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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    From that article: 'Since the pandemic started in early 2020, there have been 3,628,347 Covid-19 cases, ...'

    Meanwhile the UK, with a similar population, has recorded over 21 million cases.

    This thing has a long way to go in Thailand still.
    You're forgetting the fact that the UK saturated the place with tests and recorded them all.

    Thailand has only recently even started counting ATK's.

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    About one in every 13 people in the UK has coronavirus, according to latest estimates from the Office for National Statistics (ONS).


    That is some 4.9 million people, up from 4.3 million people the week before.


    ONS officials say that is the highest number seen since its survey began at the end of April 2020.


    The surge in infections is being driven partly by the contagious Omicron BA.2 sub-variant and people mixing more.


    The figures for the week ending 26 March are thought to give the most accurate reflection of what's happening with the virus in the community.


    The ONS survey tests thousands of people randomly in households across the UK - whether or not they have symptoms.


    Kara Steel, senior statistician for the Covid-19 infection survey, said: "Infection levels remain high, with the highest levels recorded in our survey seen in England and Wales and notable increases among older age groups."


    The latest data comes on the day that most people in England will have to start paying for Covid-19 tests.


    The government's "living with Covid" plan means free testing will only continue for certain groups - including some people with weakened immune systems, people admitted to hospital and health and care staff.


    In general people who test positive for Covid are now advised to try to stay at home for five days and avoid contact with others.


    For most children and young people under 18, three days is enough, says the latest official advice.




    Estimated infection rates across the nations showed:



    • One in 13 people in England had coronavirus - about 7.6% of the population, up from 6.4% the week before
    • One in 14 people in Wales - or 7% of the population - up from 6.4% the previous week
    • One in 12 people in Scotland - or 8.6% , down from 9% the week before
    • One in 15 people in Northern Ireland - or 6.7% of the population, down from 5.9% the week before




    In England and Wales infections continued to rise, while overall trends in Scotland and Northern Ireland were uncertain.


    The number of people in Covid beds in hospitals has returned to January 2022 levels, data from NHS England suggests.


    But there is a key difference - in January about 56% of people in Covid beds in hospitals were being treated mainly for their Covid, but as of Tuesday (29 March) that figure is down to about 44%.


    And the number of people being treated for very severe Covid infections and needing intensive care remain low - as vaccinations continue to protect people from severe disease.
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    High vaccination rates.
    High rates of natural infection.
    Lower effect from infection.
    B1and B2 are more infectious.

    Someone in government has decided that the economy can no longer afford to sustain the measures required, and the cost of those measures. The elderly and immunocompromised will be allowed to die off, saving on pensions and benefits.
    The virus will be allowed to run wild, killing the vulnerable, and protecting the rest with natural immunity, as well as high vaccination rates.

    It has already happened in places like S Africa, and other poor nations who lack the health infrastructure to fight the virus., so a combination of vaccines and natural immunity is doing the job for them.

    Covid will still find a way to mutate, infect and kill people.

    An old friend of mine died of Covid in Thailand recently. (A Brit). Thai regulations assume automatic responsibility for his private cremation. Family have no choice in this, other than the disposal of his (sterile) ashes. Not sure if this is a provincial, or national edict? Seems quite logical for a Thai decision.

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    A classic example illustrating why laymen should only determine outcomes in matters other than non-lethal.

    COVID's trajectory is describing a development arc in which it is seemingly evolving into a virus whereby infection does not confer immunity although reinfection may b less threatening except to those who are immune compromised. Immunity as a factor in assessing healthcare needs is therefore not a determinant. Where it does exist then it is more than likely to b conferred by genetics but its presence within the wider population is unknown.

    Vaccination is the key but if a reservoir of populations world-wide is excluded from that prophylaxis then the scope for viral development is obviously greatly increased with the possible prospect of a super strain evolving threatening all age groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    A classic example illustrating why laymen should only determine outcomes in matters other than non-lethal.
    Best you shut up then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    A classic example illustrating why laymen should only determine outcomes in matters other than non-lethal.

    COVID's trajectory is describing a development arc in which it is seemingly evolving into a virus whereby infection does not confer immunity although reinfection may b less threatening except to those who are immune compromised. Immunity as a factor in assessing healthcare needs is therefore not a determinant. Where it does exist then it is more than likely to b conferred by genetics but its presence within the wider population is unknown.

    Vaccination is the key but if a reservoir of populations world-wide is excluded from that prophylaxis then the scope for viral development is obviously greatly increased with the possible prospect of a super strain evolving threatening all age groups.
    Why have you suddenly started writing like a teenage girl texting?

    The word is "be", you poorly educated slubberdegullion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    About one in every 13 people in the UK has coronavirus, according to latest estimates from the Office for National Statistics (ONS).
    And yet the daily death rate is less than 200.

