.8% to 2,954.22. The Nasdaq Composite closed flat at 8,567.37 but fell as much as 3.5% on the day. For the week, the Dow fell more than 12% — its biggest weekly percentage loss since 2008. On a points basis, the Dow fell more than 3,500 points, far and away its largest weekly point loss ever. It also ended the week in correction territory, down 14.1% from an intraday record high set Feb. 12. —Imbert, Huang

8:43 am: Trump says the coronavirus is the Democrats’ ‘new hoax’

President Donald Trump said Democrats are using the virulent coronavirus as a “hoax” to damage him and his administration.

9:05 am: China confirms 427 new cases

China’s National Health Commission reported 427 new confirmed cases and 47 deaths over the last 24 hours, bringing the total number of cases in the country to 79,251 as of 4 a.m.
Beijing time. Across the world, the number of new cases tops 84,124 as new infections outside of China spread faster than within the country, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.
At least 2,867 people have died since the virus first emerged from Wuhan, China about two months ago. —Kopecki

9:37 am: North Korean leader calls for stronger anti-virus efforts

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has called for stronger anti-virus efforts to guard against COVID-19, saying there will be “serious consequences” if the illness spreads to the country.

10:15 am: China factory activity is slammed by coronavirus, showing record contraction

Manufacturing in China shrank at the fastest pace ever recorded in February, as the world’s second-biggest economy was stung by the coronavirus outbreak that began in Wuhan province and has spread throughout the country. China’s Purchasing Manager’s Index (PMI) came in at a reading of 35.7, the National Bureau of Statistics said on Saturday. A reading below 50 indicates a contraction.

11:05 am: United Airlines offers pilots a month off as demand for China flights collapses


11:21 am: Oregon’s first reported case appears to be ‘community-transmitted’

The U.S. state of Oregon reported its first case of novel coronavirus, public health officials announced.

The individual, an adult who lives in Washington County, has no history of travel to a country where the virus is known to be circulating and is not believed to have had close contact with other confirmed cases.

Officials “are considering it a likely community-transmitted case,” they said.

Washington County lies just to the west of Portland, the state’s largest city. —Kemp

12:23 pm: South Korea reports almost 600 new cases

South Korea reported 594 new cases as of Saturday morning, bringing its total to 2,931, according to the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
It also said there were three additional deaths, bringing that total to 16.

Of the new cases, 476 are from Daegu, South Korea’s fourth-largest city, where a large number of infections have been reported. —Tan

12:31 pm: Washington State reports two ‘presumptive positive’ cases


2:55 pm: Australia to bar foreign nationals traveling from Iran


5:27 pm: South Korea records its biggest daily jump in infections

South Korea has 219 new coronavirus cases, according to Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC).

It said Saturday that the 219 added to the 594 cases confirmed earlier in the day, and brought the country’s total infections to 3,150.

According to Reuters, the country has therefore logged a record daily increase since South Korea confirmed its first patient on Jan. 20. —Clinch

6:24 pm: Iran says its death toll has risen to 43

The new coronavirus has killed 43 people in the Islamic Republic, according to an Iranian Health Ministry spokesman on Saturday.

The country now has 593 confirmed cases with a total of over 720 across the whole of the Middle East, according to AP. —Clinch

7:31 pm: Italy postpones more soccer games

Italy’s top-flight Serie A soccer league will see more matches postponed this weekend due to the outbreak of the new coronavirus.

Juventus vs. Inter will not take place, along with four other matches, according to the country’s footballing authorities.

Italy has over 800 confirmed cases of the virus, one of the largest outside of China. —Clinch

9:52 pm: France bans gatherings of more than 5,000 people

France’s health minister has said that gatherings of more than 5,000 people, in a confined space, will be banned.

This comes as the country’s number of confirmed cases rose to 73 on Saturday.

• Total confirmed cases: More than 85,000
• Total deaths: At least 2,924

The coverage on this live blog has ended — but for up-to-the-minute coverage on the coronavirus, visit the live blog from CNBC’s US team.






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[hallelujah]

Given the supposed victim demographic Millennials have petitioned the WHO to have the virus renamed from Covid-19 to: Not-OK, Boomer-2020.


Swings and roundabouts, we might get some cheaper house prices out of this.

Can we get Brexit reversed too when all these old dinosaurs die off?

[David48atTD]

Coronavirus live updates: Trump holds presser, first US death confirmed

[hallelujah]

^ Do you have a similar map for the flu?

[Chittychangchang]

Also do we have a map for people who have survived the dry cough flu and not reported it?

I swear the virus has been in the UK for a month now.

[hallelujah]

Also do we have a map for people who have survived the dry cough flu and not reported it?

I swear the virus has been in the UK for a month now.

See my posts above, Chitty.

It's barely a cough for most people.

[Bettyboo]

See my posts above, Chitty.

It's barely a cough for most people.

Most people's motorbike and car accidents are hardly a scratch - I've had several, not sure I've even been bloodied in all of them combined.

Of course, I'd be an idiot to say it's barely a sore neck for most people or ask to see a comparable graph for cancer deaths...