    It really is now almost comparable to influenza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    A classic example illustrating why laymen should only determine outcomes in matters other than non-lethal.

    COVID's trajectory is describing a development arc in which it is seemingly evolving into a virus whereby infection does not confer immunity although reinfection may b less threatening except to those who are immune compromised. Immunity as a factor in assessing healthcare needs is therefore not a determinant. Where it does exist then it is more than likely to b conferred by genetics but its presence within the wider population is unknown.

    Vaccination is the key but if a reservoir of populations world-wide is excluded from that prophylaxis then the scope for viral development is obviously greatly increased with the possible prospect of a super strain evolving threatening all age groups.
    It’s an opinion you utter buffoon. My post makes that perfectly clear. In no way is it a determination of any outcome you blistering arrogant fool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Why have you suddenly started writing like a teenage girl texting?

    The word is "be", you poorly educated slubberdegullion.
    The 'e' tile on my keyboard is broken. Its use can only b employed by predictive workarounds and b- is not worth the fucking effort.

    I am still debating which Mac I should buy to replace the current laptop, a MacBook Air now approaching its 8th year.

    I'm now considering a MacBook Pro 13.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    The 'e' tile on my keyboard is broken. Its use can only b employed by predictive workarounds and b- is not worth the fucking effort.

    I am still debating which Mac I should buy to replace the current laptop, a MacBook Air now approaching its 8th year.

    I'm now considering a MacBook Pro 13.
    Why am I not surprised you are a wanky Mactard poser?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post

    The government's "living with Covid" plan means free testing will only continue for certain groups - including some people with weakened immune systems, people admitted to hospital and health and care staff.


    In general people who test positive for Covid are now advised to try to stay at home for five days and avoid contact with others..
    "In general"

    I know someone who was supposed to go to Spain for the weekend, but his wife tested positive, so they've gone somewhere in the UK instead for a few days. Unless people are bedridden, I can't imagine too many are actually isolating after positive tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    , I can't imagine too many are actually isolating after positive tests.
    People are not even bothering testing anymore.

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    My Mrs called her insurance when she tested positive. They basically said they had gone bust, but can give a refund, so first she must get an RT-PCR (refundable). So she left the house to get that from a clinic. Then the insurance company would only support a transfer to a certain bank, so she goes out again to open a new bank account at said bank. Then she had to go out and pick up the free government rice for her mum before she missed the deadline.

    I ask, what is the point of all these measures if you need to go outside to deal with having covid?

    And here's the logic...

    "No, if you don't want covid you have to stay at home. Everybody outside already has covid"
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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    "In general"

    I know someone who was supposed to go to Spain for the weekend, but his wife tested positive, so they've gone somewhere in the UK instead for a few days. Unless people are bedridden, I can't imagine too many are actually isolating after positive tests.
    I know someone who checked in for Test & Go in BKK and slipped out of the hotel after six hours when they started bullshitting him about when his four hour test result would arrive.

    Got on a plane to CM and got his negative result about 9 hours after the swab.

    Has not been arrested as yet.
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    It's a fooking joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
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    China is doing so well. It’s a wonder they don’t proclaim it as such??? ������

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    China is doing so well. It’s a wonder they don’t proclaim it as such??? ������
    Well of course you're going to lock down a city of 26 million people when you don't have a Covid problem.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Well of course you're going to lock down a city of 26 million people when you don't have a Covid problem.

    Corona in China is a blessing, it keeps them busy and hopefully they won't do anything stupid

    Shanghai has extended the lockdown indefinitely. In order to be able to continue producing, the employees of German companies spend the night in the factories. Some families fight for their drinking water.
    Rumors of an evacuation of expatriates living there first surfaced in Shanghai on Tuesday, after expats complained on social media that they were running out of drinking water during the lockdown. The French consulate had already emailed its citizens in the city to find out whether they wanted to leave the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Corona in China is a blessing, it keeps them busy and hopefully they won't do anything stupid
    Thankfully it also keeps them in chinkystan.

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    China reports record 20,472 new Covid cases in a day amid lockdowns


    The current outbreak has already surpassed number of infections found in the early days of the pandemic, before testing was easily available, and encompasses a much broader swath of the nation.

    China reported 20,472 new daily Covid cases for Tuesday, as widespread lockdowns and mass testing in Shanghai and other parts of the country turn up a rising number of infections.

    The current outbreak has already surpassed the number of infections found in the early days of the pandemic, before testing was easily available, and encompasses a much broader swath of the nation. While President Xi Jinping is committed to getting the conflagration under control, his request to do so with limited economic consequences is getting harder to implement.