I was speaking to my local doctor on Monday, he said to me this is the most serious medical situation in his lifetime (he's probably about 55), and he's extremely concerned about it.

In 6 weeks:

[lom]

Calm down Betty, South Korea yesterday had 3150 reported cases and 17 deaths ie 0.55% mortality.
The delta for SK yesterday was 813 new cases and 1 death.

It is mainly China and to some extent Iran that are bringing up the average worldwide mortality rate to the current 3.2%, a figure that is on decline.
Remove those two and mortality rate becomes more correct.
Think positively, you are not even in the age group of high mortality..

[Bettyboo]

Lom, the virus has not played out, and it's very unlikely the mortality rate will end up under 2%, globally, if it's anything like the SARS timeline, mortality analysis, then we might be talking 4%+

Korea is a good indication of even in a developed country with a good healthcare system, the virus can get out of control in a matter of weeks. It'd be foolish to ignore that evidence, imho - this virus is a lot worse than some folks are realizing.

[Bettyboo]

Look how densely the virus has spread easterly. When the virus spreads westerly into that huge population area then the number of cases will double, triple+ within weeks.

We're likely to see various spread patterns. 1) as above, moving out from its centre, Wuhan. 2) Smaller centres that spread such as we're seeing in Italy and Iran. It's neither contained nor containable. I'm not saying it's worse than the flu, it's different, but it has the potential to be similarly as dangerous (or more so), and then you have the flu x 2+; also, because it's new, because it's already a mutation itself, the potential for it to get even worse by mutating again or offering something new (like the fact a few folks got it again very quickly after recovering) is present.

&, Thailand is likely to become a big red spot before too long too, I hope not... Regarding Thailand, the wife was watching Thai TV, and they were saying the numbers of Thai Caspers returning to Thailand from Korea has increased 400% in the last 10 days or so.

[Chico]

If what the Italian scientists are saying I could be eating my own words, if this virus is mutating got knows what its going to pick up along the way.

Italian Scientists isolate new strain of coronavirus - People's Daily Online

[Luigi]

Thailand first death.


A 35 year old man.


Who also had dengue fever.

[Seekingasylum]

Calm down Betty, South Korea yesterday had 3150 reported cases and 17 deaths ie 0.55% mortality.
The delta for SK yesterday was 813 new cases and 1 death.


Think positively, you are not even in the age group of high mortality..

Well he chunters on like a fucking old woman he might as well be classified as one.

[HermantheGerman]

When will the REAL numbers from Russia come out? Two infections is a joke.

Trump and Putin have soooo much in common.

Trump talks down the virus and Putin makes it non-existent.

Maybe they should take some advice from Kim Jong Un.

[HermantheGerman]

Well he chunters on like a fucking old woman he might as well be classified as one.

When will they kick you out of Thailand ?

[baldrick]

winning bigly

[prawnograph]

Corona cruises ...


Diamond Princess owner won't offer refunds for cruise cancellations

February 29, 2020
Australians booked on upcoming ocean cruises, including aboard the virus-stricken Diamond Princess, have been told they won’t receive refunds if they cancel their trips because of health concerns.

That’s forcing many to make difficult decisions about their health. Go, and they risk contracting the virus. Cancel, and they are guaranteed to lose their money.

The cruise industry has come under intense pressure globally after the giant Diamond Princess vessel became synonymous with the spread of the coronavirus. Six people died and more than 800 people fell sick on Diamond Princess and it spent two weeks quarantined off Yokohama.

The company that owns the ship Carnival plans to hold customers to the contracts – which generally say only partial refunds are available for cancellations made six months before a trip leaves.

A spokesman for Carnival Australia, the Australian wing of the company that owns the Diamond Princess, said the risk of catching coronavirus aboard is low.

In the wake of the disaster, the share price for Carnival Corporation – Princess Cruises’ parent company – has dropped from US$51 to $31. Between Carnival, Royal Caribbean, and Norwegian Cruise Lines, the entire industry has seen billions wiped from its share value.

A spokesman for Carnival Australia, Princess Cruises’ parent company, told The Age they considered the risk of catching the virus on board their vessels to be low.

"On that basis... normal terms and conditions apply in relation to cancellations," the spokesman said.

[PlanK]

[PlanK]

[harrybarracuda]

The issue isn't that the mortality rate is better or worse than flu, or that it's killed less people than fucking car accidents.

It's that it spreads more quickly, because it appears that it is able to survive longer outside the body. This could lead to medical services being overwhelmed, supply chains collapsing and so on.

[HermantheGerman]

Corona cruises ...


Diamond Princess owner won't offer refunds for cruise cancellations

Moby Dick told me: "Fuck'em, hope they all go bankrupt". The biggest polluter of my environment don't deserve any sympathy.

[HermantheGerman]

The issue isn't that the mortality rate is better or worse than flu, or that it's killed less people than fucking car accidents.

It's that it spreads more quickly, because it appears that it is able to survive longer outside the body. This could lead to medical services being overwhelmed, supply chains collapsing and so on.

Are you telling me that there are folks out there who still didn't comprehend that ?

I guess then there is another virus out there called the "Intellectual disability-2019".