    Shanghai remains the hotspot for the current flareup, despite a sweeping lockdown of its 25 million people. Originally intended to be carried out in two parts, the rising number of infections led to expanding the restrictions in the eastern portion of the city that were initially expected to be lifted last week.


    There were 311 local infections and 16,766 asymptomatic cases in Shanghai, and another 973 infections and 1,798 asymptomatic cases in Jilin, a northeastern province that has been locked down since mid-March.

    China reports record 20,472 new Covid cases in a day amid lockdowns | World News - Hindustan Times

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    Paying the price for depending on their own shitty vaccines. Should have knocked off Pfizer/Moderna earlier.

    Stupid chinkies.

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    Maximum of 50,000 COVID-19 daily infections predicted after Songkran

    The Thai Ministry of Public Health has predicted that there will be a maximum average of 50,000 COVID-19 cases a day after the Songkran holidays next week, about 3,000 new cases of lung inflammation and 150 daily fatalities, if public cooperation in complying with safety measures remains at the present level.


    The scenario, as painted by the Public Health Ministry, is that, by April 19th, the number of new infections will surge to 50,000 a day and, in early May, the number of lung inflammation cases will be around 3,000 a day, with about 900 cases requiring ventilators, and the death toll will be around 150 per day


    In a worst case scenario, in which restrictions are further eased, public cooperation is lacking and/or inoculation is lower than 200,000 doses per day, cases of lung inflammation could double to 6,000 a day, with 1,700 cases needing ventilators and the daily fatalities estimated at 250.


    Current daily infections are hovering at just over 20,000 (excluding positive antigen tests) and the deaths have been fewer than 100 a day for weeks.


    Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul, meanwhile, said that his ministry will propose to the Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) tomorrow (Friday) that it does away the RT-PCR tests upon arrival for all international visitors and use rapid antigen tests instead, as Thailand is moving toward reclassifying COVID-19 as an endemic disease.


    He also indicated that, if the situation during the Songkran holidays is kept under control, even though infections may surge, more restrictions could be eased.


    The CCSA will consider final touches for all the preparations and measures to be implemented during the long holidays, ahead of a mass exodus from Bangkok and other cities next week. Meanwhile, the Health Ministry has been urging people to get booster jabs and the unvaccinated to get inoculated before Songkran.

    Maximum of 50,000 COVID-19 daily infections predicted after Songkran | Thai PBS World : The latest Thai news in English, News Headlines, World News and News Broadcasts in both Thai and English. We bring Thailand to the world

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    Measures for long Songkran holidays next week to be decided on Friday

    Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha will chair a meeting of the Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) tomorrow (Friday) to assess the COVID-19 situation and to put final touches to preparations and measures to cope with the spread of the Omicron variant, ahead of the mass exodus from Bangkok and other cities during the Songkran holidays next week.


    Government Spokesman Thanakorn Wangboonkongchana said today that the meeting will consider all safety measures adopted by the CCSA and implementation of the measures by all officials.


    He said the government is confident that it will be able to control the situation if members of the public are cooperative in complying with the safety measures, even though COVID-19 infections may surge after the holidays.


    He also repeated the government’s call for all Songkran travellers to make sure that they are free of and safe from the virus before travelling, to prevent passing the virus on to their elders.


    The National Health Security Office is operating the 3,000-line 1330 hotline centre, to provide counselling to COVID-19 patients and to arrange for treatment in hospitals or isolation facilities.


    In mid-March, the CCSA announced that some celebrations of the festivities, including traditional processions, will be allowed. However, the world-famous practice of water splashing and parties will remain prohibited for another year.


    According to the COVID-19 Information Centre today (Thursday), 26,081 new infections were recorded in the past 24 hours, including 81 cases among international arrivals and the rest locally-acquired. The death toll today stands at 91.


    There are also 24,728 cases, diagnosed by rapid antigen tests and awaiting RT-PCR confirmations, in the past 24 hours, bringing the total of confirmed and suspected infections to 50,809.

    Measures for long Songkran holidays next week to be decided on Friday | Thai PBS World : The latest Thai news in English, News Headlines, World News and News Broadcasts in both Thai and English. We bring Thailand to the world

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    Christ what a dopey c u n t this bloke is.

    Until they scrap the risk of testing positive and being quarantined for the first ten days of your holiday, a huge amount of people will not come.

    The government will on Friday consider scrapping mandatory RT-PCR tests for foreign visitors arriving in the country as it further eases entry rules to attract tourists.
    Anutin Charnvirakul, deputy prime minister and public health minister, on Thursday said the Department of Disease Control (DDC) will submit a proposal to end RT-PCR tests during a Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) meeting on Friday.
    "If approved [by the CCSA], foreign travellers would only need to take antigen tests upon arrival," Mr Anutin said.

    https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2291842/rt-pcr-tests-may-be-axed

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